What exactly is the argument for NOT drilling?

ZappasGuitar said:
Yeah, I understand why you don't want the discussion diverted into pesky little things like FACTS.

Pesky things those facts, they make your clueless rants that much more idiotic.

Make all the excuses you want...everyone understands it's what you do whenever anyone brings up those pesky "facts".
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lol.....anyone here remember the last time Zippy argued any issue on facts?.........I can't help, I've only been here since 2009......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
right, because you wanted people to think it was only a few of us......."oh look! Here's my excuse! It was in my back pocket all the time!"........lol......
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Um, no - because I said the exact same thing about libbies and drilling.

Your responses really couldn't possibly be dumber.....
 
Where are these posts that Dix-lie claims to have read?

The ones where liberals said they refuse to drill?

Link up, pwned Righties.
 
Well, I'm off. I might go see "Hunger Games" today.

Onceler: some people are going to see "Hunger Games" today.

PMP: you're wrong. I'm not going to see "Hunger Games."
 
"some fucked up low life conservatives wouldn't be caught dead going to Hunger Games because they're fucked up low life conservatives".......
 
Onceler said:
Well, I'm off. I might go see "Hunger Games" today. Onceler: some people are going to see "Hunger Games" today. PMP: you're wrong. I'm not going to see "Hunger Games."
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Did he prove that in another thread?
 
Too freakin funny! So basically, what I am hearing is, the liberals don't really have any valid reason for opposing domestic drilling, other than to be contrary to conservatives. Aside from that, they will even go so far as to LIE and claim they've never been opposed to drilling, and challenge me to prove them wrong! It's downright MANIC!
 
Dixie said:
Too freakin funny! So basically, what I am hearing is, the liberals don't really have any valid reason for opposing domestic drilling, other than to be contrary to conservatives. Aside from that, they will even go so far as to LIE and claim they've never been opposed to drilling, and challenge me to prove them wrong! It's downright MANIC!
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You made the claim, Dix-lie. Fail to prove it and take the shame.

Where are these threads you said you'd read?
 
bravo said:
Perhaps you don't read the posts much, huh ?
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So, who disagree with drilling? I don't read your posts, much, but I know you agree with drilling. So how many liberals are against drilling on this forum?

Be specific, since you read all the posts.
 
\\(())// said:
You made the claim, Dix-lie. Fail to prove it and take the shame.

Where are these threads you said you'd read?
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Well I would just say, if the left hasn't been opposed to drilling, I don't understand the problem, why aren't we drilling? Are you trying to say it's Republican's fault we aren't drilling? Maybe they are all just lying to us, making us believe it is you liberals who oppose it, while all along, it's really the republicans who don't want to drill?
 
Dixie said:
Well I would just say, if the left hasn't been opposed to drilling, I don't understand the problem, why aren't we drilling? Are you trying to say it's Republican's fault we aren't drilling? Maybe they are all just lying to us, making us believe it is you liberals who oppose it, while all along, it's really the republicans who don't want to drill?
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So your OP was a lie.
 
\\(())// said:
Where are these threads where "idiot liberals" defiantly refuse to budge on drilling?

Link up.

In the meantime, enjoy these facts:

Since February 2009, U.S. oil production has increased 15 percent..

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/fact-check-us-drilling-drop-gas-price-15967622

The U.S. exported more gasoline, diesel and other fuels than it imported in 2011 for the first time since 1949...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/u-s-was-net-oil-product-exporter-in-2011.html


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If domestic production is up, why am I still paying a shade under $4.00 per gallon?
 
Rana said:
So, who disagree with drilling? I don't read your posts, much, but I know you agree with drilling. So how many liberals are against drilling on this forum?

Be specific, since you read all the posts.
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I don't. I do, however, disagree with exporting domestic oil while gas prices are getting out of control.
 
Granule said:
If domestic production is up, why am I still paying a shade under $4.00 per gallon?
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Read and learn:


Factors that influence gasoline prices


Supply of crude oil – Most crude oil that’s refined into gasoline is produced and sold by Oil Producing Exporting Countries – or OPEC. This cartel of 12 countries in Africa, the Middle East and South America uses a loose quota system to determine how much oil to produce and sell. One of OPEC’s goals is to stabilize oil prices by eliminating unnecessary fluctuations. However, its decisions about production, pricing and distribution affect the price of international oil – and, consequently, the price of gasoline.


Worldwide demand – The demand for crude oil in China, India and other developing countries has risen with their population, increased trade, growing internal markets and strong commodity prices. In less than five years, it is estimated that developing nations will account for nearly half of the global demand for oil, up from 36 percent in 1996.


Distribution network – Anything that interrupts the flow of petroleum through the distribution network can cause gas prices to rise, such as a natural disaster like Hurricane Katrina or political instability in major oil-producing countries like Venezuela, Iraq and Nigeria.


Value of the U.S. dollar – Oil is traded on the world market is U.S. dollars. When the value of the dollar declines in comparison to other major currencies, OPEC earns less per barrel of oil. To compensate, it may raise the price per barrel, thereby increasing the price of gasoline.


The market – One of the most complicated factors that affect gas prices is the oil trading market – actually, three different markets that all can play a role in the price of gasoline.


Contract market – The fate of most oil and gas is predetermined by contracts among oil companies, dealers, refineries and independent dealers.


Spot market – This market fills the gaps in the contracts market by matching companies with surplus oil to those that need more. Of the three markets, the spot market is the only one where actual barrels of oil are traded. It’s also where the best deals can be found because buyers and sellers are not bound by contracts. Thus, the laws of the free market are in effect.


Futures market – Crude oil is traded on the New York Mercantile Exchange, although contracts are rarely fulfilled. For instance, while more than 5 billion barrels of oil were reportedly traded on the futures market during a seven-year period, only 31,000 were actually delivered. Regardless, the fluctuation in the price of oil per barrel is driven by information that represents the state of the oil market. In most cases, consumer gasoline.




http://www.nationwide.com/rss/gas-pr...luctuation.jsp




BTW, do you ask why you pay less when prices fluctuate downward?
 
Dixie said:
Too freakin funny! So basically, what I am hearing is, the liberals don't really have any valid reason for opposing domestic drilling, other than to be contrary to conservatives. Aside from that, they will even go so far as to LIE and claim they've never been opposed to drilling, and challenge me to prove them wrong! It's downright MANIC!
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What's even funnier is what we all hear from you...

"WAAAAAAAAH WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAH. I don't think I should have to show those damn Libruls proof to back up what I say...I'm "special"."

But by all means continue to highlight the FACT that you've got NO PROOF to back up those ridiculous allegations.
 
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