A Conservative Case for Gay Marriage - Promoting American Values

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Yurt said:
i think the argument re: it occurs in nature is weak

i've seen countless dogs start humping people's legs, stuff toys, the cat....does that mean its natural for us to start humping people's legs, stuffed animals and the cat?
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I really don't care if you find it weak. It doesn't change the fact that it is natural to find a wide variety of species that exhibit the same behavior. This does not mean we will share every behavioral characteristic.
 
Yurt said:
SM:

i don't know if i've asked you this before, other than religious reasons, what are you reasons to deny gay marriage?
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Because he fantasizes about participating in such acts and is ashamed. Thus, he lashes out at those who are openly displaying their willingness to do what he only dreams about.
 
Superfreak said:
I really don't care if you find it weak. It doesn't change the fact that it is natural to find a wide variety of species that exhibit the same behavior. This does not mean we will share every behavioral characteristic.
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ok...then surely you support the "natural" behavior to boff one's cat, if the dog does it, its natural!
 
Superfreak said:
Because he fantasizes about participating in such acts and is ashamed. Thus, he lashes out at those who are openly displaying their willingness to do what he only dreams about.
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:good4u:

Ok, you paid me back for the laughs about McCoy/Tebow.
 
Superfreak said:
It is abnormal given that the majority are heterosexual.

It is only immoral to YOU and those who think like YOU. You do not have the right to dictate YOUR moralities on others, just as a gay person does not have the right to force you to believe that 'gay is ok'.

It is not unnatural. It occurs in numerous species on this planet. If it were 'choice' then this would not occur. Too many species that exhibit gay behavior do not possess the cognitive ability to 'choose' to be gay.

It is no more unhealthy than heterosexuality.
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Its immoral because the Bible says its immoral. The Bible is the unyielding benchmark of morality and I didn't write it.

It doesn't occur natural in other species. There's no peer reviewed evidence to suggest otherwise.

It is unhealthy the same way that heterosexual sodomy is unhealthy. Plus queers are much more apt to have multiple partners and casual relations.
 
Southern Man said:
Its immoral because the Bible says its immoral. The Bible is the unyielding benchmark of morality and I didn't write it.

It doesn't occur natural in other species. There's no peer reviewed evidence to suggest otherwise.

It is unhealthy the same way that heterosexual sodomy is unhealthy. Plus queers are much more apt to have multiple partners and casual relations.
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so the bible alone should guide our laws in this country?

should people with std's not be allowed to marry?
 
Southern Man said:
1. Immoral.
2. Unnatural.
3. Unhealthy.
4. The children.
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there are numerous immoral hetrosexual marriages.

according to you, blowjobs are unnatural

unhealthy hetrosexuals marry all the time

children can fall victim to abuse, neglect etc in a hetro sexual marriage

next?
 
Its great how this issue brings together most of the Conservatives and all of the liberals. This is the one issue we have the largest amount of agreement on... I believe.
 
Yurt said:
there are numerous immoral hetrosexual marriages.

according to you, blowjobs are unnatural

unhealthy hetrosexuals marry all the time

children can fall victim to abuse, neglect etc in a hetro sexual marriage

next?
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1. Irrelevant.
2. Irrelevant.
3. Irrelevant.
4. Irrelevant.
 
Southern Man said:
Its immoral because the Bible says its immoral. The Bible is the unyielding benchmark of morality and I didn't write it.

It doesn't occur natural in other species. There's no peer reviewed evidence to suggest otherwise.

It is unhealthy the same way that heterosexual sodomy is unhealthy. Plus queers are much more apt to have multiple partners and casual relations.
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This is an example of how some social Conservatives want to limit freedom for the private lives of Americans.
 
Southern Man said:
Its immoral because the Bible says its immoral. The Bible is the unyielding benchmark of morality and I didn't write it.

It doesn't occur natural in other species. There's no peer reviewed evidence to suggest otherwise.

It is unhealthy the same way that heterosexual sodomy is unhealthy. Plus queers are much more apt to have multiple partners and casual relations.
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Biblical morality is not a basis for laws in this country.

Doesn't occur in other species? Wrong.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html

If you are going to disallow gay marriage based on your perception that sodomy is so unhealthy, what of straights enjoying sodomy? It is not illegal and avoiding it is not a prerequisite of straight marriages.

The fact that you claim that gays are more likely to have multiple partners is completely worthless in this debate. The fact that we are discussing gay marriage shoots down the issue of multiple partners.
 
Do you see what I mean about social conservatives wanting to run the private lives of Americans?
 
Southern Man said:
Marriage takes a private relationship public, dummy.
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Not so, plenty of unmarried people are very public about the relationship and plenty of married people are very private about the relationship. The decision to get married is a private one!
 
Jarod said:
Not so, plenty of unmarried people are very public about the relationship and plenty of married people are very private about the relationship. The decision to get married is a private one!
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Marriage is a public affirmation of a relationship; a contract.
 
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