the courts accept the facts no matter how hard you run from them assmouth
Greenland set the record for coldest July temperature ever reported in the Northern Hemisphere at -33C. However you won't see any mention of that in the NYT, WaPo, the BBC or the Guardian. Who will be the first to tell me that weather is not climate?I've heard of the melt disrupting the thermohaline circulation (conveyor belt) but last I heard, about 6 or 7 years ago maybe there was no evidence of disruption and it remained conjecture.
I just googled for some insight on disruption but wikipedia was citing Peter Wadhams, LOL that's the guy who questioned the deaths of fellow scientists as possibly the work of big oil.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ED-astonishing-claim-Cambridge-professor.html
I haven't really studied this topic
Corazón, so true, you still smoking two packs a day? And I was glad to hear you used asbestos in all your rooms, don't worry about the dust, it won't harm you. You're a real man tough and you don't believe in science either. Go get em.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7799004-merchants-of-doubt
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You are wasting your time trying to argue logically with people like him.
One of the articles of faith of the new despotism is that climate change is caused by human activity. It has to be an article of faith because there is no objective testable proof that this is the case, which is the normal requirement in science.
We are told instead that there is a‘consensus' or a‘vast majority' in favour of this belief. But scientific questions are not decided by majorities. They are decided by hard empirical evidence and experiments, repeatedly verified.
Precisely because it is a religious-like faith rather than a fact, a special intolerant fury is turned on any who publicly doubt it as can be seen here. What you are witnessing is scientology not science in action.
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Not at all. "Consensus" doesn't prove anything in science. Google 'scientific method' and you'll see nothing about consensus driving a hypothesis into theory, much less consensus driving a theory into a law.
“Details that could throw doubt on your interpretation must be given, if you know
them. You must do the best you can—if you know anything at all wrong, or possibly
wrong—to explain it.” - Richard Feynman
What theory are you talking about? If it's AGW, it's a hypothesis that has never been repeatable enough to become a theory. There may be a consensus on the hypothesis but that's irrelevant. The hypothesis test must be predictably repeatable to be a theory.
Some exceptions??? Countless. The consensus in medicine was to use leeches to blood-let for the cure of most anything. There was a consensus we had reached peak oil in 1970.
Off hand I can think of three things in particular that I was forced to regurgitate on tests in school that would be considered heresy today and malpractice if used.
I've already presented the credentials of Ligates. Yes he very much is in the field of climate study. As far as the 'field of climate study', it's an amalgam of different fields.
Holy fuck, the late great Richard Feynman would have a field day laying into all the Cargo Cult science surrounding AGW. Fortunately we do have the likes of Freeman Dyson, the greatest living physicist and Richard Lindzen whose book Dynamics in Atmospheric Physics has become a standard textbook.Not at all. "Consensus" doesn't prove anything in science. Google 'scientific method' and you'll see nothing about consensus driving a hypothesis into theory, much less consensus driving a theory into a law.
“Details that could throw doubt on your interpretation must be given, if you know
them. You must do the best you can—if you know anything at all wrong, or possibly
wrong—to explain it.” - Richard Feynman
What theory are you talking about? If it's AGW, it's a hypothesis that has never been repeatable enough to become a theory. There may be a consensus on the hypothesis but that's irrelevant. The hypothesis test must be predictably repeatable to be a theory.
Some exceptions??? Countless. The consensus in medicine was to use leeches to blood-let for the cure of most anything. There was a consensus we had reached peak oil in 1970.
Off hand I can think of three things in particular that I was forced to regurgitate on tests in school that would be considered heresy today and malpractice if used.
I've already presented the credentials of Ligates. Yes he very much is in the field of climate study. As far as the 'field of climate study', it's an amalgam of different fields.
Richard Tol has contributed to the IPCC and is scathing about the nonsensus in that infamous John Cook study.Garbage
They are not decided by majorities, but they are confirmed or proven incorrect by the studies of others, you act as if the 97% usually quoted is the entity in itself rather than the survey of literature on the topic
Now you can add all your adolescent personal crap to cover your shortcomings
This is way above their paygrades, you do know that don't you? See post 92.The AMO is roughly about 60 year cycle. 30 warming, 30 cooling. It's a build up of warm layers that get trapped beneath cooler water in the Atlantic (Cooling phase... due to difference in the density fresher vs saltier) and it get released (some point is reached where the warm water builds sufficiently)and warms the surface (warm phase) leading to warming of the continents. The Pacific does the same thing but on shorter time scales. The PDO
These are the Atlantic Multi-decadal Oscillation, and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation
So which one of the four Representative Concentration Pathways (RCPs), outlined by the IPCC AR5 do you ascribe to and why?Garbage
They are not decided by majorities, but they are confirmed or proven incorrect by the studies of others, you act as if the 97% usually quoted is the entity in itself rather than the survey of literature on the topic
Now you can add all your adolescent personal crap to cover your shortcomings
Y. The default setting of any true scientist should be constant scepticism, especially when confronted with theories backed up with very little empirical evidence.
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Disagree. Look at this post in response to mine:You are wasting your time trying to argue logically with people like him.
The first sentence makes no sense, the second is patently false (6, really? lol) and the first part of the third doesn't rebut the any content, and the second part of the third makes no sense. "the other guy's geologist?" WTF is that?So then how does one define Science, seemingly according to you it is the last PHD
Of course exceptions exist, they exist in anything, even a broken clock is correct twice a day, silly to cite half of dozen over the course of mankind and generalize that that makes any consensus irrelevant
And your guy is a physicist, which is a step up from the other guy's geologist he keeps citing
Even if that 97% BS were true and unbiased the statement is patently false. It is not a "survey of literature on the topic" , it's a survey of the beliefs of authors.you act as if the 97% usually quoted is the entity in itself rather than the survey of literature on the topic
Perhaps, but then again, YOU AREN'T ONE. And neither are we. So the default setting should be deference to the vast and overwhelming consensus of those who are, dumbass.
You have a chemistry degree from back in the stone ages and worked in IT according to you own unverifiable CV you gave here. You aren't a climate scientist at all. And no amount of blogging will EVER make you one.![]()
Disagree. Look at this post in response to mine:
The first sentence makes no sense, the second is patently false (6, really? lol) and the first part of the third doesn't rebut the any content, and the second part of the third makes no sense. "the other guy's geologist?" WTF is that?
This is pure babble.
Also read this:
Even if that 97% BS were true and unbiased the statement is patently false. It is not a "survey of literature on the topic" , it's a survey of the beliefs of authors.
I've never seen one article that actually concludes GW is caused by human activity. I'm sure one exists, just never seen it.
And because of fools who deny this, we are behind the game in dealing with it.Let's cut all the BS and just deal with this:
- only a complete idiot would try and tell you that several CENTURIES of GLORBAL deforestation and urbanization coupled with increasing industrial waste emissions has little to no effect on the environment.
- no one is denying that the Earth has natural cycles of cooling and warming....the point here is that mankind has ARTIFICIALLY INDUCED elements into the mix that is having increased detrimental effects.
Yet paradoxically, the increase in atmospheric CO2 has resulted in a truly extraordinary re-greening effect. This is especially true in desert and arid areas of the planet.Let's cut all the BS and just deal with this:
- only a complete idiot would try and tell you that several CENTURIES of GLORBAL deforestation and urbanization coupled with increasing industrial waste emissions has little to no effect on the environment.
- no one is denying that the Earth has natural cycles of cooling and warming....the point here is that mankind has ARTIFICIALLY INDUCED elements into the mix that is having increased detrimental effects.
Yet paradoxically, the increase in atmospheric CO2 has resulted in a truly extraordinary re-greening effect. This is especially true in desert and arid areas of the planet.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/10/the-world-is-getting-greener-why-does-no-one-want-to-know/
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