You can bet Mueller's got it all teed up and ready to go. He's not sloppy like Conservatives and Trump are.
11 USC 110.20(b) and 11 USC 110.20(g)
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You can bet Mueller's got it all teed up and ready to go. He's not sloppy like Conservatives and Trump are.
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I hope he's aiming for the right fairway. He pretty much fucked up with his support of the Iraq debacle and indicting Concord Management.
Teflon Don
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Why am I not surprised that you chose the cognitive dissonance approach.
I like how you try to conflate things. Kudos. Someone less intelligent than my not have picked up on it.
First you cite ZERO proof of your claims
Second, you claim that it was 20K HRC emails
Third, you claim that Wikileaks released 20K stolen emails, yet they were emails of John Podesta
Do you think John Podesta and Hillary are the same person?
Also, Trump never said 20,000 emails. He said 30,000. It seems he is much closer to the number of "missing" emails than you claim
I accept your concession. I give you a C for effort though
So this is a scandal, how? And if the e-mails were deleted, as she said, how could Russia "find them"? Obviously because it wasn't Clinton's e-mails that were hacked, ever. Her e-mails were never hacked. What was hacked was the DNC, so what you and Trump are both doing here is conflating Hillary's 30,000 e-mails on her private server with the 20,000 e-mails Russian hackers stole from the DNC, informed the Trump campaign about, then arranged for a meeting at Trump Tower to review, then released them via Wikileaks.
Then Trump went on TV and solicited Russia's help to "find" Clinton's e-mails, then Russia spear-phished Podesta that same day.
So this timeline is a massive attempt at a redirect via conflation. And a pretty shitty one at that.
Former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Michael T. Flynn,[75] former United States Secretary of Defense Robert Gates,[76][77] and former deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency Michael Morell[78][79] have said that it is likely that foreign governments were able to access the information on Clinton's server. Michael Hayden, former Director of the National Security Agency, Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence, and Director of the Central Intelligence Agency said "I would lose all respect for a whole bunch of foreign intelligence agencies if they weren't sitting back, paging through the emails."[80]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy#Hacking_attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy#Hacking_attempts
OK, so a couple things:
1. Russia had already hacked the DNC prior to Trump asking them for help.
2. That DNC hack was dumped on Wikileaks two days before Trump asked Russia for help.
3. The same day Trump asked Russia for help, Russian hackers spear-phished Podesta.
So Trump asked them for help, and that same day they obliged.
So that's collusion.
^^Russian Active Measure^^
I can verify all the events in the dates I listed, including the tweet from Trump's campaign official saying Russia was in possession of 20,000 stolen e-mails which alone is conspiracy because it means the Trump campaign was approached by Russia with illegally obtained information.
Wrong again. It is you who doesn't know the timeline.
Wikileaks dumped the e-mails from the DNC hack -that Scavino had previously tweeted were from HRC- on July 25th.
On July 27th, Trump asked Russia for help.
On July 27th, Russian hackers began their spear-phishing campaign against Podesta.
Because they couldn't get to Hillary's server, they tried to go through Podesta.
Yeah, and Russia went after Podesta that same day. Since Podesta was Clinton's campaign chair, it makes sense they'd go through him to try to get to her.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
I don't think you can verify shit or you would. But, allow me to yet again blow up one of your bullshit claims
Podesta clicked on the phishing email in March not July 27th like you claim. Now how could you be so fabulously wrong about that?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-phishing-email-that-hacked-the-account-of-john-podesta/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinm...revent-it-from-happening-to-you/#7b1831a52476
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/how-john-podesta-got-hacked-839125
The rest of your conspiracy theory is rendered moot. You haven't gotten anything right you dumb fuck.
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Ah, you're right.
I was mistaken about that.
The spear-phishing that happened the day Trump asked Russia for help was against Clinton directly.
From Mueller's indictment:
“For example, on or about July 27, 2016, the conspirators attempted after-hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton’s personal office,”
So Trump asked Russia to hack Clinton, and they obliged that same day.
This is after his son had already met with Russia ("no one had any contact with Russia") about stolen e-mails from Podesta.
So how is it a joke?
Not at all.
Trump said "no one had any contact with Russia" - that was a lie, right?
Trump's son and campaign manager met with Russian officials at Trump Tower "about adoptions" ("to get dirt on Clinton").
But they knew the dirt Russia had was illegally obtained because Scavino tweeted that Russia had the e-mails back in May.
So they took the meeting at Trump Tower knowing Russia was in possession of e-mails illegally hacked.
Then in July, Trump asked Russia on live TV for help to find Clinton's e-mails.
That day, Russia launched their attack on Clinton's servers via spear-phishing.
Your contention is that when Trump asked Russia for help, he was joking.
Well not sure why you think that is, when the same day he asked Russia for help they launched their attack on Clinton's servers, and this is after he learned that Russia had already stolen 20,000 e-mails earlier.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
It is like you aren’t even trying now
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...a5feea-4160-11e5-8ab4-c73967a143d3_story.html
Hillary’s illegal server was turned over to the FBI in August 2015
Give up already
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
If Russia was really trying to get emails for Trump spear Phishing isn’t the best means as it requires the person being targeted to do something
Want to try again?
Spear-phishing is how they gain access to the servers. They send an e-mail that either contains a link or attachment that, when opened, gives the hacker access. They can't simply hack into a server on its face; they need someone on the receiving end to give them access. That's how Sony was hacked, that's how Podesta was hacked, that's how the DNC was hacked. They tried the same tactic against Clinton's servers.
But that doesn't explain why it was "a joke" for Trump to ask Russia to find Clinton's e-mails. Trump already knew that Russia had hacked the DNC and Podesta, right? So he already knew they were capable of hacking, or he had already planned it with them and couldn't resist keeping his big mouth shut...which would make sense given his proclivity to shooting his mouth off.