A standard day at JPP

[OrnotBitwise]

What are you smoking? Care to post a link to me saying in any of this, you piece of shit liar?

Come off it, Bubba. We all know your Aryan Agenda pretty well by now. Look at the quote of Darla's you're trying to ridicule in your signature these days: the very fact you object to it reveals what you are.

 

[Litmus]

Come off it, Bubba. We all know your Aryan Agenda pretty well by now. Look at the quote of Darla's you're trying to ridicule in your signature these days: the very fact you object to it reveals what you are.

So you should be able to find a post indicating this. Or maybe you're just a lying sack of ass jelly.


I can explain the idiocy of darla's reasoning.

Darla feels she's enlightened because she "loves all humans equally". To prove this she will side against those closest to her in nationality or race everytime, to prove she's enlightened. Thus her "enlightenment" results in discrimination to those closest to her. This is the psychopathy of "world citizenship" and precisely why she is The Enemy Within.

 

[Litmus]

It's so cute when ornot "feels brave".

 

[uscitizen]

don't be so hard on AHZ...he knows not the front door from the back door..he is still looking...God willing he will find the front door first.............

LOL, good one BB.

 

[OrnotBitwise]

So you should be able to find a post indicating this. Or maybe you're just a lying sack of ass jelly.


I can explain the idiocy of darla's reasoning.

Darla feels she's enlightened because she "loves all humans equally". To prove this she will side against those closest to her in nationality or race everytime, to prove she's enlightened. Thus her "enlightenment" results in discrimination to those closest to her. This is the psychopathy of "world citizenship" and precisely why she is The Enemy Within.

Wrong. Entirely and completely. It's a symptom of your fundamental insecurity and amoral maladjustment that you interpret unwillingness to join your particular gang with taking sides against it. You have the same defect of vision that plagues that idiot in the white house: if you're not for us you're against us. Lunacy . . . and, worse, hate-mongering.

Face it, Wipe, you're a white supremacist. You probably don't think of yourself that way but it's what you are.

 

[Litmus]

Wrong. Entirely and completely. It's a symptom of your fundamental insecurity and amoral maladjustment that you interpret unwillingness to join your particular gang with taking sides against it. You have the same defect of vision that plagues that idiot in the white house: if you're not for us you're against us. Lunacy . . . and, worse, hate-mongering.

Face it, Wipe, you're a white supremacist. You probably don't think of yourself that way but it's what you are.

No, that's you describing you and your globalist "world citizenry" gang, and your antipathy towards the "other".

 

[OrnotBitwise]

LOL, good one BB.

Indeed. Hopelessly romantic, but that's what we all like about BB anyway.

 

[OrnotBitwise]

No, that's you describing you and your globalist "world citizenry" gang, and your antipathy towards the "other".

LOL! I'm not the one desperately seeking justification for labeling others as inferior. To me, an American is just another human being. No more, no less. You're the one who seems to need to put others in their place(s), elevating "Us" to some higher plinth.

You cling to nationalism so desperately to keep you from having to dress your emotional wounds, I suspect. If you've been ill-used and beaten down, well, at least you're an American, right?

 

[Litmus]

LOL! I'm not the one desperately seeking justification for labeling others as inferior. To me, an American is just another human being. No more, no less. You're the one who seems to need to put others in their place(s), elevating "Us" to some higher plinth.

You cling to nationalism so desperately to keep you from having to dress your emotional wounds, I suspect. If you've been ill-used and beaten down, well, at least you're an American, right?

I'm not saying americans are better, I'm saying I am loyal to them. We are a social group together. these types of loyalties enhance the success of individuals within the group. Your brainwashing only makes you into a traitor.

Russia is not turning it's people into "world citizens", Neither is China, Or Iran. They are very nationalistic. In this global context, reality, not your fantasy, individuals who abandon their survival oriented bonds with others are doomed, and that's the GOAL of those who espouse these nihilist memes.

 

[OrnotBitwise]

I'm not saying americans are better, I'm saying I am loyal to them. We are a social group together. these types of loyalties enhance the success of individuals within the group. Your brainwashing only makes you into a traitor.

Russia is not turning it's people into "world citizens", Neither is China, Or Iran. They are very nationalistic. In this global context, reality, not your fantasy, individuals who abandon their survival oriented bonds with others are doomed, and that's the GOAL of those who espouse these nihilist memes.

You're "loyal" to Americans for no good reason? "Americans aren't better but I'm still going to put their interests before all others!" Pretty damned stupid, it seems to me. Animalistic: it's the sort of thing an instinct driven wolf or bee would do. This is what comes of putting emotion before reason.

We, and our simian cousins, are NOT creatures driven solely by instinct. We have choices . . . though the weak prefer not to make them, of course.

 

[Litmus]

You're "loyal" to Americans for no good reason? "Americans aren't better but I'm still going to put their interests before all others!" Pretty damned stupid, it seems to me. Animalistic: it's the sort of thing an instinct driven wolf or bee would do. This is what comes of putting emotion before reason.

We, and our simian cousins, are NOT creatures driven solely by instinct. We have choices . . . though the weak prefer not to make them, of course.

I'm loyal to them because they will be loyal to me. If the relationship offered by the New World Order was truly beneficial to all I wouldn't mind so much, but the truth is that the form of symbiosis proferred by the nwo is actually parasitism.

 

[OrnotBitwise]

I'm loyal to them because they will be loyal to me. If the relationship offered by the New World Order was truly beneficial to all I wouldn't mind so much, but the truth is that the form of symbiosis proferred by the nwo is actually parasitism.

Bullshit. I'm not going to be loyal to you and neither are the majority of Americans. You don't deserve it. I'd rather an honest Iraqi rug merchant.

Get over that junior high school rah-rah crap, dude: adults don't work that way.

 

[Litmus]

Bullshit. I'm not going to be loyal to you and neither are the majority of Americans. You don't deserve it. I'd rather an honest Iraqi rug merchant.

Get over that junior high school rah-rah crap, dude: adults don't work that way.

Well reasoned argument, shithead. You suck at thinking and arguing and being nice.

I'm sorry your role models taught you cynicism and evil.

 

[Litmus]

Please rise above evil, Ornot

http://www.fhu.com/articles/evil.html
Rising Above Evil

by Roy Masters

Have you ever wondered why there is so much evil in the world?

Halfway around the globe, there are religious zealots that delight in terrorizing, torturing and murdering people of other religions. In America, perversion and corruption are rampant, and violence is commonplace. Even in your own home, temptation, and terror hovers nearby -- if not already firmly in charge.

Why do evil and corruption have such a foothold on the human race? I will show you exactly how the evil gets into our lives and our world -- and most importantly, I will show you the way out, so you can be free to serve God, and not evil.

The truth is, people the world over, as they have for thousands of years, live in a suppressed, traumatized and therefore "altered" state of consciousness, manipulated and controlled by various political and religious systems.

On the surface, we all look alike. We may belong to the same race, color and creed, even have the same criminal behavior or psychological illness, but we are not all the same inside.

Many people not only will never awaken to acknowledge and repent of their own corrupt state, but they choose to remain zealously preoccupied with keeping others confused and asleep. Such as these go about the dirty business of degrading, even killing millions struggling for meaning and happiness. After all, the only way such as these can maintain the illusion of a misguided sense of worth is by destroying the consciousness of those around them. Left alone to unfold, the bright, unaltered consciousness in others would take back their world and prick the conscience of the earth bound, into recognition of their deformed selves, and they cannot allow that to happen.

As I said, such inhuman "soul stealers" abound, not just in foreign countries under dictatorships, but in our own homes and wherever the sickest, most corrupt member rules families and communities.

Most of us spend some part of our lives in this altered state, so we may well share some of the same aberrant behaviors. Nevertheless, there is hope for us, because one thing separates us -- our conscience. The real difference between them and us is that we have conflict over our problems, and they do not - for that reason alone, we have survived them and so are still alive inside.

Just as the most corrupted member often gets to rule the family, such as these oftentimes rise to political power and literally create chaos, violent crime, mental illness, broken homes and drug addiction. Like the Egyptian pharaoh, they will never let our people go.

The wicked are not stupid; they simply abuse their God-given talents ambitiously and ruthlessly manipulate or eliminate anyone who stands in their way. They ascend to power with the game of "hurt and rescue" - first causing the chaos, and then fixing it with wrong answers.

When they ascend to positions of authority in society, they rob the innocent of their mental health and freedoms, then sanitize and legitimize the perverted and the wicked. A proliferation of dangerous advice confounds the good and gives license to the decadent.

If all this is true, then freedom can prevail only when common sense becomes the fashion, no longer held up to ridicule. Unfortunately, many otherwise innocent and productive people have spent virtually their entire lives in various emotionally troubled states, governed by the same kind of madness as the evil ones. The difference is that we know we are sick, but we have not found the way out, or allowed to awaken and take back full control of our lives.

Since we all look and act alike -- with our various sicknesses, mental illnesses, violent and foolish behaviors -- how then can we become separate from those who will not ever awaken, and who revel in chaos, irresponsibility and wickedness?

There is an answer. For over four decades, the Foundation of Human Understanding has helped many thousands of people overcome the vice-grip evil and corruption have had on them and become free, conscience-driven individuals once again - as God intended them to be.

How to take back control

Our conscious mind -- like a radio receiver with just two channels -- acts as an other-dimensional gateway, the conduit through which good or evil enters to project heaven or hell on this earth. Depending on what "station" we tune into, the "programming" we receive comes either from within us (actually from beyond us, from God), or from the outside world, changing us into externally motivated cultural, religious or political animals.

The key to which "program" we tune into has to do with our level of consciousness, which in turn is determined by our willingness to honestly face the truth -- particularly the truth about our own weaknesses and failings. You see, without the knowledge and willingness to "be still" and squarely face our own imperfections, we literally cannot stand to be conscious. That is because the awareness necessary for us to find true inner fulfillment and rise above evil, is the exact same consciousness that will always make us aware of our own sins and imperfections. Thus, there are only two kinds of "freedoms" in this life: freedom from the slavish compulsion to do wrong, or freedom from knowing that we are wrong.

We can learn much, in an intellectual sense, from religion, psychology and medicine, but all of these knowledge bases fail us miserably as we face daily pressure and our old conditioning takes over.

Winning the war against evil requires something more spiritual, more innocent, than acquiring mere intellectual knowledge. Let me bring the solution into sharp focus by considering briefly a phone call I received recently on my radio program from a man seeking counseling.

The voice on the telephone sounded like a tormented demon -- like a cackling, raspy, unspeakably twisted fiend in some horror movie. For nine years, this 24-year-old man had descended into a living hell on earth. Fortunately, the pain of his early conditioning had also prompted an awakening from his altered state. Now, as did the prodigal son, he was on his way back to his original innocence.

"My life has been a lie ever since I can remember," he told me. "Whatever I said, I would accept as truth. I could make up stories and people would believe me. Therefore, in my mind I never did anything wrong. I thought nothing of trafficking in drugs and corrupting kids. I knew no other truth than what I thought and lived."

"I have remembered many of the things you said when I was a child. My parents had all your materials and books, but I resented you because they were close to you and they were my problem."

"As I began to awaken, I began to see that I had been a compulsive liar my entire life. I also realized that I could do nothing to stop myself from lying. I tried being 'honest' by admitting the lie, which, for obvious reasons, caused more problems. I came to you, Roy, because I knew you would understand my dilemma and would not misjudge me."

The next day this young man came to see me. He stood before me, his voice changed, wearing a clean shirt and his hair respectfully groomed.

"I'm living with my father who is still a pathological liar," he said. "I needed to go back to live with him to confront my demon roots. When I look at him, I see myself. I see that he is unaware that he is liar and that he may never want to know it."

"He lived off corrupting, spoiling and putting his nature inside me, compelling me to do to others as was done to me. I am now standing in his shoes. The difference is that I can see that he is as helpless as I still am, but for some strange reason I feel compassion and forgiveness."

I knew at that moment that this young man was finally awakening from the altered state of consciousness through which comes all human tragedy and conflicts.

As I have said, we are by nature compulsive creatures of environment, and find ourselves "slaves of sin" "programmed" by a corrupt world, when we ought to obey the dictates of our conscience. If indeed "the original kingdom of heaven within" were able to override environmental pressures, it would then be impossible to be truly consciously aware and do anything wrong at the same time.

Unfortunately, before the time of enlightened reason, we all tend to "solve" our problems by diminishing our awareness of them one way or another. Emotions imperceptibly submerge us into a dreamy escape-reality called denial, so much so, that we become hard-pressed to explain why our lives have become such a mess.

To varying degrees, our consciousness descends into daytime nightmares. We become their prisoner and are driven and deluded by a perpetual flood of emotionally induced ideas that we come to believe originate from within us. For this reason, we tend not to resist and we "follow our hearts" into inevitable tragedy.

The story goes something like this: You are upset and things go wrong. Since you are confused and frustrated, the same pattern repeats itself. Denials (excuses) compound the loss of clarity vital to solving the evolution of problems, and on and on it goes.

Like Alice falling down the rabbit hole into Wonderland, you begin to live in a world of imagination ruled by the maniacal Queen of Hearts. Solving problems by reducing your awareness of them is the soul's slow dying to the dust. Eventually, you do not know that you do not know -- and so make catastrophic decisions.

Emotional excitation evokes a heightened (delusional) state of awareness that we call a high, each one leading to the next low pursued by what appears to be the "punisher" conscience -- but only because of the ego's unwillingness to face its sins.

To the prideful person, the redeeming quality of the pursuing reality (conscience) is more painful than the hell of his or her corrupted existence, and so the flight from redemption continues, with the "soothing flames" of sensuality constantly beckoning. As a final escape, the descending soul may choose suicide, thinking to end the torment of existence. Unfortunately, it is not the end, because whether in heaven or in hell, the soul lives on, eternally or infernally.

The way out

Have you ever given any thought to what it is like to die? Does it all just fade to black, or is there some kind of afterlife? What do you think is the purpose of the gift of consciousness?

Each of us is born with a unique, separate awareness of being. There is only one of each of us. We have not ever lived before. We are born brand-new, and before us lies the destiny of searching for truth or denying it - of wanting more or less consciousness. The path has always been and always will be the same for everyone. Some find meaning, live, and die well, while others turn toward a different destiny.

No one begins life perfected. Our gradual perfection is a process of becoming better through welcoming, not shrinking from, those painful awakenings.

Life is like a complicated chess game, where pieces keep changing sides. People who have been pawns of an enemy may have a change of heart and cross over to the right side. It works both ways; while good people try to save the bad ones from evil, the bad seek to corrupt the innocent and separate them from their indwelling goodness.

Fortunately, there is a positive way to change the end game. It is as follows:

Patiently endure offenses. If people puff you up as a holy person, do not be uplifted. If they try to degrade, defame, betray or berate you, let not your soul be vexed -- remain even and centered, thereby neutralizing the sting that once prevented goodness from coming through.

Past traumas are slowly undone through your patient endurance.

We love by loving good people and by forbearing to hate wrongdoers. In this fashion, do we endear and complete ourselves to God.

Resentment is the antithesis of love, in that it reinforces in the present the very same anger that established the aberrant behaviors of the past. Resentment is the loser's anger.

Therefore, through patient endurance are you forgiven as you forgive, just as the Lord's Prayer says.

True love has two sides, two faces. One side of love is kind and generous toward the deserving, while the other side is patiently firm with wrongdoers.

Love those who are good and do not hate (resent) those who are bad - it's just that simple. When people are decent, you love them; if they are not, forbear to hate them.

Overcome all the failings of the past by dealing more perfectly (not falling to resentment) with imperfect people in the present.

As instinct is to creatures, so are the intuitive laws to the human heart. That which separates the redeemed man or woman from all other living things is the inclination of their soul -- the resigned consciousness that, when drawn inward toward the indwelling light, finds the fulfillment of true love and therefore becomes unable to hate.

Life is a continuum, up or down. Some people love in such a way that they are willing to "lay down their lives" -- that precious, conscious uniqueness -- by standing for what is right. Others do just the opposite and preserve their miserable ego-animal carcasses, defending what is clearly evil.

The preservation of the ego-animal leads to the fusion of the soul to the flesh and the slow dissolution of the truly human identity meant to develop and manifest heaven on earth. Everywhere through human agencies, malevolent spiritual forces are at work, perpetually pumping you up with anger and judgment. Those same forces also keep you comfortable in your weaknesses, until its soul deadening pleasures and securities compel you either to cry out to God, or to burrow ever deeper into denial and escape. The temporal life you live is preparatory to the eternal or infernal one.

Surely, it is better for a boat to go through the ocean than for the ocean to go through the (leaky) boat. Likewise, should we go through life, not life through us. No one in his right mind would bail out water from the bilge without first patching the leak. So must you first plug up the leak of resentment, only then can you stay ahead of drowning in a flood of internal problems.

There exists a "place" within us, a space from which vantage point one both observes and changes the future a fraction of an instant before its shaping - and therein lies the faith of choice.

Come now up to a new "altitude" with undreamed-of potential -- become an observer.

Come now toward the pain of shame -- do not run.

Heed that still small voice. Sink no longer into thinking, nor drown in dreams. Deal anew perfectly with imperfect people, minus resentment and frustration. Be patient in the little things and the evil of the world will stop flooding in.

No need to roll up your sleeves to will any outcome, you will change the world by remaining unchanged; in effortless control, influence the world through not being influenced, win by not losing.

No need to win -- just don't lose, which is to say, under trial and tribulation be patient, forsake not principle for gain.

Out of a calm composure, choose to say or do something - or choose to say or do nothing -- without fear of repression.

By not becoming upset, and braving the outcome of any conflict, a quiet sense of triumph follows.

The moment-to-moment practice of being patient with others by giving up resentment and hence self-doubt is much more profound than it seems. It is not just a psychological stress-reduction technique or coping mechanism. Rather, it is true faith in action. It is humility and forgiveness. It is obedience to the commandment to love God and your neighbor. Therefore, God rewards that obedience with His unfailing love and direction and happiness.

 

[OrnotBitwise]

Well reasoned argument, shithead. You suck at thinking and arguing and being nice.

I'm sorry your role models taught you cynicism and evil.

LMAO! You're just getting funnier and funnier, Bubba. In AssHat's dictionary, it would seem that "cynicism" means "challenging my worldview" and "evil" means "calling me names."

What a pitiful 'tard.

Look, let me give you a hint, just to even the odds a bit. The phrase that I believe you're overdriving your desultory synapses for is:

commonality of interest.

You believe that "loyalty" (sic) to America and Americans is justified because we -- well, you and some sub-group of Americans of which you approve, anyway -- have a very broad commonality of interest. Nicht vahr?

 

[Litmus]

LMAO! You're just getting funnier and funnier, Bubba. In AssHat's dictionary, it would seem that "cynicism" means "challenging my worldview" and "evil" means "calling me names."

What a pitiful 'tard.

Look, let me give you a hint, just to even the odds a bit. The phrase that I believe you're overdriving your desultory synapses for is:

commonality of interest.

You believe that "loyalty" (sic) to America and Americans is justified because we -- well, you and some sub-group of Americans of which you approve, anyway -- have a very broad commonality of interest. Nicht vahr?

Believing that being adult means eschewing loyalty is cynicism. Again you start with the word games. i pity your barren soul and paltry intellect.

 

[OrnotBitwise]

Believing that being adult means eschewing loyalty is cynicism. Again you start with the word games. i pity your barren soul and paltry intellect.

Argle bargle morble swoosh? Plablem! Flephleply snooglsmorsh.

See, I can match you gibberish for gibberish all day. It won't accomplish anything but I can do it.

Why, pray tell, do you believe that it is rational to be loyal to the United States? I submit that the only rational basis for such a judgment would be commonality of interest . . . UNLESS you're falling into the trap of thinking that Americans are better than everyone else.

 

[Litmus]

Argle bargle morble swoosh? Plablem! Flephleply snooglsmorsh.

See, I can match you gibberish for gibberish all day. It won't accomplish anything but I can do it.

Why, pray tell, do you believe that it is rational to be loyal to the United States? I submit that the only rational basis for such a judgment would be commonality of interest . . . UNLESS you're falling into the trap of thinking that Americans are better than everyone else.

Gibberish? Which word didn't you understand?

Yes, an assumption of commonality of interest, and a commitment on the part of individual americans to get my back. It does require an element of trust, and hope even, principles your cynicism doesn't allow you.

As far as "if not that then americans are better" that's not rational, but it doesn't matter because it is that.

Do you feel like you've accomplished something by calling loyalty "commonality of interest?" It's not even quite right, because it's presumption of commonality of interest, more accurately.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

LOL! We have here the embryo of another Epic Rivalry. Not yet an Heroic Clash of Personalities, of course: an embryo is not the thing entire. But we may be getting there.

WM, as I've already said, I don't get your objection to BAC. I'm clearly biased, but what the hell. Whatever it is that he does to get under your skin, though, is clearly mighty potent.

I took them all back off of ignore again, because it was getting annoying just going in and clicking "view post" all of the time. Ignoring people is not only cowardly, it's practically useless.

I'm just really going to try not to comment politically on anything with them anymore, because it always gets really big, and I'm bipolar, so if I go into one of the "low" times while we're in an argument I tend to overreact.

I dunno... it's just that Black is so goddamn SERIOUS about EVERYTHING.

 

[OrnotBitwise]

Gibberish? Which word didn't you understand?

Yes, an assumption of commonality of interest, and a commitment on the part of individual americans to get my back. It does require an element of trust, and hope even, principles your cynicism doesn't allow you.

As far as "if not that then americans are better" that's not rational, but it doesn't matter because it is that.

Do you feel like you've accomplished something by calling loyalty "commonality of interest?" It's not even quite right, because it's presumption of commonality of interest, more accurately.

Exactly. Presumption of commonality of interest.

Which is highly presumptuous. Stupid, even. Reflexive and unthinking.

What if I conclude, based on evidence accumulated from experience, that I have more in common with a software designer in Amsterdam than I do with you? In fact, I have concluded exactly this. So have many people . . . and I applaud it. If we are to base our loyalties and, hence, our actions on commonality of interest then it behooves us, as rational beings at least marginally freed from the strictures of instinct, to determine exactly where those commonalities of interest really lie.

Which is precisely where nationalism falls apart. And should, because it is atavistic and contra-survival.

This, in turn, is why I have no love for the United States government. I do have some considerable love for our system of government. That is worth preserving, at least to the extent of merging its best features into whatever will come after. But the nation itself is of no particular interest to me.

The day of nations is, for better or worse, drawing toward late afternoon. Get ready for a new day, Bubba.