40 more years of oil at current consumption rates.

"there are many reasons as you know SF, I'm going on funimentals 99.9% and .1% on this dem vs Repub debate"

All the more reason not to bring up that dumbass talking point that "dems are better for the market" :D
 
Why you trippin on that, I didn't bring it up on this thread. Was it even this board of the other one?
 
Superfreak said:
"Can you give me one example of something she is to the left of Bill Clinton on?"

1) Hillarycare

2) Free trade agreements
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So you think that Bill appointed her to come up with a health care plan because he disagreed with her on her basic ideas there? I doubt that.

And as for trade, SF, we live in a different country than we did when Bill shilled NAFTA. I don't think he could do it today, nor do I believe that Hillary is left on trade, i think she's making some noise to pander. But we now live in a country that has felt the effects of this "free trade" and it has NOT risen all boats, and that is not a leftist position, it's a populist one, and there are most certainly people in the Republican party who are not for these trade deals either. I mean R voters.
 
"Why you trippin on that, I didn't bring it up on this thread. Was it even this board of the other one?"

Just to give you crap.... and because I am evil like that.
 
"So you think that Bill appointed her to come up with a health care plan because he disagreed with her on her basic ideas there? I doubt that."

hmmm... honestly, I believe Bill to be the weaker of the two personalities. I think it was more her telling him she was going to create the plan and him saying... "yes, dear". :D

"And as for trade, SF, we live in a different country than we did when Bill shilled NAFTA. I don't think he could do it today,"

I disagree. If anything the global market improvements should be a sign that free trade works well.

"nor do I believe that Hillary is left on trade, i think she's making some noise to pander."

I disagree on the first part, agree on the second.

"But we now live in a country that has felt the effects of this "free trade" and it has NOT risen all boats, and that is not a leftist position, it's a populist one,"

But it is an incorrect position. Populist or not. Left or not.

"and there are most certainly people in the Republican party who are not for these trade deals either. I mean R voters."

True.... they are the isolationist types.... and they are wrong as well.
 
I'm not going to argue with you about trade, because honestly, you flat earthers are only going to get steam rolled in the coming years, because you do not hear the backlash, you do not see it, and you don't even understand its depth or reach.

But, I must point out that your hatred of Hillary is making you irrational, and this is why:

"nor do I believe that Hillary is left on trade, i think she's making some noise to pander."

I disagree on the first part, agree on the second.

that is completely nonsensical SF. If you believe that she IS left on trade, then she is NOT pandering by making noise about it now.

Please, put away the hate and think clearly.
 
Topspin said:
I think you a good guy usc just not must formal or any other kind of education.
You must care what I think a little, you keep coming back with your trailor trash eduction and throwing firecrackers and getting granades tossed back at you.
The mind is a terrible thing to waist, in your case it's just a terrible thing.:pke:
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My waist is 34" , does your educated mind mean Waste ?
 
Lmao...

uscitizen said:
USC I have some uneducated laborers working on the street that remind me of you too.

Poor spinner, you do not realize that an education does not a good person make.

Those uneducated laborers on the street work for you ?
Or is this some of your defeciency of your education showing ?

I really don't give a big rats ass what an elitist prick like you thinks spinner.
I deal with people not status symbols.
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Touche'...I think ya caught Toppy in his own trap...he hires 'Illegals'...cheap labor that can't complain!
 
"that is completely nonsensical SF. If you believe that she IS left on trade, then she is NOT pandering by making noise about it now. "

ahhh Darla... that is because you are looking at it from YOUR perspective. I believe she IS against free trade.... AND that she is pandering to the moderates by acting like she supports free trade.

Not that she is pandering to the left. :)
 
Not nice or cool....

Topspin said:
I think you a good guy usc just not must formal or any other kind of education.
You must care what I think a little, you keep coming back with your trailor trash eduction and throwing firecrackers and getting granades tossed back at you.
The mind is a terrible thing to waist, in your case it's just a terrible thing.:pke:
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'Toppy' get your egotistical head outta your silly ass...I for one have owned 'Mobile Homes' as well as houses with pools...we are not all born with 'Silver Spoons' up our proverbial asses...get a clue 'Harvard wannabee'
"I have Friends in low places"(a good song)..."Try it ya may like it Mickey'"or not! Some of my best friends were "Trailer Trash" as you put it....! Grow up Harvard Dude!
 
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"I'm not going to argue with you about trade, because honestly, you flat earthers are only going to get steam rolled in the coming years, because you do not hear the backlash, you do not see it, and you don't even understand its depth or reach."

Flat earthers? ROFLMAO... thanks I needed a laugh. So because I think a politician is being disingenous, I must be a neanderthal?

You are correct in that I don't believe the backlash is going to be nearly as hard as you seem to think. People are already souring on the Dem "leadership" in Congress.

I think the one good thing about President Bloomberg is the fact that we will finally have someone who can bitch slap both parties until they come back to face reality.
 
Superfreak said:
"I'm not going to argue with you about trade, because honestly, you flat earthers are only going to get steam rolled in the coming years, because you do not hear the backlash, you do not see it, and you don't even understand its depth or reach."

Flat earthers? ROFLMAO... thanks I needed a laugh. So because I think a politician is being disingenous, I must be a neanderthal?

You are correct in that I don't believe the backlash is going to be nearly as hard as you seem to think. People are already souring on the Dem "leadership" in Congress.

I think the one good thing about President Bloomberg is the fact that we will finally have someone who can bitch slap both parties until they come back to face reality.
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No, I was referencing the globalist bible "The world is flat" - Thomas Friedman. Not calling you a neanderthal.

Of course they are souring on Congress. They've done nothing to reign in bush, OR his war. You can believe that it has something to do with trade, if you want to.
 
Superfreak said:
"that is completely nonsensical SF. If you believe that she IS left on trade, then she is NOT pandering by making noise about it now. "

ahhh Darla... that is because you are looking at it from YOUR perspective. I believe she IS against free trade.... AND that she is pandering to the moderates by acting like she supports free trade.

Not that she is pandering to the left. :)
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You have no evidence to support that belief at all. I suppose she voted against CAFTA in order to fool the moderates into believe she is against trade? Doesn't it seem far more likely that she voted against it to pander to the D base for the primary? You are aware that traditionally candidates play to their bases in primaries and then move to the center in the general, aren't you?
 
"No, I was referencing the globalist bible "The world is flat" - Thomas Friedman. Not calling you a neanderthal."

Ahh... that makes more sense....

"Of course they are souring on Congress. They've done nothing to reign in bush, OR his war. You can believe that it has something to do with trade, if you want to."

Not at all. I just meant that the "backlash" wasnt going to be as harsh.
 
battle I'm yanking USC chain
but are you proudly proclaiming your white trashness no college degree and proud of if.
If so more power too ya, I hate to see the bowling alleys struggling.:clink:
 
"You have no evidence to support that belief at all. I suppose she voted against CAFTA in order to fool the moderates into believe she is against trade? Doesn't it seem far more likely that she voted against it to pander to the D base for the primary? You are aware that traditionally candidates play to their bases in primaries and then move to the center in the general, aren't you?"

No. I think she voted against CAFTA because that is how she believes and it was a closer vote down partisan lines. I think she was pandering to the moderates by voting for the trade agreement with Oman, because that vote was not as close and it gave her voting record a more moderate appearance.
 
Also Darla... yes, I am aware that generally politicians pander to their party during the primaries... but these votes were years ago... not recent.
 
The CAFTA vote was mid-05 SF. You think she didn't know she was running for President then?

Well, we will have to disagree on this one, I think.
 
No asshole...

Topspin said:
battle I'm yanking USC chain
but are you proudly proclaiming your white trashness no college degree and proud of if.
If so more power too ya, I hate to see the bowling alleys struggling.:clink:
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I was pointing out your nonsense...and sorry 'Charlie' I do have a degree..earned when it actuallly meant something...ya are a joke! nice backpeddeling though! If I am trash...so be it..but hey I served when called...and you??? and by the way 'idiot' I haven't bowled since I was sixteen...albeit it was fun...just not my venue...anymore elitist crap to throw out???
 
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