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Here is a question you can try to wrap your brain around shit stain. If the stock market is such a better investment than real estate, then why is it banks will never lend you money to invest in the stock market, but they will lend you money to invest in real estate.

I would love to hear the answer from JPPs self proclaimed expert in finance. Ready? Go bitch.
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Real Estate vs. Stocks - Which Is the Better Investment?
A Comparison of Real Estate Investments vs. Stocks

By Joshua Kennon

Real estate sign indicating sold house - Chad Baker/Jason Reed/Ryan McVay/Photodisc/Getty Images
Chad Baker/Jason Reed/Ryan McVay/Photodisc/Getty Images Asking the questions, “Which is a better investment – real estate or stocks?” is like asking whether chocolate or vanilla is superior or if an Aston Martin is better than a Bentley. There really isn’t an answer because a lot of it comes down to your personality, preferences, and style. It also comes down to the specifics of the individual investment. Very few stocks would have beat buying beachfront property in California in the 1970’s using a lot of debt, and then cashing in twenty years later. Virtually no real estate could have beat the returns you earned if you invested in shares of Microsoft, Johnson & Johnson, Wal-Mart, Berkshire Hathaway, Dell or Southwest Airlines, especially if you reinvested your dividends. So the answer, as with many things in life, isn’t as easy as it may seem.
Let’s begin by looking at each type of investment:

Real Estate: When you invest in real estate, you are buying physical land or property. Some real estate costs you money every month you hold it - think of a vacant parcel of land that you hope to sell to a developer someday but have to come up with cash out-of-pocket for taxes and maintenance. Some real estate is cash generating – think of an apartment building, rental houses, or strip mall where the tenants are sending you checks each month, you pay the expenses, and keep the difference as the profit.
Stocks: When you buy shares of stock, you are buying a piece of a company. Whether that company makes ice cream cones, sells furniture, manufacturers motorcycles, creates video games, or provides tax services, you are entitled to a cut of the profit, if any, for every share you own. If a company has 1,000,000 shares outstanding and you own 10,000 shares, you own 1% of the company. Wall Street makes it seem far more complicated than it is.
The company’s Board of Directors, who are elected by stockholders just like you to watch over the management, decides how much of the profit each year gets reinvested in expansion and how much gets paid out as cash dividends. If you are interested in this concept, read Investing Lesson 1. It will explain how a company sells stock in itself and how those shares end up being traded on Wall Street. You may even want to check out Investing Lesson 2 – Why Stocks Become Over or Under Valued to understand what moves stock prices.
The Pros and Cons of Real Estate vs. Stocks

Now, let’s look at the pros and cons of each type of investments to better understand them.
Pros of Investing in Real Estate

Real estate is often a more comfortable investment for the lower and middle classes because they grew up exposed to it (just as the upper classes often learned about stocks, bonds, and other securities during their childhood and teenage years). It’s likely most people heard their parents talking about the importance of “owning a home”. The result is that they are more open to buying land than many other investments.
When you invest in real estate, you invest in something tangible. You can look at it, feel it, drive by with your friends, point out the window, and say, “I own that”. For some people, that’s important psychologically.
It’s more difficult to be defrauded in real estate compared to stocks if you do your homework because you can physically show up, inspect your property, run a background check on the tenants, make sure that the building is actually there before you buy it, do repairs yourself ... with stocks, you have to trust the management and the auditors.
Using leverage (debt) in real estate can be structured far more safely than using debt to buy stocks by trading on margin.
Real estate investments have traditionally been a terrific inflation hedge to protect against a loss in purchasing power of the dollar.
Cons of Investing in Real Estate
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Compared to stocks, real estate takes a lot of hands-on work. You have to deal with the midnight phone calls about exploding sewage in a bathroom, gas leaks, the possibility of getting sued for a bad plank on the porch, and a whole host of things that you probably never even considered. Even if you hire a property manager to take care of your real estate investments, it’s still going to require occasional meetings and oversight.
Real estate can cost you money every month if the property is unoccupied. You still have to pay taxes, maintenance, utilities, insurance, and more, meaning that if you find yourself with a higher-than-usual vacancy rate due to factors beyond your control, you could actually have to come up with money each month!
As you learned in The Great Real Estate Myth, the actual value of real estate hardly ever increases in inflation-adjusted terms (there are exceptions, of course). This is made up for by the power of leverage. That is, imagine you buy a $300,000 property by putting in $60,000 of your own money, and borrowing the other $240,000. If inflation goes up 3% because the government printed more money and now each dollar is worth less, then the house would go up to $309,000 in value. Your actual “value” of the house hasn’t changed, just the number of dollars it takes to buy it. Because you only invested $60,000, however, that represents a return of $9,000 on $60,000. That’s a 15% return. Backing out the 3% inflation, that’s 12% in real gains before factoring in the costs of owning the property. That is what makes real estate so attractive.

Thanks for proving my point bitch. You once said you were too scared to invest in real estate. Maybe that is why you lash out.
 
The economy isn't great because one can get double-digit gains in the market . . .

The economy sux because nobody can get any return anywhere else (especially in historically "safe" vehicles).

That one must be in stocks to get any meaningful return is why this is so dangerous.

Historically a return of 1% was considered to be incredibly impressive. Historical rates of return since Roman times are actually a fraction of 1%. It's only in the modern era that everyone has got it in their head that 3%+ growth every year is normal.
 
Historically a return of 1% was considered to be incredibly impressive. Historical rates of return since Roman times are actually a fraction of 1%. It's only in the modern era that everyone has got it in their head that 3%+ growth every year is normal.

Yeah, that period called the industrial revolution, when people made shit and the future had value.

Today nobody makes anything here, the economy is all borrowing forward, stealing the value from future production . . .

That and ZIRP and QE . . .
 
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