Gender rating

The birth control pill is a medication, not a device.



WRONG......Birth control pill CAN.....C A N ..... be a medication and Ms. Fluke didn't make a disticntion between needed medicine and avoiding pregnancy in her little rant....

and I already stipulated that if its used as medicine for a specific, diagnosed illness, it should be covered, without question.....
 
This is a completely irrelevant response.

how can it be irrelevant....I responded to your claim that a 40 year old woman's health care expenses are higher because of fucking and having babies by pointing out it's not a valid assumption that 40 year old women have higher health care expenses because they're having babies........what part of that isn't relevant?....
 
For all the men complaining about "paying for women's birth control."

Health-care law to end gender rating


A woman who buys her own health insurance in Ohio can count on paying more than a man for the same coverage, because of a discriminatory practice called gender rating. For many women, this can put affordable, comprehensive coverage out of reach.

President Obama's health-care law will ban such practices once it is fully implemented, but until then they remain a widespread problem.

In Ohio, 100 percent of the best-selling individual health insurance plans practice gender rating, and 100 percent exclude maternity coverage.

One plan charges a 40-year-old woman $371 more in annual premiums than a 40-year-old man for the same coverage. Another charges $669 more.
Nationwide, the effect of these discrepancies can be staggering. A new analysis by the National Women's Law Center finds that gender rating costs women approximately $1 billion a year.

Insurance companies are aware of the problem, but have not voluntarily taken steps to eliminate it. That's why provisions of the health-care law that will roll out in 2014 prohibit gender rating in the individual insurance market, require all plans on the individual market to provide maternity coverage, and prohibit sex discrimination in health plans from insurance companies that receive federal funds.

The practice of gender rating is not going away by itself. This national problem demands a national solution. We have one in the health-care law.

Marcia Greenberger
Co-President National Women's Law Center Washington, D.C.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Letters-.../31/Health-care-law-to-end-gender-rating.html

nothing will change until a law is sustained by the courts
 
I vote bigger profit. And before you jump on the link about "some research", why would women have to pay more for: "Charges for primary care, specialty care, emergency treatment, diagnostic services, and yearlong total charges were all significantly higher for women."

My wife pays EXACTLY the same for health insurance as I do....same company......
The doctor charges EXACTLY the same for her visit as I get charged for mine, obviously the same doctor.
If my wife is prescribed the same meds as I'm taking , the cost is EXACTLY to same for each of us.....

Naturally, we don't share the same diagnostic services or specialty care so I can't compare that.....
So I suspect your post is just more liberal 'talking points' bs from the same political spinners as you always use.....
 
My wife pays EXACTLY the same for health insurance as I do....same company......
The doctor charges EXACTLY the same for her visit as I get charged for mine, obviously the same doctor.
If my wife is prescribed the same meds as I'm taking , the cost is EXACTLY to same for each of us.....

Naturally, we don't share the same diagnostic services or specialty care so I can't compare that.....
So I suspect your post is just more liberal 'talking points' bs from the same political spinners as you always use.....

Did you even read the OP? The writer is talking about Ohio in particular. The same issue may or may not be happening in your state.
 
My wife pays EXACTLY the same for health insurance as I do....same company......
The doctor charges EXACTLY the same for her visit as I get charged for mine, obviously the same doctor.
If my wife is prescribed the same meds as I'm taking , the cost is EXACTLY to same for each of us.....

Naturally, we don't share the same diagnostic services or specialty care so I can't compare that.....
So I suspect your post is just more liberal 'talking points' bs from the same political spinners as you always use.....

Maybe you and your wife don't share the same diagnostic services or specialty care. But in my mind most body organs are gender-neutral. And women shouldn't have to pay more than men to get their inflamed gall bladders or appendices diagnosed and removed.
 
Fucking by definition isn't a one-person act. I've noted how you generally leave men out of the equation.


women aren't fucking and having babies on their own

These are your words....you need to clarify what your trying to convey.....

Fucking is your choice....take responsibility for its unintended consequences .... whether its disease or pregnancy......(pregnancy is not a disease)
I preferred a prophylactic rather than gonorrhea......it was MY responsibility to not get a disease ...

Why the hell do you expect strangers to take responsibility for your choices......
 
Maybe you and your wife don't share the same diagnostic services or specialty care. But in my mind most body organs are gender-neutral. And women shouldn't have to pay more than men to get their inflamed gall bladders or appendices diagnosed and removed.


I agree....but I'm not a medical expert and don't know what may be considered in any operation......

My wife's gall bladder operation didn't cost as much as her sister's either......what do you want, a price tag on surgery as if your buying a watch ?....

Maybe you need to question the medical profession for answers.............
 
Fucking by definition isn't a one-person act. I've noted how you generally leave men out of the equation.

Its the woman's body... should she not be the one to take care of it and the costs associated with doing so? If you on the one hand eliminate men from the decision on what happens if their mutual act results in a child and the woman decides to opt for the metal spike rather than the life of the child... why should men then also share the costs of insurance for a woman? He gets to pay but has no say?
 
I vote bigger profit. And before you jump on the link about "some research", why would women have to pay more for: "Charges for primary care, specialty care, emergency treatment, diagnostic services, and yearlong total charges were all significantly higher for women."

That was explained in the sentence that immediately preceeded the one you quoted. "Women had a significantly higher mean number of visits to their primary care clinic and diagnostic services than men". Aaaaaaand so at the end of the year "Charges for primary care, specialty care, emergency treatment, diagnostic services" are significantly higher because there are more of these charges.
 
That was explained in the sentence that immediately preceeded the one you quoted. "Women had a significantly higher mean number of visits to their primary care clinic and diagnostic services than men". Aaaaaaand so at the end of the year "Charges for primary care, specialty care, emergency treatment, diagnostic services" are significantly higher because there are more of these charges.

Women get diagnostic services because the doctor recommends it, not because they walk into the facility and ask for an MRI. But that's another discussion.
 
So basically a bunch of dudes are like "it's not may fault that women are born with lady parts, the system works for me so don't change it."
 
My wife pays EXACTLY the same for health insurance as I do....same company......
The doctor charges EXACTLY the same for her visit as I get charged for mine, obviously the same doctor.
If my wife is prescribed the same meds as I'm taking , the cost is EXACTLY to same for each of us.....

Naturally, we don't share the same diagnostic services or specialty care so I can't compare that.....
So I suspect your post is just more liberal 'talking points' bs from the same political spinners as you always use.....

And does your wife go to those Drs, 3-4 times MORE often than you do? THATS why womens healthcare insurance cost more, because they use more health care. EVEN when maternity care is excluded from the equation, they still use more healthcare.
 
Women get diagnostic services because the doctor recommends it, not because they walk into the facility and ask for an MRI. But that's another discussion.

The fact of the matter is that women go more often, not that it is a fault or that they do so just because they feel like it. They just have more that needs to be checked on a routine basis. This is especially true of women in their 20's-40's. Then the gap starts to narrow back down.
 
Aww shoot!

I thought it was giong to be a real JPP gender rating. kinda like;

Manliness rating (1 to 10 scale, 10 being most manly)

Billy - 7.8
Grind - 6.7
Watermark - 4.6
3D - 3
Damo - 7.1
Mott - 10.5
SuperFreak - 2.3
Bravo - -6.6
Darla - 8.9

lol. Awesome.
 
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