1 Million + Protesters In DC

Yesterday's crowd

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The attached article is worth a gander.

The Public Affairs Officer of the DC Fire and Rescue Dept. gave the official estimate as 70,000 attendees, filling the Capitol grounds, but only extending as far as Third Street on the mall. Oh, and the aerial shot purported to show an enormous crowd extending past 17th Street, inexplcably fails to show the Museum of the American Indian, which opened in September 2004, and is located right next door to the Air and Space Museum, between it and the Capitol. This apparent anomaly in the space-time continuum can only be explained in one of two ways: either the Museum of the American Indian has a cloaking device or the photo is more than 5 years old. Everybody knows the Air and Space Museum has the only cloaking device in DC, and anybody familiar with the bureaucratic pissing matches in DC knows the directors of those two museums haven't spoken a civil word to each other in years, and in fact hate each other's guts. There is no way the Air and Space Museum would allow the Museum of the American Indian to use its cloaking device, which leaves us with the undeniable truth that the photo is in fact more than 5 years old, and the organizers (or someone sharing their warped views), embarrassed by the paltry attendance, attempted to use an old photo to support their bogus crowd estimates. Unfortunately for them, their lack of intellect and/or sanity blinded them to the obvious discrepancy between the photo and current reality, much like the ridiculously faked birth certificate purporting to show that Obama was not a native-born American.

Speaking of which, one wonders why the allegedly liberal media have chosen not to publicize the reasons the US federal courts, including SCOTUS, have thrown out all the birthers' claims and lawsuits. The most likely answer is that the media are not liberal, and by not publicizing the reasons for dismissal of the suits, they give the birthers' ludicrous claims a faslse sheen of respectability and keep them from being summarily dismissed by the public the way they have been summarily dismissed by the courts.

Here is the reason the courts won't even consider the suits: being born in a foreign country is absolutely irrelevant to whether or not one is a native-born American. There are only two classes of citizens in the US: native born and naturalized. Naturalized citizens are those who had to go through the naturalization process because they were born (1) outside the US and (2) to foreign nationals (plural). Both of those must be true in order to require naturalization. Children born inside the US are native-born citizens regardless of their parents' status, and here's the biggie: a child born to an American citizen (singular) ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD is a native-born American. If one parent is an American citizen, so is the child, regardless of place of birth or birth country's rules of citizenship. The only proviso to tbhe above is that a child born to a person who was an American citizen at the time of birth "will be divested of citizenship of the United States if he or she fails to reside in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling 5 years between the ages of 13 and 21 years." (quoted from form FS-240, "CONSULAR REPORT OF BIRTH ABROAD OF A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"...my own, as a matter of fact, and as the son of a Foreign Service Officer, I was exempt from the above residency proviso)
 
The Public Affairs Officer of the DC Fire and Rescue Dept. gave the official estimate as 70,000 attendees, filling the Capitol grounds, but only extending as far as Third Street on the mall. Oh, and the aerial shot purported to show an enormous crowd extending past 17th Street, inexplcably fails to show the Museum of the American Indian, which opened in September 2004, and is located right next door to the Air and Space Museum, between it and the Capitol. This apparent anomaly in the space-time continuum can only be explained in one of two ways: either the Museum of the American Indian has a cloaking device or the photo is more than 5 years old. Everybody knows the Air and Space Museum has the only cloaking device in DC, and anybody familiar with the bureaucratic pissing matches in DC knows the directors of those two museums haven't spoken a civil word to each other in years, and in fact hate each other's guts. There is no way the Air and Space Museum would allow the Museum of the American Indian to use its cloaking device, which leaves us with the undeniable truth that the photo is in fact more than 5 years old, and the organizers (or someone sharing their warped views), embarrassed by the paltry attendance, attempted to use an old photo to support their bogus crowd estimates. Unfortunately for them, their lack of intellect and/or sanity blinded them to the obvious discrepancy between the photo and current reality, much like the ridiculously faked birth certificate purporting to show that Obama was not a native-born American.

Speaking of which, one wonders why the allegedly liberal media have chosen not to publicize the reasons the US federal courts, including SCOTUS, have thrown out all the birthers' claims and lawsuits. The most likely answer is that the media are not liberal, and by not publicizing the reasons for dismissal of the suits, they give the birthers' ludicrous claims a faslse sheen of respectability and keep them from being summarily dismissed by the public the way they have been summarily dismissed by the courts.

Here is the reason the courts won't even consider the suits: being born in a foreign country is absolutely irrelevant to whether or not one is a native-born American. There are only two classes of citizens in the US: native born and naturalized. Naturalized citizens are those who had to go through the naturalization process because they were born (1) outside the US and (2) to foreign nationals (plural). Both of those must be true in order to require naturalization. Children born inside the US are native-born citizens regardless of their parents' status, and here's the biggie: a child born to an American citizen (singular) ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD is a native-born American. If one parent is an American citizen, so is the child, regardless of place of birth or birth country's rules of citizenship. The only proviso to tbhe above is that a child born to a person who was an American citizen at the time of birth "will be divested of citizenship of the United States if he or she fails to reside in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling 5 years between the ages of 13 and 21 years." (quoted from form FS-240, "CONSULAR REPORT OF BIRTH ABROAD OF A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"...my own, as a matter of fact, and as the son of a Foreign Service Officer, I was exempt from the above residency proviso)

Start a birthers thread, jackanapes.
 
the national park service is spposed to estimate the crowd size for such events

did they and if so, did they post it

i never saw an official count and only heard that tens of thousands showed up from CNN
From Post 130:

“After the [Million Man March],” NPS spokesperson Dave Barna says, “the House appropriations committee said that ‘the committee has provided no funding’ for crowd estimations in gatherings in Washington, D.C. Basically we aren’t allowed to spend taxpayer dollars, that means even our salary, on crowd counts, so we’re out of it in D.C.”
 
southerntool where their any real photos of the teabaggers event or just the fake one?
I linked to it, it compares the picture of the million man march, the 1997 promise keepers (where the "fake" photo comes from) and the 9/12/2009 event.
 
Start a birthers thread, jackanapes.

Why? Did an aside not unrelated to the central thread make your head hurt? Oh, I know what your problem is: you had no answer for the first part of my post, which was clearly in line with the thread, and exposed your astroturf protest for the small assemblage of right-wing droolers it truly is, so you tried to deflect attention from the inherent insanity, stupidity, and dishonesty of your position, by bleating that the second part of my post belonged in a birther thread. Nice red herring.

Fine. So stipulated. The second part of my post belongs in a birther thread. Happy? Good. Now address the issue of fraudulent attendance claims I raised in the first part of my post. Yeah, that'll happen. What will your next logical fallacy be, as you try to avoid substance at all costs? Feel the walls closing in yet?

BTW, jackanapes?? Missed by a mile, Mr. (or is it Ms?) Malaprop. Try to avoid using words you don't understand. You've already shown yourself to be illogical and innumerate. Are you trying for the turdblossom memorial troglodyte teabagger troll's talking-point trifecta by demonstrating semiliteracy as well?

I'm pulling for you to win.
 
*sigh*

This is the Million Man March...

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This is the Promise Keepers Event in 1997 (The one that was reported as the "fake" photo.)

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This is a picture from 14th and E Street on 9/12/2009...

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Please note that it is not the picture from 1997, Zoombwaz...
 
Why? Did an aside not unrelated to the central thread make your head hurt? Oh, I know what your problem is: you had no answer for the first part of my post, which was clearly in line with the thread, and exposed your astroturf protest for the small assemblage of right-wing droolers it truly is, so you tried to deflect attention from the inherent insanity, stupidity, and dishonesty of your position, by bleating that the second part of my post belonged in a birther thread. Nice red herring.

Fine. So stipulated. The second part of my post belongs in a birther thread. Happy? Good. Now address the issue of fraudulent attendance claims I raised in the first part of my post. Yeah, that'll happen. What will your next logical fallacy be, as you try to avoid substance at all costs? Feel the walls closing in yet?

BTW, jackanapes?? Missed by a mile, Mr. (or is it Ms?) Malaprop. Try to avoid using words you don't understand. You've already shown yourself to be illogical and innumerate. Are you trying for the turdblossom memorial troglodyte teabagger troll's talking-point trifecta by demonstrating semiliteracy as well?

I'm pulling for you to win.
I defer to Damo's research to silence your redolent filth hole.
 
Why? Did an aside not unrelated to the central thread make your head hurt? Oh, I know what your problem is: you had no answer for the first part of my post, which was clearly in line with the thread, and exposed your astroturf protest for the small assemblage of right-wing droolers it truly is, so you tried to deflect attention from the inherent insanity, stupidity, and dishonesty of your position, by bleating that the second part of my post belonged in a birther thread. Nice red herring.

Fine. So stipulated. The second part of my post belongs in a birther thread. Happy? Good. Now address the issue of fraudulent attendance claims I raised in the first part of my post. Yeah, that'll happen. What will your next logical fallacy be, as you try to avoid substance at all costs? Feel the walls closing in yet?

BTW, jackanapes?? Missed by a mile, Mr. (or is it Ms?) Malaprop. Try to avoid using words you don't understand. You've already shown yourself to be illogical and innumerate. Are you trying for the turdblossom memorial troglodyte teabagger troll's talking-point trifecta by demonstrating semiliteracy as well?

I'm pulling for you to win.

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