A CASE FOR REPARATIONS!

Which is why TTQ64 will ignore it lol.

It's a ignorant questions.

Can't have a serious discussion with someone who can't/wont understand the topic.

You obviously can't comprehend what reparations are about so please post your ignorance to someone else.
 
I tell you what,if I get some of the forum members together and we buy you 40 acres and a mule,will you STFU about reparations?

You obviously can't comprehend what reparations are about so please post your ignorance to someone else.
 
It's a ignorant questions.

Can't have a serious discussion with someone who can't/wont understand the topic.

You obviously can't comprehend what reparations are about so please post your ignorance to someone else.

In other words, you don't like the answer so won't. What an ignorant biatch you are. Must be poor, wanting free shit from Whitey.
 
I tell you what,if I get some of the forum members together and we buy you 40 acres and a mule,will you STFU about reparations?

Fuck. I will pay for the whole thing. No way are you going to see Wheezy growing her own crops behind a mule.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
And pray tell, what was the actual raw number of black slave owners in the nearly 300 years of legal slavery in America? Because if the Native Americans apply your "logic", you're toast.


The point being, 'Reparations' is a nice bumper sticker type slogan, sounds great, and sounds 'sincere'. But, how do you come up with a solution?

The point being is that you and your ilk always default to this part of American history as some sort of half assed attempt to justify slavery and/or negate civil rights moves (past & present), much less the discussion of slavery....and you fail every time, because when challenged you change the subject real fast.

It's like this, genius....reparations actually was tried for a brief time just before and after the end of the Civil War...only to be thwarted by the bitter Southern losers (see the rise of the KKK). Do your homework.

As for my "solution", here's what I wrote earlier: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...A-CASE-FOR-REPARATIONS!&p=3117406#post3117406
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
you know, only a complete intellectually impotent bigoted bumpkin would make such an asinine opening sentence in lieu of America's, England's, Spain's & Portugal's DOCUMENTED history (documented by their own accord, don't cha know). That pretty much negates anything else you babble.

I only mentioned that because some of our negro friends seem to be under the impression 'Slavery', was only practiced in America, and only occurred with African negroes.


You're a bigot AND a liar Jack....No one on this thread has declared what you suggest....and I defy you to link to where they did. Bottom line is that your sheet wearing behind (metaphorically speaking) is getting handed to you and you don't like it....so much so is that you've deteriorated to using clinical terms regarding black Americans. Funny that, as I have yet to see you refer to yourself and your brethren as Caucasian Americans. Carry on.
 
The point being is that you and your ilk always default to this part of American history as some sort of half assed attempt to justify slavery and/or negate civil rights moves (past & present), much less the discussion of slavery....and you fail every time, because when challenged you change the subject real fast.

It's like this, genius....reparations actually was tried for a brief time just before and after the end of the Civil War...only to be thwarted by the bitter Southern losers (see the rise of the KKK). Do your homework.

As for my "solution", here's what I wrote earlier: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...A-CASE-FOR-REPARATIONS!&p=3117406#post3117406

"If, by some quirk of Fate and God, reparations did pass through Congress, ONLY A TINY FRACTION of the American black population would be entitled to receipt. This is because (a) lineage to a slave family or person would have to be firmly established (b) a company or corporate records would have to exist to establish ownership (c) said company or corporation would have to exist to this day."

I would think most Blacks in America could trace Family members as 'Slaves', not many paid to come here as Pioneers or Colonists.

I would also think 'Ownership' would be by Plantation Owners. (Thomas Jefferson being a prominent slave owner) Not so much 'Corporations'.

Having a Discussion about how to solve 'Inequality', would seem more 'American', than 'Reparations', which just seems to be more a "Send me a Check" by our African friends.
 
You're a bigot AND a liar Jack....No one on this thread has declared what you suggest....and I defy you to link to where they did. Bottom line is that your sheet wearing behind (metaphorically speaking) is getting handed to you and you don't like it....so much so is that you've deteriorated to using clinical terms regarding black Americans. Funny that, as I have yet to see you refer to yourself and your brethren as Caucasian Americans. Carry on.

Most Americans refer to themselves as 'Americans'. While I notice a segment of the Population refers to themselves as 'African-Americans', as though they just arrived here and still retain their original heritage. For those that feel 'African', I could support a One Way ticket back to the 'Motherland'.
I noticed you used 'black Americans', I applaud you for that.
 
I'm a descendant of those who fought to free them. Pay up!

You're a lying SOS who doesn't have the intellectual courage to own up to losing a point in a discussion. Let me empty your gas bag, bunky…..for years fools like you argued that the slavery issue in the Civil War was an after thought, claiming that the slaves didn't really contribute much to the Confederate states economy ( :whoa: I know, dear reader....it boogles the mind that these fools actually believe their revisionist bilge can pass for historical fact....so much more to pity them), and that some Northern states participated in the slave trade. So in effect, you contradict your own argument as to the main reasons for the Civil War (the "war of aggression" as die hard Confederacy lovers call it). or why your great grand pappy fought in it. Oh, and for your education...your grand pappy had gov't compensation/assistance as a vet...so reparations weren't needed....for him or for your dumb ass. https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/civil-war-pensions.html
 
You're a lying SOS who doesn't have the intellectual courage to own up to losing a point in a discussion. Let me empty your gas bag, bunky…..for years fools like you argued that the slavery issue in the Civil War was an after thought, claiming that the slaves didn't really contribute much to the Confederate states economy ( :whoa: I know, dear reader....it boogles the mind that these fools actually believe their revisionist bilge can pass for historical fact....so much more to pity them), and that some Northern states participated in the slave trade. So in effect, you contradict your own argument as to the main reasons for the Civil War (the "war of aggression" as die hard Confederacy lovers call it). or why your great grand pappy fought in it. Oh, and for your education...your grand pappy had gov't compensation/assistance as a vet...so reparations weren't needed....for him or for your dumb ass. https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/civil-war-pensions.html

RB60 makes an interesting point. Should the ex-slaves pay the Northern White People that set them free?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
and does that go for single, unwed white female mothers? They're the majority of welfare recipients, ya know.


And they aren’t asking for reparations .....

True enough but YOU made the stupid comparison of reparations and welfare...making the false assumption that all black folk who would receive reparations (if granted by Congress and systematically worked out and distributed) are on welfare....insinuating that the majority of black Americans are on welfare. :rolleyes:

Here's your homework assignment: Look into the reparations for Japanese Americans put into internment camps during WWII. Or those given to certain Native American tribes. get back to me when you're up to speed.
 
True enough but YOU made the stupid comparison of reparations and welfare...making the false assumption that all black folk who would receive reparations (if granted by Congress and systematically worked out and distributed) are on welfare....insinuating that the majority of black Americans are on welfare. :rolleyes:

Here's your homework assignment: Look into the reparations for Japanese Americans put into internment camps during WWII. Or those given to certain Native American tribes. get back to me when you're up to speed.

Do your own homework ...

The black population: At 41.6 percent, blacks were more likely to participate in government assistance programs in an average month.
o The black participation rate was followed by Hispanics at 36.4 percent, Asians or Pacific
Islanders at 17.8 percent, and non-Hispanic whites at 13.2 percent.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
If, by some quirk of Fate and God, reparations did pass through Congress, ONLY A TINY FRACTION of the American black population would be entitled to receipt. This is because (a) lineage to a slave family or person would have to be firmly established (b) a company or corporate records would have to exist to establish ownership (c) said company or corporation would have to exist to this day.

But I do applaud bringing this subject up from time to time, because it exposes the congenital racism and bigotry that exists in America....and leans to a discussion where such blatant examples of this mindset occur in present society.


I hope your not excluding yourself from this?

You don't seem to understand the effects that slaver has on Black America today.

To think that only actual proven decendants of slaves can get reparations is comical. It's not only decendants of slaves who are locked up in private prisons, who are still being oppressed, and discriminated against.

Seriously? Did I deny the effects of nearly 400 years of systemic racism born of nearly 2 centuries of slavery? Nope. I'm merely pointing out a FACT as to how things work in our current state of society and government. Hell, the OP indirectly concurs with me by acknowledging alternatives to the original monetary/land/animal offering.

Read what I put to the bigoted cabal that regularly show up when black folk point to the congenital racism and bigotry in the country, and how it's failed on it's promises historically. Note Japanese got theirs relatively easy because of direct line of cause and effect and relatively a small group of people. Native Americans despite documents, treaties, etc., are a hit and miss, and we (black folk) aren't getting squat because, let's face it, you had hatred against people who were considered less than human breeding on this land before it became a country. That being said, I wager (IMHO) that what I previously stated is about the only way it's going to happen....if it happens at all. But keep the faith, baby!
 
You personally don't have a penny coming to you!
You're not a victim!

Tell that the black folk who got screwed in the recent Wall St. related debacles by banks using predatory loan tactics. Or folks that get red lined in the real estate market. Hell, half the clowns who got GI bill gifts never saw combat or left the main land! You're not in charge of the banks or federal reserve or congress...hell, you don't even have a grasp of social history.

It would be interesting if the financial equivalent of 40 acres & a mule were awarded to black folk when they could prove in court that racism and/or bigotry was the root cause in whatever case was brought before the bench. Bet you'd bitch about that too!
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
The point being is that you and your ilk always default to this part of American history as some sort of half assed attempt to justify slavery and/or negate civil rights moves (past & present), much less the discussion of slavery....and you fail every time, because when challenged you change the subject real fast.

It's like this, genius....reparations actually was tried for a brief time just before and after the end of the Civil War...only to be thwarted by the bitter Southern losers (see the rise of the KKK). Do your homework.

As for my "solution", here's what I wrote earlier: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...06#post3117406



"If, by some quirk of Fate and God, reparations did pass through Congress, ONLY A TINY FRACTION of the American black population would be entitled to receipt. This is because (a) lineage to a slave family or person would have to be firmly established (b) a company or corporate records would have to exist to establish ownership (c) said company or corporation would have to exist to this day."

I would think most Blacks in America could trace Family members as 'Slaves', not many paid to come here as Pioneers or Colonists.

I would also think 'Ownership' would be by Plantation Owners. (Thomas Jefferson being a prominent slave owner) Not so much 'Corporations'.

Having a Discussion about how to solve 'Inequality', would seem more 'American', than 'Reparations', which just seems to be more a "Send me a Check" by our African friends.

For your education: https://atlantablackstar.com/2013/08/26/17-major-companies-never-knew-benefited-slavery/

So if I trace my family lineage to a former slave, and the records showed who bought and sold that person(s) ,,,,gee, ever notice what good little note takers Nazi's and racist slavers were?,,,,,,and reparations passes Congress, then said company/corporation/business pays up. Got that, bunky?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
You're a bigot AND a liar Jack....No one on this thread has declared what you suggest....and I defy you to link to where they did. Bottom line is that your sheet wearing behind (metaphorically speaking) is getting handed to you and you don't like it....so much so is that you've deteriorated to using clinical terms regarding black Americans. Funny that, as I have yet to see you refer to yourself and your brethren as Caucasian Americans. Carry on.



Most Americans refer to themselves as 'Americans'. While I notice a segment of the Population refers to themselves as 'African-Americans', as though they just arrived here and still retain their original heritage. For those that feel 'African', I could support a One Way ticket back to the 'Motherland'.
I noticed you used 'black Americans', I applaud you for that.

1. You declared that there are those on this thread who either claim or imply or insinuated that America was the only place on Earth that had slavery. I called you out to show the readers who said that and where via a link or a given post number. You can't....that makes YOU A LIAR AND AN INTELLECTUAL COWARD.

2. I called you out for your antiquated, dated and clinical term for black Americans...which came only after getting your pseudo-intellectual butt handed to you in a discussion. You did this out of frustration of a loser, then double down with some bigoted babbling found in the screeds of Limbaugh and Duke and the like.

Keep it up, bunky. You're just supporting my points.
 
Do your own homework ...

The black population: At 41.6 percent, blacks were more likely to participate in government assistance programs in an average month.
o The black participation rate was followed by Hispanics at 36.4 percent, Asians or Pacific
Islanders at 17.8 percent, and non-Hispanic whites at 13.2 percent.


Oh jeez, another David Duke wanna be with delusions of intellectualism.


YOU made the statements, genius...the burden of proof is on YOU!


what's this "more likely" BS, toodles. If you got the stats, you have the raw numbers. Let's see the sources of your material....whom is stating what and when. Surely you learned that much in jr. high. I'll wait.
 
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