Changes Coming to America

no, i propose keeping government(s) within the confines of their restricted powers. why must you be so extreme? why is it that you feel anything short of regulating the entirety of peoples lives is anarchy?

What regulation of people's lives is involved with ObamaCare? No one is obliged to visit a doctor.
 
Only if you can afford it. Otherwise, the government will subsidize the premiums.

Is that what you consider government tyranny?

any policy, rule, or law by government that draws a line and tells me if i'm on one side of it, i must pay for something, or on the other side, I must accept something is tyranny.
 
The OP is a very cool & interesting read.

It's easy to think of things with some nostalgia, but in general, it's also pretty easy to transition. I love books, and I really love libraries, but once you get used to something like the kindle, it's actually quite an improvement. It was the same w/ the ipod, and with any one of dozens of innovations we've seen over the past decade or so.
 
any policy, rule, or law by government that draws a line and tells me if i'm on one side of it, i must pay for something, or on the other side, I must accept something is tyranny.

Good grief. From driver's licences to building permits there are things people have to pay for. Do you want people building and selling houses that fall down?
 
How could a one world government be anything but oppresive?

It would utilize the planet's resources to the best benefit. An example I mentioned earlier was if oil was reduced in price food wouldn't be turned into fuel.

Another example is if agricultural advancements were given to the tribes in the Amazon they wouldn't have to cut down as much rain forest.

The planet is run in a piece-meal style. Proper planning does not have to be oppressive. In fact, it would be the opposite. Everyone would benefit.
 
It would utilize the planet's resources to the best benefit. An example I mentioned earlier was if oil was reduced in price food wouldn't be turned into fuel.

Another example is if agricultural advancements were given to the tribes in the Amazon they wouldn't have to cut down as much rain forest.

The planet is run in a piece-meal style. Proper planning does not have to be oppressive. In fact, it would be the opposite. Everyone would benefit.

Yeah, like BushII said, this would be a lot easier if I were a dictator.


 
am i obliged to buy an insurance policy or pay a fine if I don't?
Only if you use publicly owned hospitals/clinics. It's the same as using our publicly owned roads. If you want to use them you have to be finaincially responsible to use them. You can always opt out and not drive on publicly owned roads. Conversly, if you get sick you can choose not to use publicly owned hospitals or clinics and use privately owned ones. Since about 85% of hospitals and clinics are publicly owned, good luck with that. If you want to access our publicly owned hospitals and clinics then we have to right to make sure your not a free loader and that you have the required financial responsibility (i.e. insurance) needed to support our public health care system at a reasonable cost. If you want to access our publicly owned health care facilities with out the required financial responsibility then you free loaders should expect to be fined. Why the hell should the tax paying public pay for your financial irresponsibility?
 
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Good grief. From driver's licences to building permits there are things people have to pay for. Do you want people building and selling houses that fall down?

good grief. does a drivers license prevent accidents or deaths? does a permit to build a home prevent it from being sub standard?

no, they do not. and don't try to tell me that they reduce the chances of said accidents, deaths, and sub standard building because they don't.

If people choose to be irresponsible in their actions, they should be forced to pay for the consequences of their actions.
 
Only if you use publicly owned hospitals/clinics. It's the same as using our publicly owned roads. If you want to use them you have to be finaincially responsible to use them. You can always opt out and not drive on publicly owned roads.
please point out to me where in any constitution it limits my right to travel upon a road my taxes already pay for.

Conversly, if you get sick you can choose not to use publicly owned hospitals or clinics and use privately owned ones. Since about 85% of hospitals and clinics are publicly owned, good luck with that. If you want to access our publicly owned hospitals and clinics then we have to right to make sure your not a free loader and that you have the required financial responsibility (i.e. insurance) needed to support our public health care system at a reasonable cost.
publicly owned hospitals and clinics are paid for by taxes, right? i pay taxes, so what's the deal?

If you want to access our publicly owned health care facilities with out the required financial responsibility then you free loaders should expect to be fined. Why the hell should the tax paying public pay for your financial irresponsibility?
i'm a member of that tax paying public, dumbass.

you failed, 3 times in this post alone. care to try again with a different argument?
 
It would utilize the planet's resources to the best benefit. An example I mentioned earlier was if oil was reduced in price food wouldn't be turned into fuel.

Another example is if agricultural advancements were given to the tribes in the Amazon they wouldn't have to cut down as much rain forest.

The planet is run in a piece-meal style. Proper planning does not have to be oppressive. In fact, it would be the opposite. Everyone would benefit.

And then we could use transporters to move from one place to another and Star ships to interact with other beings.
(wide eyed anticipation)
 
good grief. does a drivers license prevent accidents or deaths? does a permit to build a home prevent it from being sub standard?

no, they do not. and don't try to tell me that they reduce the chances of said accidents, deaths, and sub standard building because they don't.

If people choose to be irresponsible in their actions, they should be forced to pay for the consequences of their actions.

Of course sub-standard building results in deaths. They are laws governing earthquake standards, snow loads on roofs, fire escape access, electrical wiring standards so houses do not burn down....

Obtaining a permit informs the town you are doing construction/renovation and an inspector visits to check the place/work.
 
And then we could use transporters to move from one place to another and Star ships to interact with other beings.
(wide eyed anticipation)

Don't forget the food replicators. No more shopping or cooking. Just push a button. The episode was titled "Tomorrow is Yesterday". The Enterprise is thrown back in time and they beam up a jet pilot who is chasing the Enterprise. When on board the pilot is asked if he's hungry and he said he could go for some chicken soup which a crew member produces with the food replicator.

Anyway, 2012 is finally here. Eleven months till the Anunnaki arrive.

 
Of course sub-standard building results in deaths. They are laws governing earthquake standards, snow loads on roofs, fire escape access, electrical wiring standards so houses do not burn down....

Obtaining a permit informs the town you are doing construction/renovation and an inspector visits to check the place/work.

Yes, and said inspector needs to see certain things before signing off...those "things" are frequently used, unmarked $20 bills wrapped in a paper bag, discreetly slipped to him while alone.
 
Yes, and said inspector needs to see certain things before signing off...those "things" are frequently used, unmarked $20 bills wrapped in a paper bag, discreetly slipped to him while alone.

Hey, if one can afford major construction/renovations they have a few $20 bills to spare.
 
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