118 visits to WH

The IRS does not require that organizations get a determination of tax exempt status prior to filing as such. They can ask the IRS for such a determination if they choose. These TEA party organizations, en mass, requested such a determination. It sounds like a coordinated effort to set the IRS up to me...

Yes, there are officials who are invited and attend events at the WH on a regular basis. I've worked in D.C. and known such government officials. They are very proud of there access, even though they rarely see or meet with the President. They go to every event they can get an invitation to. Someone as high up as that guy is likely invited to every event and if is so inclined, could easily attend 118 of them. You are speaking out of you ass because you are ignorant of what constitutes, going to the White House for a high ranking official.

I was not even involved in the government and my name appears on the log 4 times for the three years I lived in D.C.. I only met President Clinton once and it was not at the White House. I never once met with any government officials at the White House about anything official.

So, you suppose that if someone goes to the White House they met with someone about something? Ugh.

Again, there are plenty of times a Washington Official goes to even social events at the WH, when the President is not even home. Geesh you guys with the ODS are wacked out.

Except the vast majority of the visits were indeed meetings. Why did he meet 50+ times with Sarah Fenn?
 
And then DH should invite me and Jarod over so that Sf has to make us sandwiches. Also, I would like a special margarita made with freshly squeezed organic limes. And make sure you don't spill any SF!

Hawaiian sea salt on the rim of my glass, as well! Love the image...
 
It would be the best party. And SF would have to clean up afterwards while we just went home. Not together of course Onceler... ;)

Well, we could at least make him think that as we leave; he'd be jealous.

All while laughing about how cool it is to audit conservative groups. And we could spend the whole party talking about how certain AGW is, and he wouldn't be allowed to say anything as "the help."
 
and you should know that our government is a big and complex and difficult system to operate and there really isn't time allotted to explain the purpose and agenda of every meeting to every curious conspiracy nut on the internet. Sorry.

Your first statement argues for a smaller government then doesn't it? I mean if someone as smart and brilliant as Obama can't control it then it must be time to shrink it, no?
 
I disagree with most of what you say here. They Kennedy's, the Bush's Donald Trump are three great examples of my arguments, but there are plenty of others and its not just HUGE inheritances like those people got... its smaller ones also, when people do not have pressure to succeed it often harms their chances.

Maybe and maybe not. I still don't see how that is any of your business. How are they harming you?

How is your neighbor harming you other than illiciting your petty jealousy over what they have that you do not? For all you know they have part time jobs? Ever think of that? Maybe they sell shit on Ebay. Ever think of that? Maybe they have a side business. Ever think of that? Why do you assume that it is inheritance?

Maybe you should have Obama's IRS investigate them
 
Well, we could at least make him think that as we leave; he'd be jealous.

All while laughing about how cool it is to audit conservative groups. And we could spend the whole party talking about how certain AGW is, and he wouldn't be allowed to say anything as "the help."

LOL It just gets better and better.
 
Am I wrong on that Garud? Did you state that the one meeting with Obama on June 5th was a social event? Show me the post.

Do you KNOW how many other of the 118 were social in nature? Of course you don't. And here's the big news flash (again): as private citizens, we don't get to KNOW what people in government talk to one another about every time they meet. Sorry. I thought you would have known that.
 
Your first statement argues for a smaller government then doesn't it? I mean if someone as smart and brilliant as Obama can't control it then it must be time to shrink it, no?

Not at all. One man doesn't need to "control" all of it. He just needs to surround himself with bright and capable people, point them in the right direction, and periodically monitor and evaluate their progress.
 
Not at all. One man doesn't need to "control" all of it. He just needs to surround himself with bright and capable people, point them in the right direction, and periodically monitor and evaluate their progress.

It would appear that none of those three things happened. Isn't he ultimately responsible though?
 
It would appear that none of those three things happened. Isn't he ultimately responsible though?

Responsible? Of course he is. Criminally liable? Obviously not. We have different opinions as to the performance of Obama. Your side seems to believe he is the worst president ever and has grossly misused his constitutional powers. My side disagrees. Your side has control of the House of Representatives. Quit flapping your fucking gums and impeach the motherfucker. This shit is getting old, and repetitive,and BOOOOOOORING.
 
Responsible? Of course he is. Criminally liable? Obviously not. We have different opinions as to the performance of Obama. Your side seems to believe he is the worst president ever and has grossly misused his constitutional powers. My side disagrees. Your side has control of the House of Representatives. Quit flapping your fucking gums and impeach the motherfucker. This shit is getting old, and repetitive,and BOOOOOOORING.

I don't have a side. You mistakenly think I support the GOP. I do not. My side is the US Constitution. Is Obama the "worst ever"? That is subjective obviously. Has he grossly misused his Constitutional powers? Most definitely. Were a Republican doing half of what Obama has done you would be on fire.

I am not asking for impeachment and the GOP doesn't have the stomach for it. They will confine themselves to pummeling him daily the way the dems did Bush. Remember the "war crime" accusations hurled at Bush? Why no impeachment by the dems? Same reason. Politics.
 
Well... I DO have a side. I have concluded that governance in America is accomplished through politics, and politics in America is a team sport. I chose my team long ago based upon their philosophy and their platform. Until they change those things to thepoint where I don't believe in them anymore, I will be a democrat. Earlier in my career, after retiring from the Navy, I worked for democratic politicians at the state level. I made phone calls and rang doorbells. I wrote floor speeches and editorials. I drove voters to the polls and helped them cast their absentee ballots. Now that I am retired fully, and living out of the country, all I can do is contribute to their campaigns, pay my taxes, and chat about politics on message boards.
 
Maybe and maybe not. I still don't see how that is any of your business. How are they harming you?

How is your neighbor harming you other than illiciting your petty jealousy over what they have that you do not? For all you know they have part time jobs? Ever think of that? Maybe they sell shit on Ebay. Ever think of that? Maybe they have a side business. Ever think of that? Why do you assume that it is inheritance?

Maybe you should have Obama's IRS investigate them

I never said any of them were harming me.
 
then it really should be none of your business.

they are doing nothing illegal

they are not harming you

mind your own business. stay out of their bedroom

I'm interested and just because something is not harming me does not preclude me from knowing about it. In many circumstances it is my business.

I'm not in anyone's bedroom.
 
You can tell Superfreak is really smarting from the vicious skewering he took on this thread. he went to a thread I can't post on to hit me with what I'm sure passes for a "sizzling burn" in his mind. lol
 
You can tell Superfreak is really smarting from the vicious skewering he took on this thread. he went to a thread I can't post on to hit me with what I'm sure passes for a "sizzling burn" in his mind. lol

Seriously, that is hilarious!
 
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