Is Assange being framed?

Is Assange being framed?


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and the Swedes wanted him arrested on behalf of the Yanks who KILL people and who have threatened to kill him. And for THAT reason you will NEVER get him.
The word arrest was used simply because there is no other word suitable in the police vocabulary. What Tom says is 100% correct. There was no hunt, no guns, no threats. Bear in mind also that the Swedish authorities had already dropped the case against him until told by the Yanks to revive it.

any evidence to support your assertion?
 
"That sounds like good news to me," U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said..."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...l/7328803.html

WikiLeaks publishes list of worldwide infrastructure 'critical' to security of U.S.

A list drawn up by U.S. officials of companies and installations around the world regarded as "critical" to the security of the United States has been published online by controversial website WikiLeaks.

The list includes factories, ports, fuel companies, drug manufacturers, undersea cables, pipelines, communication hubs and a host of other "key resources."

A Danish insulin plant, a company making anti-snake venom in Australia and a Cobalt mine in the Democratic Republic of Congo are also included.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40526224/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security/

geeee...i can't imagine why the sec def would think that....
 
Are you suggesting that it is OK to frame a man for "rape" because you don't like something (unrelated) he did?

are you suggesting the sec def is saying that is good? are you suggesting you have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that he is being framed?

amazing how some of you jump to defend those you agree with and jump to condemn those you don't.....mojo....you're jumping to massive conclusions
 
are you suggesting the sec def is saying that is good? are you suggesting you have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that he is being framed?

amazing how some of you jump to defend those you agree with and jump to condemn those you don't.....mojo....you're jumping to massive conclusions

You're right. My suspicions are unfounded, yet I question the probity of a Cabinet officer publicly gloating over the arrest of a suspect on an unrelated matter...and keep in mind that as far as I can tell, Assange has not been charged, simply jailed.
 
You're right. My suspicions are unfounded, yet I question the probity of a Cabinet officer publicly gloating over the arrest of a suspect on an unrelated matter...and keep in mind that as far as I can tell, Assange has not been charged, simply jailed.

why haven't you addressed the post above where wiki gave information that is very likely to harm america?

that said....the sec def is charged with our defense...perhaps in his mind he believes if he is jail for an unrelated matter, that is a good thing, as he will be unable to continue his releases...which so far is not true...but, its a start

imagine you are the neighborhood watch and a known drug dealer harming your neighborhood gets arrested for some unrelated charge...if he is off the streets and are you telling me you would not say that is a good thing?
 
why haven't you addressed the post above where wiki gave information that is very likely to harm america?

that said....the sec def is charged with our defense...perhaps in his mind he believes if he is jail for an unrelated matter, that is a good thing, as he will be unable to continue his releases...which so far is not true...but, its a start

imagine you are the neighborhood watch and a known drug dealer harming your neighborhood gets arrested for some unrelated charge...if is off the streets and are you telling me you would not say that is a good thing?

You make some good points.

I don't think the two situations are comparable.

I hope I would have the honesty to speak up if I thought the "drug dealer" was framed by the police.

If Assange is to be punished, let it be aboveboard, and let him have a fair hearing.

What's being done to him looks like a kangaroo court. The kind of thing the Communist Chinese do to dissidents. We're supposed to be better than that.

Secretary Gates' statement strikes me as unseemly.
 
any evidence to support your assertion?

which particular assertion are you referring to?
What do you mean by 'evidence'?

did you forget what you typed?

and the Swedes wanted him arrested on behalf of the Yanks who KILL people and who have threatened to kill him. And for THAT reason you will NEVER get him.
The word arrest was used simply because there is no other word suitable in the police vocabulary. What Tom says is 100% correct. There was no hunt, no guns, no threats. Bear in mind also that the Swedish authorities had already dropped the case against him until told by the Yanks to revive it.

apparently i need to emphasize your own claims as you have no idea what a claim is....

care to try again or do you need rana to mindlessly defend your drivel?
 
did you forget what you typed?



apparently i need to emphasize your own claims as you have no idea what a claim is....

care to try again or do you need rana to mindlessly defend your drivel?
Ahahahaha, Yurt gets red assed so easily! How do you ever stand up in court?
 
did you forget what you typed?



apparently i need to emphasize your own claims as you have no idea what a claim is....

care to try again or do you need rana to mindlessly defend your drivel?

The evidence, you silly little yank, is staring you in the face.

The British government will NEVER supply an arrested person to any country that still practices the death penalty. I am sure you, as a lawyer (LOL) are well aware of that.

Sweden dropped the case - who do you think 'helped' them change their minds?
However that is evidence and as you must surely know evidence is not proof although when verifiable facts are unavailable a jury might arrive at a verdict based upon evidence and evidence can help substantiate truth.

The claims are not mine, they are widely held claims in all parts of the world save the few streets that you occupy.

Oh, and no, I did not forget what I typed, I am using, for the first time an American computer. I do not understand computers since I do have something of a life and have no idea why it posted twice.

I do hope that clears a couple of things up.
 
Australia blames U.S.over WikiLeaks, founder held in UK

(Reuters) - Australia blamed the United States on Wednesday for the release by WikiLeaks of U.S. diplomatic cables after a British court ordered the detention of the group's founder over allegations of sex crimes in Sweden.

WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange, a 39-year-old Australian, handed himself in to British police on Tuesday after Sweden had issued a European Arrest Warrant for him. Assange, who denies the allegations, will remain behind bars until a hearing on December 14.

He has spent some time in Sweden and was accused this year of sexual misconduct by two female Swedish WikiLeaks volunteers. A Swedish prosecutor wants to question him about the accusation.

WikiLeaks, which has provoked fury in Washington with its publications, vowed it would continue making public details of the 250,000 secret U.S. documents it had obtained.

Australian Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd said the people who originally leaked the documents, not Assange, were legally liable and the leaks raised questions over the "adequacy" of U.S. security.

"Mr Assange is not himself responsible for the unauthorised release of 250,000 documents from the U.S. diplomatic communications network," Rudd told Reuters in an interview.

"The Americans are responsible for that," said Rudd, who had been described in one leaked U.S. cable as a "control freak."

The original source of the leak is not known, though a U.S. army private who worked as an intelligence analyst in Iraq, Bradley Manning, has been charged by military authorities with unauthorised downloading of more than 150,000 State Department cables.

U.S. officials have declined to say whether those cables are the same ones now being released by WikiLeaks.

U.S. Defence Secretary Robert Gates welcomed news of Assange's arrest.

"I hadn't heard that but it sounds like good news to me," Gates told reporters on Tuesday during a trip to Afghanistan.

Assange defended his Internet publishing site in a newspaper commentary on Wednesday, saying it was crucial to spreading democracy and likening himself to global media baron Rupert Murdoch in the quest to publish the truth.

At the Tuesday court hearing in London, Senior District Judge Howard Riddle said: "There are substantial grounds to believe he could abscond if granted bail."

He said the allegations were serious, and that Assange had comparatively weak community ties in Britain.

His British lawyer, Mark Stephens, told reporters a renewed bail application would be made, and that his client was "fine."

Stephens said many people believed the prosecution was politically motivated, and that he would be "released and vindicated."

But a Swedish prosecutor was cited in newspaper Aftonbladet as saying the case was a personal matter and was not connected with his WikiLeaks work.

Assange, dressed in a navy suit and wearing an open-neck white shirt, initially gave his address in court as a P.O. Box in Australia. Pressed for a more precise address, he gave a street in Victoria, Australia.

Australian journalist John Pilger, British film director Ken Loach and Jemima Khan, former wife of Pakistani cricketer and politician Imran Khan, all offered to put up sureties to persuade the court Assange would not abscond.

The U.S. government and others across the world have argued the publication of the cables is irresponsible and could put their national security at risk.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKL3E6N80HH20101208?pageNumber=1
 
I hope Assange bites a bullet.

So you want him killed?

He has some supporters, it seems.

"Each of the wikileaks revelations has been carefully weighed to ensure there is a public interest in disclosing it. Of the more than 250,000 documents they hold, they have released fewer than 1000 – and each of those has had the names of informants, or any information that could place anyone at risk, removed. The information they have released covers areas where our governments are defying the will of their own citizens, and hiding the proof from them.

Here’s some examples. The Obama administration has been denying that it has expanded the current “war” to yet another country, Yemen. Now we know that is a lie. Ali Abdulah Saleh, the Yemeni dictator, brags in these cables to a US diplomat: “We’ll continue to say the bombs are ours, not yours.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...scure-what-wikileaks-has-told-us-2154109.html
 
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