118 visits to WH

Jarod said:
I am NOT jealous, if you knew these people you would also not be jealous. They are not people to be envious of, I promise you! It is important to understand how our economic system works, especially if you are voting on issues relating to economic policy. Knowing how others got what they have is part of that. If you swallow the Conservative Myth that hard work and dedication is the only way to wealth you are perpetrating a fraud. Its my position that large inheritances are very often very harmful to the repentant, so no, I'm not jealous of those who got that.
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You obviously care enough about what they do to go snooping into what they earn. You obviously care enough to "assume" it was an inheritance. How do you know? And why is it any of your business? Do you really understand the implications of what you are saying?

Again, I don't know anyone who claims that "hard work and dedication are the ONLY way to wealth". It is a definite component for success. But, for wealth? No, I have never made that claim and don't know anyone else who has. You do a great job at building up these phony arguments to knock down.

You are free to have an opinion that large inheritances harm those that receive them and I would suspect that as Exhibit A you could use the Kennedy clan with Teddy as the standard bearer. But, in the end, it is really none of your business if you think we should live in a free society.

You hold some very scary views that are antithetical to freedom
 
Dungheap said:
We know whom he visited at the White House. Mostly, he visited Nancy Ann DePerle, also known as Obama's Health Care Czar, and her assistant, Sarah Fenn. Which is completely unsurprising.
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Mostly he visited her in early 2010, about 25 visits or so... out of the 118. Which as you said is not surprising.

I wonder what the 50+ meetings were about when he met with Sarah Fenn... Assistant Council of Ethics... WH staff.
 
Jarod said:
OK, so? What does that mean?

Great 118 times now has turned to 4.

So the guy decides to break Federal Law and commit a crime that should get him fired... the guy decides not to disclose this information... and later meets with his boss four times (Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the Federal Government) and to you that is evidence that he MUST have told his boss?
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No moron... he still visited 118 times. When I first asked, my question was did he meet with Obama. He did. Even after he knew of the targeting.

No moron... it is not evidence he MUST have told his boss. Again moron, I am asking a question... do you really believe he would meet with Obama, knowing there was an issue that could blow up and didn't warn him? I think you are pretty fucking naive to think that is the case.
 
maineman said:
and that tidbit proves what, exactly?
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Doesn't prove anything... other than Obama met with him after Shulman knew about the targeting.

Just like the 50+ meetings Shulman had with Fenn doesn't prove anything either...

The point is what were they meeting about and what was discussed.
 
Thing1 said:
Hey - nice going. You finally got it.
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Hey moron... the point is the questions should be asked of those in attendance. I never once stated that the visits proved anything by themselves. But that we should find out why he was there. What were 50+ meetings with Sarah Fenn about? What was discussed at that June 5th meeting?
 
I Love America said:
You obviously care enough about what they do to go snooping into what they earn. You obviously care enough to "assume" it was an inheritance. How do you know? And why is it any of your business? Do you really understand the implications of what you are saying?

Again, I don't know anyone who claims that "hard work and dedication are the ONLY way to wealth". It is a definite component for success. But, for wealth? No, I have never made that claim and don't know anyone else who has. You do a great job at building up these phony arguments to knock down.

You are free to have an opinion that large inheritances harm those that receive them and I would suspect that as Exhibit A you could use the Kennedy clan with Teddy as the standard bearer. But, in the end, it is really none of your business if you think we should live in a free society.

You hold some very scary views that are antithetical to freedom
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I disagree with most of what you say here. They Kennedy's, the Bush's Donald Trump are three great examples of my arguments, but there are plenty of others and its not just HUGE inheritances like those people got... its smaller ones also, when people do not have pressure to succeed it often harms their chances.
 
Superfreak said:
No, the point is that with that many visits, only a partisan hack would believe it wasn't discussed. Almost a quarter of the working days in those two years... he was in the WH. But do go on burying your head in the sand or up Obama's ass, whichever you prefer
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So, if I don't believe there was conspiracy & corruption, I'm a partisan hack.

You're not just fishing for info, SF. Don't be dishonest - your words from earlier in the thread betray that "cat who ate the canary" routine.
 
Superfreak said:
No moron... he still visited 118 times. When I first asked, my question was did he meet with Obama. He did. Even after he knew of the targeting.

No moron... it is not evidence he MUST have told his boss. Again moron, I am asking a question... do you really believe he would meet with Obama, knowing there was an issue that could blow up and didn't warn him? I think you are pretty fucking naive to think that is the case.
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I think you are pretty fucking naïve to think he would tell Obama. At worst he MIGHT have told some of the people around Obama, but plausible deniability is a serious issue regarding what you tell the POTUS if you work for him. These advisors are trained to not tell the President everything.
 
BREAKING NEWS. I HAVE OBTAINED A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE INTIMATE MEETING ON JUNE 5, 2012 WHERE SHULMAN SURELY TOLD OBAMA ABOUT THE IRS SCANDAL:

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LOLers.
 
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