Another Obama Record!… The Average Age of US Car on the Road Is 10.8 Years

Mott the Hoople said:
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell that to the people who bought them! LOL LOL LOL
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You mean the 2.2 million Chinese? GM was aided by the nonstop government hype and by the nonstop mishaps at Toyota. That is the only reason they returned to the top. Just watch the GM stock price if you want to see how well they are doing and and are projected to do.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Are you not paying attention to what's happening out there? 13 million cars were sold in the US last year. That's up 5 million units for 2008. Looks like they're buying new cars to me! LOL LOL LOL
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US automaker Ford Motor Co. (NYSE: F) will sell more than 2 million vehicles in the US in 2011, the first time since 2007 that any car maker has sold that many units. Ford still trails General Motors Co. (NYSE: GM) in US market share, with about 17% of the market to GM’s 20%. The latest estimate for total 2011 new car sales in the US is 13 million units.

Reuters reports that for the year through November, Ford sold 1.86 million units, GM sold 1.61 million, Toyota Motor Co. (NYSE: TM) sold 1.29 million, and Honda Motor Corp. (NYSE: HMC) sold 930,000.

Auto sales have been making a slow comeback in the US since hitting an annual rate of 16 million units in 2008 before collapsing to 10.4 million units in 2009.

Read more: Ford Sells 2 Million Cars in 2011 to U.S. Buyers (F, GM, TM, HMC) - 24/7 Wall St. http://247wallst.com/2011/12/30/for...2011-to-us-buyersd-f-gm-tm-hmc/#ixzz1k14Xka7D
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So no.... not 5 million over 2008... not even 5 million over the low in 2009.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Are you not paying attention to what's happening out there? 13 million cars were sold in the US last year. That's up 5 million units for 2008. Looks like they're buying new cars to me! LOL LOL LOL
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Also moron... I was addressing Jarods points. Which was not whether or not people were buying cars or even how many... but that he was wrong to state that people not buying cars somehow helps the economy.
 
It's a cool car, but lots of people compare it to a camry

32,000 catches fire, and needs a plug in! the dealers sell it to each other to pad the numbners. It's a huge failure so far.
 
Oh wait... I almost forgot.... LOL LOL LOL (seriously Mutt... if you are LOL, why type it three times? Are you fucking retarded?)
 
Unemployment will inevitably rise to 30%+, and GDP will start shrinking at 5-10 percent a year, should we elect a Republican. China will exceed America in 2013 or 2014 instead of 2020.
 
Superfreak said:
even with the Volts massive government subsidy, it is still not affordable. Not even close. Especially when you look at bang for buck.
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I don't know about bang for the buck as that is subjective but the total cost to own and operate one is around $5,000 more then a Leaf (how ever the Volt does out perform the Leaf) and about $10,000 more then a comparable economy sedan like a Ford Focus. With the $7,500 tax credit it's still a couple of thousand more in total cost over 5 years then a comparable economy sedan like a Ford Focue but that becomes a wash or break even point at year 6 and about a $2,500 gain at year 7. With out the tax credit you would have to drive the car for 10 years to break even on total cost with a comparable sized economy car.

So with the subsidization the technology becomes economically competative. That makes this a justifiable investment to help grow this technology and would go a long way towards lowering our dependence on foreigh oil. 95 mpg is damned impressive. So I have no problem with the government investing in developing this technology and I've got news for you. Most other nations governments invest and subsidize critical industries in order to continue to develop and grow market share for their economies. Why should the US be any different. In fact, the US would be stupid not to.
 
Superfreak said:
You mean the 2.2 million Chinese? GM was aided by the nonstop government hype and by the nonstop mishaps at Toyota. That is the only reason they returned to the top. Just watch the GM stock price if you want to see how well they are doing and and are projected to do.
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No dumbu ass. Those were domestic figures. They don't even count foreign sales, manufacturing or distribution.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I don't know about bang for the buck as that is subjective but the total cost to own and operate one is around $5,000 more then a Leaf (how ever the Volt does out perform the Leaf) and about $10,000 more then a comparable economy sedan like a Ford Focus. With the $7,500 tax credit it's still a couple of thousand more in total cost over 5 years then a comparable economy sedan like a Ford Focue but that becomes a wash or break even point at year 6 and about a $2,500 gain at year 7. With out the tax credit you would have to drive the car for 10 years to break even on total cost with a comparable sized economy car.

So with the subsidization the technology becomes economically competative. That makes this a justifiable investment to help grow this technology and would go a long way towards lowering our dependence on foreigh oil. 95 mpg is damned impressive. So I have no problem with the government investing in developing this technology and I've got news for you. Most other nations governments invest and subsidize critical industries in order to continue to develop and grow market share for their economies. Why should the US be any different. In fact, the US would be stupid not to.
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Just curious... does the 95mpg count just the gasoline used or does it somehow factor in the energy used to produce the electricity as well? Seriously curious, I don't know the answer.
 
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