5 year old's family can't afford cancer treatment, so the kid draws to save his life

With this publicity the kids going to make enough money t pay the doctors then buy himself a car. Isn't charity great? :)
 
Damn Yankee said:
With this publicity the kids going to make enough money to pay the doctors then buy himself a car. Isn't charity great? :)
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Tell that to the other 45,000 people who didn't receive any charity.

(Excerpt) Reuters - Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis released on Thursday. (End)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/...58G6W520090917
 
Yurt said:
your point?
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My point is politicians dragged their butt until Obama came along and kicked their collective asses.

Of course there could have been a better health care package IF the politicians were serious about putting one together but how does one negotiate a package when one side doesn't want any package? The point is Obama and the Dems put together the best they had to work with.

The final point is the current package is a start. As time passes and different aspects of the plan come on line people will realize a government plan is the solution the same way the citizens in every other country with a government plan came to realize it was the best idea.

Have faith and patience. :)
 
bravo said:
You're do'in great pinhead.....how many have you sold so far....??

Christiefan might buy a couple.
Jarods good for a couple dozen, being a lawyer and all...
How about Zappa and Bgrn....they have big mouths, and probably big bleeding hearts too.....
Apple might be good for one...or maybe a half of one....
Crashk?....at least 5.....hes a pretty big pinhead and has a few bucks to donate.....
Rana's good for a small one....

let me know how you make out....
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Nah, I'd just donate the money and not have to get something in exchange.
 
Damn Yankee said:
No, idiot. We have something called medicaid in this country, and the poor can use that.
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"Having limited assets is one of the primary requirements for Medicaid eligibility, but poverty alone does not qualify a person to receive Medicaid benefits unless they also fall into one of the defined eligibility categories.[11] According to the CMS website, "Medicaid does not provide medical assistance for all poor persons. Even under the broadest provisions of the Federal statute (except for emergency services for certain persons), the Medicaid program does not provide health care services, even for very poor persons, unless they are in one of the designated eligibility groups."[11]
 
apple0154 said:
My point is politicians dragged their butt until Obama came along and kicked their collective asses.

Of course there could have been a better health care package IF the politicians were serious about putting one together but how does one negotiate a package when one side doesn't want any package? The point is Obama and the Dems put together the best they had to work with.

The final point is the current package is a start. As time passes and different aspects of the plan come on line people will realize a government plan is the solution the same way the citizens in every other country with a government plan came to realize it was the best idea.

Have faith and patience. :)
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Like mandating a purchase of a private service? Like forcing small businesses to go bankrupt for being unable to afford this new mandate? Like No price negotiation on prescription drugs?
 
apple0154 said:
What constitutes "immediate care"? Any and all treatments necessary or limited treatments and simply dealing with the symptoms?

And what about this? (Excerpt) Reuters - Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis released on Thursday.

"We're losing more Americans every day because of inaction ... than drunk driving and homicide combined," Dr. David Himmelstein, a co-author of the study and an associate professor of medicine at Harvard, said in an interview with Reuters.

Overall, researchers said American adults age 64 and younger who lack health insurance have a 40 percent higher risk of death than those who have coverage.(End)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/17/us-usa-healthcare-deaths-idUSTRE58G6W520090917
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we need to let them die.....they want to die......because they might suffer and be unloved......
 
apple0154 said:
My point is politicians dragged their butt until Obama came along and kicked their collective asses.

Of course there could have been a better health care package IF the politicians were serious about putting one together but how does one negotiate a package when one side doesn't want any package? The point is Obama and the Dems put together the best they had to work with.

The final point is the current package is a start. As time passes and different aspects of the plan come on line people will realize a government plan is the solution the same way the citizens in every other country with a government plan came to realize it was the best idea.

Have faith and patience. :)
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you're right about nothing being done until obama came along...however...he never tried the more simple route of simply expanding medicare and not forcing people to enter into a legally binding contract. obama went on and on about cleaning up medicare, big words....but he spent all his breath on his "new" government agency that is seriously flawed and likely unconstitutional in some aspects. instead of creating an entirely new and separate federal government entity....why didn't he simply focus on medicare and expanding to include other ages and income ranges? we would not have need the big drawn out battle and obama would have had an easier time brow beating the pubs over this.

if i don't want to buy insurance, the federal government has no authority to force me to. ultimately this question will likely be decided by the courts...it could have been avoided by simply focusing on medicare, a behemoth system already in place....but oh no....he had to have his "new" system so it would be named after him.
 
It gave people a very cute way to give charity to the family. I would have framed the drawing and hung it on my wall. Successful idea is successful.
 
maybe the 5 year old should have just danced around in a little jester suit for change. That would have been a cute way to get money for his cancer too.

I am torn. Part of me wants to troll because I know this is a decisive issue. Part of me did get sad when I read that we live in a society where this family either has to put their house up, or the kid has to work his ass off (in 5 year old terms) to live.

But then I think, it's really the parents fault. Everyone should have enough money when they bring a kid into this world to be able to pay their medical bills. Otherwise all the prole baby poppers are just going to fuck like rabbits and pass their stupid kids bills off onto us.

It's not the kids fault. But perhaps the solution is to pay the kid the money and then execute the parents for being irresponsible.
 
King of Names said:
maybe the 5 year old should have just danced around in a little jester suit for change. That would have been a cute way to get money for his cancer too.

I am torn. Part of me wants to troll because I know this is a decisive issue. Part of me did get sad when I read that we live in a society where this family either has to put their house up, or the kid has to work his ass off (in 5 year old terms) to live.

But then I think, it's really the parents fault. Everyone should have enough money when they bring a kid into this world to be able to pay their medical bills. Otherwise all the prole baby poppers are just going to fuck like rabbits and pass their stupid kids bills off onto us.

It's not the kids fault. But perhaps the solution is to pay the kid the money and then execute the parents for being irresponsible.
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Your reaction is actually quite similar to mine.
 
King of Names said:
It's not the kids fault. But perhaps the solution is to pay the kid the money and then execute the parents for being irresponsible.
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So you're going to pay for the kid yourself.

Your own money.

All that you have if that's what it takes.

And more.

Right?

That's what you're saying,,,,, right?

I got into this a little late.
 
Yurt said:
you're right about nothing being done until obama came along...however...he never tried the more simple route of simply expanding medicare and not forcing people to enter into a legally binding contract. obama went on and on about cleaning up medicare, big words....but he spent all his breath on his "new" government agency that is seriously flawed and likely unconstitutional in some aspects. instead of creating an entirely new and separate federal government entity....why didn't he simply focus on medicare and expanding to include other ages and income ranges? we would not have need the big drawn out battle and obama would have had an easier time brow beating the pubs over this.

if i don't want to buy insurance, the federal government has no authority to force me to. ultimately this question will likely be decided by the courts...it could have been avoided by simply focusing on medicare, a behemoth system already in place....but oh no....he had to have his "new" system so it would be named after him.
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Man I would like to comment on your post here, but,,,,, well,,, I'm just to damn drunk to make any real sense.
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;809185 said:
This just in: In response to the generous outpouring of compassionate conservatism above, another desperately sick child with no insurance is selling pictures he has drawn of his favorite monsters to pay for the treatment that could save his life.


Here are a couple:

john_boehner_meat_suit.jpg
sarah_palin_pancake.jpg
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You should go ahead and delete this post, too, along with all of your others.
 
King of Wisdom said:
Like mandating a purchase of a private service? Like forcing small businesses to go bankrupt for being unable to afford this new mandate? Like No price negotiation on prescription drugs?
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A single-payer or universal or full government plan would eliminate all those things. That was the goal but the Repubs fought every step of the way.
 
Yurt said:
you're right about nothing being done until obama came along...however...he never tried the more simple route of simply expanding medicare and not forcing people to enter into a legally binding contract. obama went on and on about cleaning up medicare, big words....but he spent all his breath on his "new" government agency that is seriously flawed and likely unconstitutional in some aspects. instead of creating an entirely new and separate federal government entity....why didn't he simply focus on medicare and expanding to include other ages and income ranges? we would not have need the big drawn out battle and obama would have had an easier time brow beating the pubs over this.

if i don't want to buy insurance, the federal government has no authority to force me to. ultimately this question will likely be decided by the courts...it could have been avoided by simply focusing on medicare, a behemoth system already in place....but oh no....he had to have his "new" system so it would be named after him.
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Expanding Medicare to include other ages and income ranges is exactly the problem Obama wanted to avoid because there will always be people in certain ages and income ranges who will be without coverage as Christiefan noted in msg 28. A single system would put an end to constant negotiations concerning whom to cover. Every time negotiations arose to include more people there would be others trying to exclude people.

A single-payer system would get rid of the necessity for multiple programs. Add to that a drug plan and the government would be guaranteed lower drug costs. The drug companies would recoup the lower prices by selling more product because everyone requiring a specific drug would receive it.
 
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