We Should Not Be Attacking Iran

Freedom is on the March!

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Monad Portal said:
but all of this being said, it still appears the Iranian people are happy about their oppressors being bitchsmacked.

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Sure, but Trump assured us he would never do this. We aren't supposed to be starting new wars, or existing to serve the Iranian people, the Somali people, the Israeli people, the European Union, etc... We're supposed to be putting America first.
 
@IBDaMann What are your thoughts specifically on Israel (& the USA) finally deciding to attack the Ayatollah of Iran himself rather than continuing to muck around with his proxies? I could be mistaken, but in the aftermath of the "October 7th attack against Israel", I thought that this was the sort of action that you suggested Israel SHOULD be taking. IOW, I'm curious if it is strictly the USA's involvement in this recent action that you are opposed to.

(I'm aware that you're opposed to the USA taking orders from Israel (or any other nation for that matter), as well as being opposed to genocide of any kind).
 
The sense on my well curated grapevine is that this is desperate abusive moronic to launch, that the conduct indicates gross incompetence....and that we will almost certainly lose yet another war.

But it is extremely early, the opinion might change.
 
You martyr the leader of the religion who had for about two decade prevented the building of nuclear weapons, and you bomb the Assembly of Experts building?

This is Sadism, this is not warfighting, this is idiocy and incompetence.
 
The double taps that the Imperial Empire does is something to notice.....bomb, wait a few minutes for rescuers to show up and then bomb again.....this is pure Evil........ humans rarely get more shit quality than this.

This is what most of you refuse to condemn......this poor behaviour is on your permanent record.

Not noticing is not an excuse, it is your duty to know what is going on.

FUCK YOU!
 
IBDaMann said:
Sure, but Trump assured us he would never do this. We aren't supposed to be starting new wars, or existing to serve the Iranian people, the Somali people, the Israeli people, the European Union, etc... We're supposed to be putting America first.
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looks like Iranians want freedom.

tariffs are more important than Iran anyway.
 

David Pyne
@AmericaFirstCon


As his hopes for a quick war have been dashed by Iran's refusal to stop fighting after the US foolishly turned their supreme political and religious leader into a martyr, Trump is reportedly considering sending in US Special Forces into Iran along with Kurdish militia forces. Trump is now planning to invade a country that is nearly four times larger than Iraq with twice as many people. The result will likely be a war that could last a year or more with several thousand US military servicemen coming home in body bags just in time for the November mid-term elections fueling Democrat calls for his third impeachment. I'm guessing that Trump didn't fully think through the likely outcomes of his Iran forever war folly before he made the rash decision to start the biggest regional war in the Middle East in thirty-five years.
 
Or maybe Trump did not have the juice to say no...word is that he is owned by the Rothchild's.... they saved his empire and now he works for them.
 
That would make a great sig by the way....it is inspired by Putin calling us vampires.

I am sure that he believes this even more now after our shameful behaviour in Iran.
 
gfm7175 said:
@IBDaMann What are your thoughts specifically on Israel (& the USA) finally deciding to attack the Ayatollah of Iran himself rather than continuing to muck around with his proxies?
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You'll recall that Trump campaigned on never doing this. America first, no new wars, Iran was/is not a threat to the US. There is absolutely no reason to attack Iran ... unless Israel so orders the US to attack Iran, and then, of course, we must OBEY.

If you'll recall, during the SOTU, Trump invited everyone to stand for the ideal that the US government's priority is to protect American citizens, not liberate Iranian citizens ... I mean, not illegal aliens.

I am very much against the idea of the US being told by Israel who we are to attack, who we are to bully, who we are to intimidate, etc. I get it, the Iranian citizens are elated at being liberated, and I'm happy for them, but OBEYING Israel's order to attack Iran was not for us to do.

Let's talk about the absurd notion of Israel screaming to the US "Hurry, bomb the shit out of Iran NOW before they get a NUKE!" Iran had no nuclear weapons, and they had no launch vehicles to carry any even if they had. So we bombed Iran several times over weapons that they did not have that had no launch vehicles. We knew exactly where to bomb, not because we had amazing intelligence, but because Iran had registered its nuclear program with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and opened up its program for international inspection. They weren't hiding anything because they had nothing to hide.

Meanwhile, Israel has hundreds of illicit nuclear weapons, and the IDF is the world's most active terrorist organization. Israel has refused to register their nuclear weapons/program with the IAEA and will not allow inspections. As it stands, if the US is to be consistent, rather than predatory on Isreael's behalf, the US now needs to bomb the shit out of Israel, screaming "Israel cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons."

gfm7175 said:
I could be mistaken, but in the aftermath of the "October 7th attack against Israel", I thought that this was the sort of action that you suggested Israel SHOULD be taking.
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Yes. Exactly. Israel should have done this and the US should not have. Let me know if you'd like me to clarify further.

gfm7175 said:
IOW, I'm curious if it is strictly the USA's involvement in this recent action that you are opposed to.
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Yes. Exactly. US involvement in the bombing of Iran is bad, but my main concern is the US being controlled by Israel. No country should be able to control the US into attacking some country that isn't a threat to the US.

gfm7175 said:
(I'm aware that you're opposed to the USA taking orders from Israel (or any other nation for that matter), as well as being opposed to genocide of any kind).
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This summary captures my sentiment. Trump made a big deal about how he wasn't going to be doing anything like this, and you and I shouldn't be paying for all Israelis to receive free healthcare and free college tuition. This entire situation with Israel is hosed.



... but don't worry, I'm still MAGA. I just oppose Israel controlling the US, that's all.
 
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