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PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch,

Capitalism takes care of that. Where demand is created, capitalism seeks to meet it with supply, thus creating jobs and tax revenue.
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Agreed to an extent, but socialist-minded people tend to have a "Kill-the-Golden-Goose" mentality. Fine as long as there are capitalist-minded people to balance them out. Bad if the goose is served up as dinner.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Pour yourself another glass and celebrate! :clink:
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One of the worst things we as Americans did was stop giving credit to those who are right, stop penalizing those who are wrong, and continue to tolerate those who lie constantly.

Accountability is what we stopped doing.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Nothing wrong with new words.

OTOH, the Inuit have about 40-50 words for snow and the Swedes about 25. To date, I've never seen or heard of one of them going berserk because who lived elsewhere didn't know those words. Perhaps your college education and world travels have taught you differently.

Agreed there's nothing wrong with new words, but there's a lot wrong with condemning people because they are slow to understand or even refuse to convert to the new terminology. There are various reasons why this would be. Most, but not all, reasons of which reflect poorly on the person not learning. Better, IMO, to just help spread new terminology as if one were helping a foreigner with in the US understand something.

From a science POV, I know sexuality is buried so deep into mammalian wiring that it's still poorly understood. We don't know why some people have various sexual behaviors and it's a popular area of study.

From societal POV, what happens between consenting adults is nobody's business. That's a two-way street.
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So, after you snipped my post, *that* is your response?

Did you gain anything from the post that took me a good deal of time to write because you asked me to provide it?

You can't say I never tried.
 
Diesel said:
Dude, you haven't been sober in decades. You told me that. I have personally watched you post, "Buckle up," for years. You're a fucking moron. Full stop.
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Liar, I doubt very much that I used that phrase more than a couple of times till a few months ago.
 
Diesel said:
Bull Fucking Shit. I know you from Debate Politics, meth head.
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I did not use that phrase at DP or anywhere else other than perhaps a handful of times, you are lying yet again. I have for several decades been called a chicken little but then the arc of history largely pronounced me at least partly correct in my concerns.....I dont get called that much anymore.......that is what being right a high percentage of the time has earned me.

DP failed when they pushed me out using in part Mod Abuse to do it. I put up a lot of great content there, it was better for me being there.
 
Diesel said:
So, after you snipped my post, *that* is your response?

Did you gain anything from the post that took me a good deal of time to write because you asked me to provide it?

You can't say I never tried.
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You had a choice: It was a long post covering various topics and I snipped out a section for discussion. You had the choice of discussing it or becoming offended because I clipped a post for brevity. You chose being offended.

Had I clipped it out of context, I'd agree it would have been inappropriate, but that's not why you were offended, was it?

Yes, I took a lot out, but did you really expect me to write back on every point? You travel a lot. Business or a Flight Attendant? What are your favorite countries or cities? I traveled a lot myself, both the Western Pacific and the Mediterranean countries for extended periods and a few other places temporarily. The Far East interests me most due to an interest in Eastern Philosophy.

Did you graduate college? Any additional training? BA Psych, MS Int'l Rel. The majority of my "gender studies" were human sexuality classes, I & II but there were tangential classes since human sexuality is so closely tied to psychology and sociology.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I did not use that phrase at DP or anywhere else other than perhaps a handful of times, you are lying yet again. I have for several decades been called a chicken little but then the arc of history largely pronounced me at least partly correct in my concerns.....I dont get called that much anymore.......that is what being right a high percentage of the time has earned me.

DP failed when they pushed me out using in part Mod Abuse to do it. I put up a lot of great content there, it was better for me being there.
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So you were partly correct a high percentage of the time? What part(s) did you get correct?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
So you were partly correct a high percentage of the time? What part(s) did you get correct?
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Broadly speaking: That the West was failing, as was evidenced by the low quality of work and the low quality of the people that were obviously all around. I knew that performance matters, that we were not performing, as almost everyone else was fine with constant fucking around, being DICKS, wallowing in ignorance and lying.
 
Hello Dutch,

Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed to an extent, but socialist-minded people tend to have a "Kill-the-Golden-Goose" mentality. Fine as long as there are capitalist-minded people to balance them out. Bad if the goose is served up as dinner.
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That's what most of the world has realized. A mixture of capitalism and socialism, get the balance right.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch,



That's what most of the world has realized. A mixture of capitalism and socialism, get the balance right.
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That the health of the collective must be minded, and the markets alone will not do that because of the tragedy of the commons problem. Also, that knowing which tools to use in what was is fundamental, and that spiritual wisdom or something very like it is required to perform in this regard. We have tended to be chimps/chumps doing what feels good and what makes us money and reputation, rather than wise people who do what is right and good, for all.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Broadly speaking: That the West was failing, as was evidenced by the low quality of work and the low quality of the people that were obviously all around. I knew that performance matters, that we were not performing, as almost everyone else was fine with constant fucking around, being DICKS, wallowing in ignorance and lying.
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Wow. I hadn't noticed. Frankly, my life is pretty sweet. Have you considered moving to Texas?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Broadly speaking: That the West was failing, as was evidenced by the low quality of work and the low quality of the people that were obviously all around. I knew that performance matters, that we were not performing, as almost everyone else was fine with constant fucking around, being DICKS, wallowing in ignorance and lying.
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This is a part of how you know that I am not a conservative: Stick with the program, we dont need a lot of change? Fuck No, that is wrong

Also I was extensively trained in the East, I have spent decades on the rigorous path of Zen, I am an adventurer, I am a seeker, I tend to be a trailblazer, I have lived my entire life outside of the herd......and it has been now decades since I have wanted for it to be different. This is not what a Conservative looks like.


I am a Progressive.....Heterodox.......I am not one of those lying fuck Woke Regressives who stole the name and claim that no one else can use it.


Fuck. Them.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch,

That's what most of the world has realized. A mixture of capitalism and socialism, get the balance right.
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Agreed. IMO, what we have works*, but culturally, we seem a bit lost. It doesn't matter if we have the greatest plan in the world if no one gives a shit about it. Most people are content to do nothing. Until they are no longer content, change will be slow.


*constitutional federal republic fueled by regulated capitalism and with a socialist safety net for the infirm, elderly and minors.
 
Hello Dutch,

Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. IMO, what we have works*, but culturally, we seem a bit lost. It doesn't matter if we have the greatest plan in the world if no one gives a shit about it. Most people are content to do nothing. Until they are no longer content, change will be slow.


*constitutional federal republic fueled by regulated capitalism and with a socialist safety net for the infirm, elderly and minors.
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Socialism for needs. Capitalism for wants. Big government to regulate every market where people can get ripped off, or the environment could get harmed. Logic and sense. Organization. Law and order. Stability. Security. Freedom where possible. Oversight where needed. Responsible elected bodies to determine the when how and where this is all appropriate. A well informed and actively engaged populace to oversee government. The responsibility lies with all of us.

Government haters get lost. We need patriots who get the big picture.
 
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