Would you say that Christianity has been inimical to human progress?

[Hume]

Bart Ehrman is probably the most widely acclaimed atheist religious scholar in America.

Right, I do not consider atheism or religion to be important.

 

[Hume]

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Therefore, he can and does openly state that the Christian influence on Western history is massive, and much of it was undeniably positive.

Most of Christianity has been negative. Even Medieval priests owned slaves.

 

[Into the Night]

Always inhibited it, from my study of history.

You never studied history, Hugo.

 

[Into the Night]

No one is a marxist. My god, you are stuck in 1950.

Karl Marx wasn't alive in 1950. Nevertheless, his philosophies still are practice today, mostly by Democrats.
See the writings of Karl Marx, Hugo.

 

[Into the Night]

Right, I do not consider atheism or religion to be important.

This is a lie. You consider your own religions to be important...each and every one of them.

 

[Into the Night]

Most of Christianity has been negative. Even Medieval priests owned slaves.

So? Presentism fallacy.

 

[Cypress]

Christianity has been negative. Even Medieval priests owned slaves.

That was over 1,000 years ago.
Slavery existed all over; in Europe, Africa, Americas, Asia back then.
You can't use that a reason to say Christianity was a uniquely evil and oppressive force in the world.

Slavery was largely replaced in the European Middle Ages by serfdom and feudalism. In part because the church discouraged the enslavement of Christians and encouraged the liberation of slaves.

Slavery did continue to exist at large scale in Byzantine and Islamic-controlled areas of the Mediterranean.

 

[Monad Portal]

Most of Christianity has been negative. Even Medieval priests owned slaves.

all the religions had slaves.

 

[Monad Portal]

That was over 1,000 years ago.
Slavery existed all over; in Europe, Africa, Americas, Asia back then.
You can't use that a reason to say Christianity was a uniquely evil and oppressive force in the world.

Slavery was largely replaced in the European Middle Ages by serfdom and feudalism. In part because the church discouraged the enslavement of Christians and encouraged the liberation of slaves.

Slavery did continue to exist at large scale in Byzantine and Islamic-controlled areas of the Mediterranean.

serfdom comes from the Diocletian reforms of the Roman empire which bonded chosen families to the land as the tax collecting forces, and with the monetization from the yield of the land going to the gentry for taxation purposes.

imagine if you weren't a bullshitter.

 

[Into the Night]

That was over 1,000 years ago.
Slavery existed all over; in Europe, Africa, Americas, Asia back then.

Slavery still exists, Cyborg. Even in the United States (illegally).

You can't use that a reason to say Christianity was a uniquely evil and oppressive force in the world.

It obviously isn't. It was instrumental in ending legal slavery.

Slavery was largely replaced in the European Middle Ages by serfdom and feudalism.

Slavery is not serfdom. Slavery is not feudalism. Go learn English, Cyborg.

In part because the church discouraged the enslavement of Christians and encouraged the liberation of slaves.

Slavery did continue to exist at large scale in Byzantine and Islamic-controlled areas of the Mediterranean.

Slavery still exists today, Cyborg.

 

[Monad Portal]

No one is a marxist. My god, you are stuck in 1950.

it's all cultural Marxism now.

the shit that rots a society from the inside out.

critical theory
feminism

etc.

the Frankfurt school of satanic abomination.

 

[IBDaMann]

Nope. the biggest threats are satan and his nihilism.

Nope, you assured me that the biggest threat was governmen purchased magenta toner from Staples, then the biggest threat was tools, and now the biggest threat is nihilism. Let's just go with the magenta toner.

 

[Monad Portal]

Nope, you assured me that the biggest threat was governmen purchased magenta toner from Staples, then the biggest threat was tools, and now the biggest threat is nihilism. Let's just go with the magenta toner.

both are bad.

your hairsplitting stupidity proves that you are stupid.

 

[Hume]

it's all cultural Marxism now.

the shit that rots a society from the inside out.

critical theory
feminism

etc.

the Frankfurt school of satanic abomination.

blah blah blah

 

[Hume]

all the religions had slaves.

So?

 

[Hume]

That was over 1,000 years ago.
Slavery existed all over; in Europe, Africa, Americas, Asia back then.
You can't use that a reason to say Christianity was a uniquely evil and oppressive force in the world.

Never said "uniquely evil."

 

[Into the Night]

So?

So he nullified your attack on Christianity using a presentism fallacy, Hugo.

 

[Monad Portal]

So?

so never say uniquely evil.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

Organized Religion and theology are very different things!
Theology is based on absolutely truths.
Organized Religion is based on traditions and narrow interpretations of Scripture with little or no depth.

 

[Monad Portal]

Organized Religion and theology are very different things!
Theology is based on absolutely truths.
Organized Religion is based on traditions and narrow interpretations of Scripture with little or no depth.

seems like theology is based on a lot of word games, bullshit, and self-puffery.