Bachmann: I'll bring back $2 gas

while nearly all or all politicians make empty promises, $2 gas is a thing of the past. promising such a silly thing is not too bright. gas should be at around $2.50-$3.00/gal
 
The Dude said:
no massive change is going to happen, for that I'm happy

Dune, here is a hurdle for you. If electric is soo viable, why is only 1 sold in mass numbers the leaf. And further even a plug in hybrid like the volt only sells in the 10,000 volume.
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Wait till next year, there will be far more models available.
 
Electric Cars In 2012 And 2013

by on Friday, April 15th 2011
in BMW, Electric Cars, Ford, Honda, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Tesla, Toyota, Volkswagen Tags: BMW, Electric Cars, Electric Cars 2012, Electric Cars 2013, Fiat, Ford, Honda, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Most Advanced Electric Vehicle, Toyota, Volkswagen
The demands on the electric car market are growing, and some manufacturers announced their intention to produce electric cars in next years. Covering the market from city cars and up to luxury cars, certainly in the coming years we enjoy from a wide variety of electric cars.
Considering that from Japan comes mostly of electric car manufacturers, we hope that their plans on the electric car industry will not change very much after the disaster that happened in March 2011.
In the following we make a list of electric cars which follow to be launched in 2012 or 2013 in U.S.
Chrysler/Fiat Electric Cars:
Chrysler and Fiat prepare for 2012 to launch Fiat 500EV electric car.
Ford Electric Cars:
Ford launches this year Focus electric, and for 2012 preparing to launch C-Max Energi.
Honda Electric Cars:
In 2012, Honda will introduce the Fit EV and a plug-in hybrid model with Honda’s new dual, two-motor hybrid system for mid- to larger-size vehicles.
Mitsubishi Electric Cars:
Mitsubishi launched in late 2011in the Western U.S. i-MiEV electric car, and nationwide in U.S. i-MiEV will be launched in 2012.

Smart Electric Cars:
Electric variant for 250 Smart Fortwo Electric Drive will be available by mid-2012.
Tesla Electric Cars:
In mid-2012 Tesla will begin selling the electric Model S sedan ($57,400).
Toyota Electric Cars: In 2012 Toyota will launch three electric cars: Prius Plug-in Hybrid, RAV4 EV in partnership with Tesla, and an electric car based on the iQ.
BMW Electric Cars:
BMW preparing for launch in 2013 two electric cars i3 and i8. The ActiveE is in field trials.
Mercedes-Benz Electric Cars:
With a poor start in the field of electrical cars, Mercedes prepares for 2013 in limited production SLS AMG E-Cell gull wing.
Volkswagen Electric Cars:
Volkswagen will launch on the market in 2013 Golf Blue-e-motion

http://www.cars-electric.com/electric-cars-in-2012-and- 2013






Bush II managed to set back electric cars by a good decade by cancelling the higher CAFE standards forced by the Clintons. This also had the effect of ruining the automotive industry, causing a taxpayer bailout.

Those invested in oil are always opposed to electric cars. 100 years ago, over 1/3 of all cars and trucks (as well as boats) where electric. The oil companies won then, as they almost won this time. The main difference is this time we know we are running out of oil.
 
I'm thinking of adding a propane conversion to my Silverado. I could fill up at home and would have two tanks as you can simply flip a switch and use regular gasoline. My truck could then use gas, ethanol, and propane. Options are cool.
 
Return of Dune said:
Electric Cars In 2012 And 2013

by on Friday, April 15th 2011
in BMW, Electric Cars, Ford, Honda, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Tesla, Toyota, Volkswagen Tags: BMW, Electric Cars, Electric Cars 2012, Electric Cars 2013, Fiat, Ford, Honda, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Most Advanced Electric Vehicle, Toyota, Volkswagen
The demands on the electric car market are growing, and some manufacturers announced their intention to produce electric cars in next years. Covering the market from city cars and up to luxury cars, certainly in the coming years we enjoy from a wide variety of electric cars.
Considering that from Japan comes mostly of electric car manufacturers, we hope that their plans on the electric car industry will not change very much after the disaster that happened in March 2011.
In the following we make a list of electric cars which follow to be launched in 2012 or 2013 in U.S.
Chrysler/Fiat Electric Cars:
Chrysler and Fiat prepare for 2012 to launch Fiat 500EV electric car.
Ford Electric Cars:
Ford launches this year Focus electric, and for 2012 preparing to launch C-Max Energi.
Honda Electric Cars:
In 2012, Honda will introduce the Fit EV and a plug-in hybrid model with Honda’s new dual, two-motor hybrid system for mid- to larger-size vehicles.
Mitsubishi Electric Cars:
Mitsubishi launched in late 2011in the Western U.S. i-MiEV electric car, and nationwide in U.S. i-MiEV will be launched in 2012.

Smart Electric Cars:
Electric variant for 250 Smart Fortwo Electric Drive will be available by mid-2012.
Tesla Electric Cars:
In mid-2012 Tesla will begin selling the electric Model S sedan ($57,400).
Toyota Electric Cars: In 2012 Toyota will launch three electric cars: Prius Plug-in Hybrid, RAV4 EV in partnership with Tesla, and an electric car based on the iQ.
BMW Electric Cars:
BMW preparing for launch in 2013 two electric cars i3 and i8. The ActiveE is in field trials.
Mercedes-Benz Electric Cars:
With a poor start in the field of electrical cars, Mercedes prepares for 2013 in limited production SLS AMG E-Cell gull wing.
Volkswagen Electric Cars:
Volkswagen will launch on the market in 2013 Golf Blue-e-motion

http://www.cars-electric.com/electric-cars-in-2012-and- 2013






Bush II managed to set back electric cars by a good decade by cancelling the higher CAFE standards forced by the Clintons. This also had the effect of ruining the automotive industry, causing a taxpayer bailout.

Those invested in oil are always opposed to electric cars. 100 years ago, over 1/3 of all cars and trucks (as well as boats) where electric. The oil companies won then, as they almost won this time. The main difference is this time we know we are running out of oil.
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link to the highlighted.

and it is absurd to claim (if true) that this ruined the auto industry. such a claim is so ignorant i'm surprised even you would make it. the research i've done on electric cars shows that electric cars are not the pipe dream you make them out to be. what resources would be used to power cars if all cars were electric dune? our infrastructure at this time is no where near ready to handle such a load on the national circuits.
 
Yurt said:
link to the highlighted.

and it is absurd to claim (if true) that this ruined the auto industry. such a claim is so ignorant i'm surprised even you would make it. the research i've done on electric cars shows that electric cars are not the pipe dream you make them out to be. what resources would be used to power cars if all cars were electric dune? our infrastructure at this time is no where near ready to handle such a load on the national circuits.
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Do your own research duchebag. It was one of his first acts as president.
If it hadn't happened, U.S manufacturers wouldn't have been caught with their pants down, selling just gas guzzling SUVs when gas topped $4, just before the car industry tanked.

As to infrastructure, as usual, you have no idea what you are talking about. Cars are mostly charged overnight, when demand is lowest. The existing infrastructure is more than sufficient, in fact, the grid becomes smarter for every electric car connected, and the utilities greatly benefit from a more balanced load, as well as increased sales. Idiot.
 
Dune I've bought and made a bunch on hybrid batteries! I've read tons on the subject.
I'm fine with gay's having thier market share represented, just don't try and sell it other than a dem talking point they are throwing money at.
 
Return of Dune said:
Do your own research duchebag. It was one of his first acts as president.
If it hadn't happened, U.S manufacturers wouldn't have been caught with their pants down, selling just gas guzzling SUVs when gas topped $4, just before the car industry tanked.

As to infrastructure, as usual, you have no idea what you are talking about. Cars are mostly charged overnight, when demand is lowest. The existing infrastructure is more than sufficient, in fact, the grid becomes smarter for every electric car connected, and the utilities greatly benefit from a more balanced load, as well as increased sales. Idiot.
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lol...can't back up your claim. why is it you ask others for links to back up their claims, but when confronted by the same, you hypocritically do not provide links. either provide the link or stfu.

you don't even realize how many cars are on the road. if we were to plug in 90% of those cars at night it would over burden the grid. there are over 250 million cars on the road. do you even realize that? i've done my research on this and in fact i was involved with a company a few years ago that was making electric and hybrid electric vehicles. it was well known that CURRENTLY our infrastructure cannot handle all vehicles being electric. not a single person claimed otherwise. further, many cars will in fact have to power up during the day until we can create batteries that will last longer.

you have YET to address the environmental impact of electric cars. it isn't the all green tech that everyone thinks and some promote.
 
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