A 50 State Laboratory For The Best Healthcare

Robo

Robo

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Now that the congressional Republicans have proven that they also don’t have a clue either how to write a healthcare plan that’s likely to lower healthcare cost and be a fair and useful program for America, one would think they’d break out a copy of the Constitution and see what role the Congress actually has in a healthcare program for all America.

Oh wait! If they did that they might discover that hundreds of political idiots in the People’s House and another 100 morons in the Senate actually have no constitutional authority to even be messing in an All American Healthcare program and their only constitutional authority over healthcare is to regulate the commerce thereof.

They might notice that healthcare for Americans is a State’s authority or an authority of the people themselves. The feds are actually forbidden by amendment 10 of our Constitution to have anything to do with healthcare except the regulation of commerce. They can legislate law making it illegal for any State to prohibit the buying and or selling of healthcare insurance across State lines or similar such actions.

America’s healthcare system should be a laboratory of States programs being designed by each State to relate specifically to the healthcare needs of the citizens of their particular State and thereby in doing so create plans that every State can learn from and find useful to design healthcare for their States citizens.
 
You are correct, Robo. I'd add that healthcare is a responsibility, not a right. And it's a responsibility for those that are capable of providing it for the few that can't, e.g. those with Down's Syndrome, FAS, CP, etc.
Since that scenario is politically incorrect, Moosecare (a free market solution to universal health care) is the only other viable option. Most anything else is only a half baked solution.
 
Robo said:
Now that the congressional Republicans have proven that they also don’t have a clue either how to write a healthcare plan that’s likely to lower healthcare cost and be a fair and useful program for America, one would think they’d break out a copy of the Constitution and see what role the Congress actually has in a healthcare program for all America.

Oh wait! If they did that they might discover that hundreds of political idiots in the People’s House and another 100 morons in the Senate actually have no constitutional authority to even be messing in an All American Healthcare program and their only constitutional authority over healthcare is to regulate the commerce thereof.

They might notice that healthcare for Americans is a State’s authority or an authority of the people themselves. The feds are actually forbidden by amendment 10 of our Constitution to have anything to do with healthcare except the regulation of commerce. They can legislate law making it illegal for any State to prohibit the buying and or selling of healthcare insurance across State lines or similar such actions.

America’s healthcare system should be a laboratory of States programs being designed by each State to relate specifically to the healthcare needs of the citizens of their particular State and thereby in doing so create plans that every State can learn from and find useful to design healthcare for their States citizens.
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General Welfare clause.
 
domer76 said:
General Welfare clause.
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The commies always back their commie rackets with the "general welfare" clause. As you should be able to determine by reading the following if your honest and sane, the general welfare clause would trump the entire Constitution and make it all a waste of ink and a contradictory joke if it were as you wish it were. Thomas Jefferson debunks your tyranny with the following observation.

Thomas Jefferson Opinion on Constitutional Interpretation Date: February 15, 1791

“They are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare , but only to lay taxes for that purpose. To consider the latter phrase not as describing the purpose of the first, but as giving a distinct and independent power to do any act they please which may be good for the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless. It would reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and as they sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please . . . . Certainly no such universal power was meant to be given them. It was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect.”
 
Robo said:
The commies always back their commie rackets with the "general welfare" clause. As you should be able to determine by reading the following if your honest and sane, the general welfare clause would trump the entire Constitution and make it all a waste of ink and a contradictory joke if it were as you wish it were. Thomas Jefferson debunks your tyranny with the following observation.

Thomas Jefferson Opinion on Constitutional Interpretation Date: February 15, 1791

“They are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare , but only to lay taxes for that purpose. To consider the latter phrase not as describing the purpose of the first, but as giving a distinct and independent power to do any act they please which may be good for the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless. It would reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and as they sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please . . . . Certainly no such universal power was meant to be given them. It was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect.”
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Now there you go trying to educate the uneducable.
 
Robo said:
The commies always back their commie rackets with the "general welfare" clause. As you should be able to determine by reading the following if your honest and sane, the general welfare clause would trump the entire Constitution and make it all a waste of ink and a contradictory joke if it were as you wish it were. Thomas Jefferson debunks your tyranny with the following observation.

Thomas Jefferson Opinion on Constitutional Interpretation Date: February 15, 1791

“They are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare , but only to lay taxes for that purpose. To consider the latter phrase not as describing the purpose of the first, but as giving a distinct and independent power to do any act they please which may be good for the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless. It would reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and as they sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please . . . . Certainly no such universal power was meant to be given them. It was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect.”
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Asswipe, Tom Jefferson said something about about all men being created equal, while, at the same time owning slaves. So, good for Tom. He's dead now and has been for almost 200 years. Get your head out of his ass and out of the 18th century ground and take a look at today's reality.
 
domer76 said:
Asswipe, Tom Jefferson said something about about all men being created equal, while, at the same time owning slaves. So, good for Tom. He's dead now and has been for almost 200 years. Get your head out of his ass and out of the 18th century ground and take a look at today's reality.
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Well then commie, if I and Jefferson are wrong, you then can explain to the class what the Congress "CAN'T" do in the name of the general welfare and trump every other article, clause and amendment in the Constitution "reducing it to a single clause" as I and Jefferson argue, right commie?
 
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Robo said:
Well then commie, if I and Jefferson are wrong, you then can explain to the class what the Congress "CAN'T" do in the name of the general welfare and trump every other article, clause and amendment in the Constitution "reducing it to a single clause" as I and Jefferson argue, right commie?
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This topic, weaselshit, is about healthcare. Of any issue that relates to general welfare of the population, this is it. Inceasing longevity. HEALTHY longevity. Reducing disease. Promoting wellness of our citizens. Access to healthcare that doesn't bankrupt families.
 
It should have been clear back in 2010 when the only way Obama could keep his disaster of a healthcare plan alive in the courts was to legally call it a TAX.

Government in our healthcare, just like with government in our everything else ultimately leads to failure due the cost over runs, bureaucracy, theft through the subsidies..you name it.
obamacare will fall, and it will be replaced with something.

Dems own a lemon, and had better get busy trying to find a way to make lemonade
 
domer76 said:
General Welfare clause.
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should be invoked to provide every 16 year old with a new car, every 22 year old a new home (after 4 years mandatory military service), and every 26 year old who isn't already married with a mail order bride to pro-create ensuring the propagation of the species.
 
domer76 said:
Asswipe, Tom Jefferson said something about about all men being created equal, while, at the same time owning slaves. So, good for Tom. He's dead now and has been for almost 200 years. Get your head out of his ass and out of the 18th century ground and take a look at today's reality.
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then write a brand new constitution you stupid fuck, then get it ratified.
 
coolbreeze said:
It should have been clear back in 2010 when the only way Obama could keep his disaster of a healthcare plan alive in the courts was to legally call it a TAX.

Government in our healthcare, just like with government in our everything else ultimately leads to failure due the cost over runs, bureaucracy, theft through the subsidies..you name it.
obamacare will fall, and it will be replaced with something.

Dems own a lemon, and had better get busy trying to find a way to make lemonade
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Vlad has you convinced...doesn't he...
 
domer76 said:
This topic, weaselshit, is about healthcare. Of any issue that relates to general welfare of the population, this is it. Inceasing longevity. HEALTHY longevity. Reducing disease. Promoting wellness of our citizens. Access to healthcare that doesn't bankrupt families.
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Just grow some balls and integrity commie and admit that you can't answer my last post. Here commie, I'll try again. if I and Jefferson are wrong about your interpretation of the general welfare clause, then surely you can tell the class WHAT the Congress, i.e. the feds, CAN'T do in the name of the general welfare and thereby reduce the entire Constitution to a single "general welfare" clause, right commie? Have at it commie, or crawl under your rock and hide.
 
Robo said:
Just grow some balls and integrity commie and admit that you can't answer my last post. Here commie, I'll try again. if I and Jefferson are wrong about your interpretation of the general welfare clause, then surely you can tell the class WHAT the Congress, i.e. the feds, CAN'T do in the name of the general welfare and thereby reduce the entire Constitution to a single "general welfare" clause, right commie? Have at it commie, or crawl under your rock and hide.
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lol

I always have to laugh at your 1950s commie bullshit. What are you, 105 or so?

Congress has the authority, fucktard, to pass any law they wish. It then becomes the responsibility of the other two branches, bitch, to veto or not or to decide in the constitutionality of said law.

Commie? Get that Alzheimer's drug old man. It can only help.
 
domer76 said:
lol

I always have to laugh at your 1950s commie bullshit. What are you, 105 or so?

Congress has the authority, fucktard, to pass any law they wish. It then becomes the responsibility of the other two branches, bitch, to veto or not or to decide in the constitutionality of said law.

Commie? Get that Alzheimer's drug old man. It can only help.
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Poor Bobo
 
domer76 said:
Congress has the authority, fucktard, to pass any law they wish. It then becomes the responsibility of the other two branches, bitch, to veto or not or to decide in the constitutionality of said law.
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it's called 'jury nullification', dipshit. another inalienable right you refuse to acknowledge
 
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