ABRAHAM LINCOLN - THE GREAT COLONISER

"From around 1853/4 to, literally, his dying day, one issue that preoccupied Lincoln inordinately was how he would be able to organise the deportation of all liberated Negro slaves from the United States after emancipation. " is a confirmation Lincoln statement by Dachshund was not a preoccupation by Lincoln.

The confirmation Lincoln statement by Dachshynddawg that "had Lincoln not been assassinated in 1865, it is highly likely there would be no African-Americans living in the US today." is false.

The CSA was never an independent country.
 
Celticguy said:
Nope. They just left and shortly thereafter began negotiating, transfet and compensation.
The union began military action in April 1861.
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You skipped over treasonous Rebels fired on Ft Sumter April 12 1861 .
Attacking the government of the United States stationed in Ft Sumter.
 
Shel said:
You skipped over treasonous Rebels fired on Ft Sumter April 12 1861 .
Attacking the government of the United States stationed in Ft Sumter.
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You skipped over the peacefull seperation.
Lincoln was the one forcing aggressive military action.
 
Shel said:
You skipped over treasonous Rebels fired on Ft Sumter April 12 1861 .
Attacking the government of the United States stationed in Ft Sumter.
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Well they did that in their own defense of the reaction sure to follow..........:rolleyes:....lol

I find it odd that the Union allowed them to escape the gallows, but then maybe they preferred they suffer the rest of their miserable lives in self pity & loathing..
 
Bill said:

Well they did that in their own defense of the reaction sure to follow..........:rolleyes:....lol

I find it odd that the Union allowed them to escape the gallows, but then maybe they preferred they suffer the rest of their miserable lives in self pity & loathing..
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Longterm the whole treasonous Rebels should have been hanged!
 
Dachshynddawg said:
I am surprised at how many American posters on this forum have no knowledge of the history of the Civil War. So I thought I would set down some facts for the benefit of bird-brains like Guno and Tacomaman.


Before I deal with the Civil War in the US. I'd like to remind all of those American leftists on this forum who demonise the West for having established the trans-Atlantic slave trade, that slavery is a UNIVERSAL institution until its abolition essentially by the Judeo-Christian West in 1833. That was the year the British Parliament abolished slavery in most British colonies, freeing more than 800,000 enslaved Africans.


WHAT CAUSED THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR ?


The American Civil War was fought less over the moral issue of slavery than it was over the economic and political control of that system that was central to the conflict.


A key issue was states Rights. The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government, so they could abolish laws they didn't support, especially those laws interfering with the South's Right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wanted.


The South also wanted to take slaves into the Western territories, while the North was determined to keep them open to White labour alone. So, territorial expansion was another factor. Meanwhile the Republican party, who strongly opposed this territorial expansion by the South were gaining political strength.


When Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, was elected President in 1860, it sealed the deal. He was elected without a single Southern electoral vote, and the South knew they had lost all influence. The perception that they had been excluded from the political system, led them to turn to the only alternative that they felt remained to them: succession, a political decision that led to war.


ABRAHAM LINCOLN - THE GREAT EMANCIPATOR WHO BECAME THE GREAT COLONISER


Throughout his lifetime Lincoln argued that slavery was a moral evil. I would trace this belief back to the work of the great English Enlightenment philosopher, John Locke. Locke was a Natural Law theorist, he believed that God (Biblical) had ordained an objective Natural Law - a body of unchanging moral principles that was a basis for all human conduct. He believed that human were able to discern some of the moral principles of Natural Law by using their God-given capacity to reason (i.e; to use their intelligence/rational faculties) Some examples of Natural law are: do not kill, do not enslave and do not steal. It is always and everywhere morally wrong to do these things.

(TO BE CONTINUED
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I’m glad we can establish that the Civil War WAS about slavery
 
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