51st state - Washington DC

Think of it as a correction...
"Might makes right" is an old maxim just like "Fuck them if they don't like it". Life goes on, the world turns and, once again the Democrats will prove they are no better than the Republicans.
 
Gentrification will raise the tax levels so only the rich can afford to live there.

**DC IS ALREADY GENTRIFIED**.

And there aren't enough rich Republicans in the country to tip those scales.


All the burger flippers, janitors, maids and such will ride mass transit to work from Virginia or Maryland. There's a pretty strong correlation between income and political affiliation, especially when it comes to the wealthy.

So you actually have this backwards...because what happened was that the rich people left DC for the VA and MD suburbs, and that's why VA in particular is a Blue State and has been since 2008.

You're completely wrong on this and it's really fun to watch.

I don't believe you when you say you go to DC annually because if you did, you'd know enough about DC to know that it already is pretty much gentrified and has actually moved past that gentrification to relocating to the suburbs.

Why do you think Virginia has been Blue since 2008? THEY GENTRIFIED THE SUBURBS.

Now you would have us believe that there are going to be all these rich Republicans moving to DC because...it's a state? Huh? If they didn't move to DC before, they're not moving there now.
 
I can guarantee you that by 2022, no one is going to give a shit about your procedural nonsense if the Democrats end up passing $2K checks, COVID relief, and safely reopen the economy.

Conservatives would have to run against all that. Good luck arguing against $2K checks that ended up in people's wallets.

Translation: The Democrats will print money and throw it at their voters to buy their way into power.

Good luck, but that attitude never seems to last for long.
 
Hello Cypress,



Well, it's gonna be a challenge to come up with a flag but what the heck. Bring it on! I like the idea.

And Puerto Rico, too!

On 8 November 2020 Puerto Ricans voted on a referendum in which a majority favored statehood for the island.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnew...otes-favor-statehood-island/story?id=74055630

Puerto Ricans have been U.S. citizens for a century, and have fought and died in all of America's wars of the last 100 years.

There really is not any excuses to deny PR statehood.
 
I see no reason not to just add them to Maryland or Virginia, simply shrink the District to the WH, etc. and make the city part of Virginia.


Maybe you should read the thread before posting stupid shit.

DC statehood requires 51 votes.

Carving DC into VA requires 2/3rds of both chambers.

Shut up, stupid.
 
but if you figured that out then it doesn't work so why would I do it?

Because of your ego.


1, doesn't make sense.

Sure it does! You get tired of being dragged, so you just pretend to be someone else.


2, is a conspiracy theory.

Is it? Because you're not the only one who switches between IDs and likes your own posts (IBDaMann/GFM does the same thing)


3, this is anonymous so my ID isn't connected to this at all

Ah...yes...the anonymity. It's a shield you hide behind when you make wild claims about yourself because you know there's no way to verify whether or not these claims are true. And you refuse to verify any of the things you say about yourself, demanding I accommodate you so that you will be honest with me.

PASS.


4 again this is anonymous nobody has any credibility.

This response makes me think that the credibility question is your motivation.

You defend yourself here by calling me an anonymous nobody, but I'm not the one spinning tall tales about my personal given circumstances and how they relate to the topic being discussed.

That's all you, pal.


5, this is also conspiracy theory.

It's not a conspiracy theory if it's true...and this one certainly is true. You are a compulsive liar.


maybe you're just such a narcissist you don't think people can disagree with you. Without being in some plot against you.

Nah, I've been around the block on enough message boards to know a fraud when I see one.
 
"Might makes right" is an old maxim just like "Fuck them if they don't like it".

I believe the phrase is "fuck your feelings."

And I didn't come up with that phrase.


Life goes on, the world turns and, once again the Democrats will prove they are no better than the Republicans.

Well, lazy bOtHsIdErIsTs will inevitably try to bOtHsIdEs everything because they're naturally and habitually incapable of anything more than pure binary thinking.

The thing with you is that everyone has to lower their collective expectations of you because you've made it clear to everyone you're too lazy to make distinctions and differences.

That's a you problem.
 
Gentrification will raise the tax levels so only the rich can afford to live there. All the burger flippers, janitors, maids and such will ride mass transit to work from Virginia or Maryland. There's a pretty strong correlation between income and political affiliation, especially when it comes to the wealthy.

And that correlation is now higher income = Democrats.

The GOP has captured the uneducated, white rubes who believe in fairy tales and fake q-anon theories.

Keep up.
 
Translation: The Democrats will print money and throw it at their voters to buy their way into power.

I mean, Trump spent $30B trying to buy the votes of farmer trash...


Good luck, but that attitude never seems to last for long.

Historical context? Put your money where your mouth is. You keep ambiguously alluding to these things, but you stop short on explaining them. Why is that?
 
Translation: The Democrats will print money and throw it at their voters to buy their way into power.


Good luck, but that attitude never seems to last for long.


Are you even REMOTELY fucking aware of what the Republicans did to the deficit over the past 4 years before the pandemic, you hypocritical asshole? A $1.5 trillion handout to rich people.
 
I can guarantee you that by 2022, no one is going to give a shit about your procedural nonsense if the Democrats end up passing $2K checks, COVID relief, and safely reopen the economy.

Conservatives would have to run against all that. Good luck arguing against $2K checks that ended up in people's wallets.

Didn't work out too well for the GOP in Georgia, now did it?

True af.

Even all of these enraged Trumplicans who want to overthrow the government will suddenly be distracted by their jobs, their vacations, and their hunting seasons.
 
Are you even REMOTELY fucking aware of what the Republicans did to the deficit over the past 4 years before the pandemic, you hypocritical asshole? A $1.5 trillion handout to rich people.

He's aware, he's just being a contrarian troll because he needs the attention and accommodation to make him feel better for being called out as a lazy asshole.
 
I mean, Trump spent $30B trying to buy the votes of farmer trash...




Historical context? Put your money where your mouth is. You keep ambiguously alluding to these things, but you stop short on explaining them. Why is that?

Because nonsensical, pithy bullshit -- followed by a retreat -- is all he's capable of.
 
Even all of these enraged Trumplicans who want to overthrow the government will suddenly be distracted by their jobs, their vacations, and their hunting seasons.

If Bernie gets his wish and Medicare is expanded to everyone who doesn't have insurance for the duration of the pandemic, it's never going to be reversed.

We'll have M4A sooner rather than later.
 
Hello Dutch Uncle,
If it eventually turned big money Republican doesn't that underscore all that is corrupt with that party?

If you're concerned about a Democratic dominance, keep in mind that the Democratic party is a pretty slipshod collective of various factions. It could very well be that if the Republican party is not strong enough to stand up the Democratic party for a while that the progressives might split off from the Democratic party. We could go to a three or four party system, depending on whether Trump manages to really form a 'Patriot Party' (even though there actually already is one.)
LV426 advocates corrupting voters with money. Buying voters has always been all the rage in Washington DC just as this power play for two extra Senators is continuing business as usual in the Swamp. While there's an appeal to fill the Swamp with two more Senators then seeing what happens, it's just one bad decision following another from the Capital of the United States of America.

I'm not concerned about any particular party's dominance since all such groups are impermanent. Dominance leads to excess which leads to failure so another takes over and is dominant. Rinse, Repeat. The Story of Mankind. I find it very funny and so can others if they choose to do so.

When I was about 7 years old I made a parachute out of a bed sheet, tied four corners and leapt off my dependent's family housing duplex roof with complete faith it would work. Sure, I chose to do it from the corner of the roof over the yard rather than the driveway, but I had such faith in my parachute, I leapt as high as I could off the roof to make sure there was enough air under it to make it float like my toy soldier parachutes. About two seconds later I felt the pain of utter failure.

My knees jammed hard into my chest from the impact and that hurt, but what hurt more was the realization that it didn't work despite all my belief it would do so. Of course, if my dad or grandpa had been around to advise me, you know they would have said, "Kid, that ain't gonna work."

What I did learn, besides a very important lesson about gravity, was to be careful about having complete faith in a plan. Do your homework first. Ask for advice. The choice remains yours, but definitely get the opinions of solid, factual, reasonable people before putting your health or life on the line.

Dovetailing the two, the DC Senator Stacking Plan ain't gonna work. Probably not in the short term and, I have complete faith it won't work in the long term. I'd bet money on it.
 
No taxation without representation

'I am very grateful we have a new president' | DC mayor plans for statehood under Biden administration

Asked if she believes the new administration will quickly progress D.C. to become the 51st state, an effort Washington DC mayor Muriel Bowser has long championed, she seemed hopeful.

"We have Democratic control of the House of Representatives, the Senate and now the White House, and the leadership in all of those bodies have expressed support for D.C. Statehood," she said, adding that Joe Biden is a "longtime" supporter of the District becoming a state.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wu...ation/65-1d9b0e0f-6b77-4a2e-9587-cf00c4095573

That's a great idea. Let's trade DC for Hawai`i since Americans have no legal right to the Hawaiian islands anyway.
 
Buying voters has always been all the rage in Washington DC just as this power play for two extra Senators is continuing business as usual in the Swamp. While there's an appeal to fill the Swamp with two more Senators then seeing what happens, it's just one bad decision following another from the Capital of the United States of America..

Should be noted that Dutch Uncle here didn't vote for Biden or Clinton.
 
I'm not concerned about any particular party's dominance since all such groups are impermanent. Dominance leads to excess which leads to failure so another takes over and is dominant. Rinse, Repeat. The Story of Mankind. I find it very funny and so can others if they choose to do so.

This is passed off as sage wisdom but is really empty contrarianism from someone who, by his own admission, is disconnected from the political process.


When I was about 7 years old I made a parachute out of a bed sheet, tied four corners and leapt off my dependent's family housing duplex roof with complete faith it would work. Sure, I chose to do it from the corner of the roof over the yard rather than the driveway, but I had such faith in my parachute, I leapt as high as I could off the roof to make sure there was enough air under it to make it float like my toy soldier parachutes. About two seconds later I felt the pain of utter failure.

Sounds like you had pretty shitty parents. Maybe that explains why you're a shitty adult.


What I did learn, besides a very important lesson about gravity, was to be careful about having complete faith in a plan. Do your homework first. Ask for advice. The choice remains yours, but definitely get the opinions of solid, factual, reasonable people before putting your health or life on the line.

Comparing adult legislators to yourself as a 5-year old is more of that undemocratic bullshit BoThSiDeRiStS spout off for purely superficial and egotistical reasons.

Of course our legislators are not 5-year old children, and of course most of them don't believe in stupid fairy tales and bullshit.

But you sure seem to.


Dovetailing the two, the DC Senator Stacking Plan ain't gonna work. Probably not in the short term and, I have complete faith it won't work in the long term. I'd bet money on it.

By all means, please explain how Washington DC will be Red by 2028.
 
What this really boils down to for Dutch Uncle is that seeing Black people vote and win elections makes his whiteness feel less special, so he doesn't support DC statehood because of what it means for his personal ego.
 
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