The Curse of Poverty

evince said:
This guy imagines black faces in those situations so he has no respect or concern for those eight year olds.
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And out comes the race card.

How is it you fucking brain dead useless piece of shit assholes cannot discuss ANYTHING without bringing RACE into it? YOU are the fucking racist, you slimy piece of subhuman shit. Skin color matters to you - we poor minorities just cannot get along without you benevolent white folk out there to make government help us out.

FUCK YOU!!!
You sit in your easy chair in your nice suburban home and get all emo over your IMAGINATION what it is like to grow up in poverty. YOU HAVEN'T A CLUE you fucking twat.
 
apple0154 said:
Many years ago, when I was collecting unemployment insurance (UI), I asked the counselor if I could take courses sponsored by the government. These were upgrade courses and offered free. Having worked on building mechanical systems new products were being developed and I wanted to stay on top of things such as automatic and remote controlled valves, etc.

Anyway, I was denied so I asked why. It was explained to me that those courses were for welfare recipients only because businesses contributed to UI and business owners were not going to pay for someone's education. Rather than obtain more knowledge and increase my chances of getting a job they'd rather pay me to sit at home. They, the business owners who contributed to UI, didn't want me to get "something for nothing". They didn't want me to benefit.

Benefit. That is the big reason behind those rules you mentioned. It's not about the government wanting people to be dependent on them. It's about not wanting someone to benefit. Assistance is begrudgingly given which negates the goal of helping.

The idea or purpose is to inspire people, to motivate them, to make them feel better about themselves. Instead, it becomes a battle. Those who are supposedly there to help are there to find ways not to help by placing obstacles and hoops for people to jump through.

One learns a lot a bit from being a slumlord.

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Yes, U/I rules are another area wherein the system is designed to fuck with the people dependent. But you miss a connection there. You say that the rules are built so a person cannot benefit. From the context, I am going on the belief that you mean they have an extremely difficult time bettering themselves while in the assistance system. And this is true. By why is that? Companies my CONTRIBUTE to the U/I insurance system, but it is the GOVERNMENT that makes the rules, and the rules are build to make it hard to better oneself so they can get out of the system. Considering each and every government assistance system out there is build along these same rules and limitations, can you believe the design of NOT allowing people to better themselves is ACCIDENTAL?

The connection is that by making it difficult to better oneself while on assistance is EXACTLY what makes it a trap, and INCREASES dependency on government, thus increasing the IMPORTANCE (read POWER) of government. Follow that by the liberal shrill cries of "Vote for us or they'll cut you off and let you starve", and you get the reason it is designed as a trap. It's all about power. That what government types are about.
 
evince said:
This guy imagines black faces in those situations so he has no respect or concern for those eight year olds.
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Desh the term ignorance does not even do you justice. Good Luck IS a minority. He was a poor minority who seemingly made it to middle class and you seem like you resent and hate him for it.

Learn how to have a rational conversation with someone Desh. You may have differences but you also may have areas of agreement. Do that instead of screaming and cussing and putting every down who doesn't think 100% like you do.
 
YEah. like slavery wasn't wrong either. Look at frederick douglass, or WEB dubwahz. If they can make it, the rest of them slaves were just whiners.
 
Good Luck said:
Yes, U/I rules are another area wherein the system is designed to fuck with the people dependent. But you miss a connection there. You say that the rules are built so a person cannot benefit. From the context, I am going on the belief that you mean they have an extremely difficult time bettering themselves while in the assistance system. And this is true. By why is that? Companies my CONTRIBUTE to the U/I insurance system, but it is the GOVERNMENT that makes the rules, and the rules are build to make it hard to better oneself so they can get out of the system. Considering each and every government assistance system out there is build along these same rules and limitations, can you believe the design of NOT allowing people to better themselves is ACCIDENTAL?

The connection is that by making it difficult to better oneself while on assistance is EXACTLY what makes it a trap, and INCREASES dependency on government, thus increasing the IMPORTANCE (read POWER) of government. Follow that by the liberal shrill cries of "Vote for us or they'll cut you off and let you starve", and you get the reason it is designed as a trap. It's all about power. That what government types are about.
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That's not how I see it.

Regarding UI the government makes the rules but if businesses, being contributors to UI, don't like the rules they won't vote for that government again. The rules were to appease business, not to keep people in poverty.

Just look at the way people regard anyone on government assistance. Or better yet, look at how people feel about paying taxes towards helping them.

It's human nature to want to improve ones life, to have "extras". Either people have physical/mental/drug problems or they hit a stroke of bad luck. Normal, healthy people do not want to suffer and that's the life on government assistance.

The solution is not to stop the assistance. The solution is to find the problem and fix it.
 
apple0154 said:
That's not how I see it.

Regarding UI the government makes the rules but if businesses, being contributors to UI, don't like the rules they won't vote for that government again. The rules were to appease business, not to keep people in poverty.

Just look at the way people regard anyone on government assistance. Or better yet, look at how people feel about paying taxes towards helping them.

It's human nature to want to improve ones life, to have "extras". Either people have physical/mental/drug problems or they hit a stroke of bad luck. Normal, healthy people do not want to suffer and that's the life on government assistance.

The solution is not to stop the assistance. The solution is to find the problem and fix it.
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Yes. and the obvious problem is the globalization stupidity that says it a good idea to send as many jobs as possible overseas, but you don't want to fix that either.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Yes. and the obvious problem is the globalization stupidity that says it a good idea to send as many jobs as possible overseas, but you don't want to fix that either.
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AssHat, one of the goals is to bring the third world out of poverty so they need the jobs. You're missing the big picture.

One planet. One people.
 
apple0154 said:
AssHat, one of the goals is to bring the third world out of poverty so they need the jobs. You're missing the big picture.

One planet. One people.
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Who's goals? Our leadership is bound to do what's best for americans.

Sacrificing american lives on the altar of globalization delusions is treachery. Anyone espousing those goals should be run out of office on a rail, wouldn't you agree?
 
AssHatZombie said:
Who's goals? Our leadership is bound to do what's best for americans.

Sacrificing american lives on the altar of globalization delusions is treachery. Anyone espousing those goals should be run out of office on a rail, wouldn't you agree?
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No, I don't agree because we all have to help those countries. Other western nations are losing jobs, as well. We all have to contribute. We have to unite the world.
 
apple0154 said:
No, I don't agree because we all have to help those countries. Other western nations are losing jobs, as well. We all have to contribute. We have to unite the world.
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Who says we all have to help those countries?

We have to unite the world? That's the dream of all power freaks, are you insane?

I think we could help poorer nations by not incentivizing their enslaving fascist tyranny with american dollars, anyway.
 
Good Luck said:
And out comes the race card.

How is it you fucking brain dead useless piece of shit assholes cannot discuss ANYTHING without bringing RACE into it? YOU are the fucking racist, you slimy piece of subhuman shit. Skin color matters to you - we poor minorities just cannot get along without you benevolent white folk out there to make government help us out.

FUCK YOU!!!
You sit in your easy chair in your nice suburban home and get all emo over your IMAGINATION what it is like to grow up in poverty. YOU HAVEN'T A CLUE you fucking twat.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


Do you really think no white people grow up poor?

Yeah Im white and a woman.

Why is it you think I was not raised poor?

I am sixth out of eight kids of a construction worker, grew up all over socal moving every year.


You dont own your "I was the one who made it out" crown as king.

Why do you think I came out of my poverty (every one of my bros and sis's made it too) with such a respect for poor people and you see them as leaches to be scorned?


I think it may have something to do with that self hate element I mentioned earlier.

Find a little kindness in your heart for the kids now following the poverty path you had to live would you?
 
There will not be an official world government. That would be too shocking. The goal is for multinational corps and world banks to assume all real control, reducing national government to mere enforcers of multinational corporate policy. All nations are perverted from inside, still using their flags and memories but sculpting all real policy thinking according to internationalist fascism, until the very concept of "being an american" literally will come to mean, embracing those internationalist fascist ideals. "America as a state of mind" type bullshit. You neocon noahide globalists are already totally there.
 
And downside of it is the future of all americans traded away so the baby boomers could feel good about being globalist idiots who "love the world". They are traitors.
 
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