A new Russian-Finnish war is coming

[PostmodernProphet]

We can start with the very famous (as U should know) Napoleon example.....America is just the latest example.

Everyone who does it loses.

But the Finns R morons.

I think you are actually stupid enough to think its happened.........Georgia did not attack Russia......Croatia did not attack Russia...Ukraine did not attack Russia......certainly Biden didn't attack Russia......

 

[Hawkeye10]

I think you are actually stupid enough to think its happened.........Georgia did not attack Russia......Croatia did not attack Russia...Ukraine did not attack Russia......certainly Biden didn't attack Russia......

The Ukraine war was demanded by NATO in an effort to weaken Russia, remove Putin, resume the rape of Russia, and to demonstrate NATO dominance.....as has been admitted in the west over and over again.

It has all turned to shit...NATO and the West are circling the drain.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The Ukraine war was demanded by NATO in an effort to weaken Russia, remove Putin, resume the rape of Russia, and to demonstrate NATO dominance.....as has been admitted in the west over and over again.

It has all turned to shit...NATO and the West are circling the drain.

I'm sorry you've gone chin deep into insanity......meanwhile.....nothing you've posted is even remotely true......I suspect something in your grapevine got misinterpreted between the Mandarin version and the English version.....

 

[Alik Bahshi]

We can start with the very famous (as U should know) Napoleon example.....America is just the latest example.

Everyone who does it loses.

My dear, you don't know history. Firstly, Russia was the first to attack Napoleon and lost in the first battle, which is known as the Battle of Austerlitz in 1805, and having a superior number of soldiers. The next Battle of Borodino in 1812 was already in Russia, Napoleon also won, and the Russian army fled, leaving Moscow to Napoleon. The Russians no longer dared to engage in battle with Napoleon. In general, the Russians did not win any war except World War II, and even then in a coalition with America and Great Britain. Russia lost the First World War to Germany, losing its colonies in Europe. The Russians were defeated in the Crimean War of 1853-1856. Russia lost to Japan in the 1905 war. Russia lost the war to Poland in 1920. The Russian army had to leave Afghanistan. Russia has been waging a war for Ukraine for the second year without much success, and there is a high probability that it will lose it as well as the war in Afghanistan. Learn history before you talk nonsense.

 

[Hawkeye10]

My dear, you don't know history. Firstly, Russia was the first to attack Napoleon and lost in the first battle, which is known as the Battle of Austerlitz in 1805, and having a superior number of soldiers. The next Battle of Borodino in 1812 was already in Russia, Napoleon also won, and the Russian army fled, leaving Moscow to Napoleon. The Russians no longer dared to engage in battle with Napoleon. In general, the Russians did not win any war except World War II, and even then in a coalition with America and Great Britain. Russia lost the First World War to Germany, losing its colonies in Europe. The Russians were defeated in the Crimean War of 1853-1856. Russia lost to Japan in the 1905 war. Russia lost the war to Poland in 1920. The Russian army had to leave Afghanistan. Russia has been waging a war for Ukraine for the second year without much success, and there is a high probability that it will lose it as well as the war in Afghanistan. Learn history before you talk nonsense.

Riiight.

 

[Hawkeye10]

They tell the boldest of lies now.

 

[Hawkeye10]

As U were told over and over and over again education is the antidote.

 

[Nordberg]

Fantasy unless the Finns attack Russia first....which they very well may be dumb enough to do.

Russia does the attacking. The Finns would like to live in peace. They are not running around trying to build an empire out of neighboring states. That would be what Russia is doing.

 

[Walt]

except for Hitler has anyone ever attacked Russia first?.....

Off the top of my head, the Kaiser in WWI, Napoleon during the Napoleonic Wars, the Vikings during the Viking Age, the Mongols, and the Japanese(twice).

The Mongols, and the Japanese are the ones Putin should fear... Not literally. Obviously, modern Mongolia, and Japan are nothing to be feared, but an invasion of Russia from the east has always easy. Russia has a lot of trouble getting more forces to the east, and has few forces there now. China could easily take half of Russia. There is a reason Putin is rounding up any Russians being seen as pro-Chinese.

The Viking(Rus) conquered Russia so much they gave it their name.

Napoleon had a huge victory at first, followed by nonstop victories, until his army mostly died from hunger and cold. It was a textbook study in how not to win. To do this, the Russians had to destroy all their own food stores, and housing. This killed ten times more Russians than French. French historians who interviewed Russian serfs a generation later found that the Russians assumed they had lost the war badly.

We all know about Hitler, but what of the Kaiser. During WWI, Germany first had a major victory against Russia, followed by... digging in defensively. The Germans spent most of the rest of the war fighting mostly on the western front. Had they won on the western front, which was close to happening, they would have then pushed further into Russia. But they limited their push into Russia for most of the war. Russia ended up surrendering large amounts of territory in a separate peace.

We often forget Germany won WWI against Russia. They lost the rest of the war, which makes their Russian victory meaningless.

So what do we learn? Russia is hard to invade from the west, but easy to invade from the east. If you do invade Russia, do it slowly like the Vikings, and dig in frequently, like the Germans in WWI. If you reach the outskirts of Moscow at the beginning of Winter, you may think you have won the war, but you have lost.

 

[Walt]

America is just the latest example.

I know we have not invaded Russia, because we are not seeing huge losses. This giant mercenary army that flies around the world is just a fantasy of Hawkeye's.

Everyone who does it loses.

The Mongolians certainly did not lose. The Germans won WWI against the Russians, but lost it against the Western Powers. The Vikings conquered Russia with yearly attacks.

But the Finns R morons.

Finland used to be part of Russia. Russia lost WWI, and lost Finland in the mix. In other words, Finland won, and Russia lost. There was an in between step of Germany winning Finland, and then losing to the Western Powers, but Russia was the loser, and Finland the winner.

 

[Walt]

The Ukraine war was demanded by NATO in an effort to weaken Russia, remove Putin, resume the rape of Russia, and to demonstrate NATO dominance.....as has been admitted in the west over and over again.

It has all turned to shit...NATO and the West are circling the drain.

Putin invaded Ukraine, not on the "demands" of NATO.

 

[Walt]

Firstly, Russia was the first to attack Napoleon and lost in the first battle, which is known as the Battle of Austerlitz in 1805

The Battle of Austerlitz was a battle in the War of the Third Coalition, which ended in 1806. The French Invasion of Russia was its own war, and happened 6 years after the War of the Third Coalition, so that battle was not the first battle. Napoleon won the War of the Third Coalition, so there was not even a revenge factor in later attacks. Also Austerlitz is deep inside the Austrian Empire, so Russians could not be said to have attacked Napoleon, but rather defended an ally.

Other than this, you make some great points.

The Russians were defeated in the Crimean War of 1853-1856.

Yes, I forgot about that one. It is worth remembering, because it happened in Ukraine.

Russia lost the war to Poland in 1920. The Russian army had to leave Afghanistan.

I did remember those two, but Poland and Afghanistan did not invade Russia. Poland did win WWI, and Russia did lose WWI, but there was an intermediate step of Germany defeating Russia and capturing Poland. Then after the war, Russia started a new war trying to invade the newly formed Poland. Russia had far superior numbers and forces, and FAILED MISERABLY!!!

That is also a lesson for the Russian Invasion of Ukraine. Russia tried to invade to reclaim part of its old territory. It had a far superior force, but lost miserably.

 

[Walt]

Riiight.

Poland and Finland used to be part of Russia, and now they are not. I wonder how that happened.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

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[Walt]

Before China came along, the Soviets had the fastest growing economy in world history.

That statement is mostly untrue, but not completely untrue. It is hard to put absolute number on the Russian economy because it was organized in such an alien way. Government focus, especially military focus, had rapid progress. Consumer good were an afterthought at best. So an agrarian Russia was able to convert to the second biggest producer of tanks in the 20 years before WWII, but has been unable to produce many consumer cars even up until now. Even though the USA produced more tanks during WWII, that is less impressive given that we were an industrial powerhouse for decades.

And then there were the man made famines. To industrialize Russia, the Soviets forced famine on the countryside, killing millions.

 

[Walt]

The eastern expansion of NATO started under Clinton. That's over 30 years of US aggression.

Eastern expansion started under Bush, not Clinton. There is no aggression in having countries band together in defense.

Russia and China are completely surrounded by US military bases.

Where are the US military bases in central and southern Asia? There are US military bases west of Russia(in Europe), east of China, and I suppose technically north of Russia (over the North Pole and in Canada and the US), but no bases to the south of Russia and west of China.

Geneva Conventions call aggression the worst form of war crime.

Having an alliance is not a war of aggression. The Geneva Convention does not comment on wars of aggression. A war of aggression would be considered a crime against peace, not really a war crime.

In Goat's disturbed mind, Russia invading other countries makes Putin the victim of aggression.

 

[Walt]

Damocles New Nicotine Free Version

I just noticed this, but for all I know it might be quite old. Either way, congrats on breaking the addiction. Your body will thank you. Besides, addictions make us weaker. You have shown strength of character in breaking the addiction.

This would trigger a NATO response. Finland became a member of NATO in 2023.

In theory, NATO would respond and Russia would lose. What Putin is hoping for is that the trump would let it go, and the other countries of NATO would be too scared to support Finland. Whether it is true or not, Putin might take the chance thinking it is true.

Hitler was right when he thought the world would do nothing when he invaded Austria, and Czechoslovakia. The Western Allies(France and Britain) promised the rest of Czechoslovakia protection, if they just surrendered the Sudetenland. Then they did nothing.

Hitler was wrong when he thought the world would do nothing when he invaded Poland, but not completely wrong. The Western Allies declared war on Germany, but did little to help Poland.

Putin might think he can grab up Finland, or more likely the Baltic States.

 

[Port Tack]

In recorded history, when has a democracy ever worked? ...or even lasted a decade before falling under the control of a socialist oligarchy?


Are you virtue-signaling AGAIN in an attempt to conceal your ignorance of the subject matter?


Democracies don't work. That's why freedom-loving people demand a republic with a constitution. Democracies quickly devolve into tyrannical socialism. Your HATRED for all things living exposes your motives.

A constitutional republic IS a democracy.

 

[Port Tack]

Trump didn't say that. Why are you assigning a bogus position to Trump that he does not hold?

He has insinuated that he would let "Russia do whatever the hell they want" with some of our NATO allies. You can't trust the lying piece of shit in anything he says.

 

[Port Tack]

As long as Finland pays its fair share of NATO Trump and the US is just fine with defending them. Trump just does not like freeloaders.

Only an ignorant dipshit like you believes a word that asshole says.