Activist Federal judge blocks Trump's birthright citizenship ban for all infants, testing lower court powers

You are misrepresenting the argument. Indians that live off the reservation in property they own do pay taxes. Look up the Dawes Act of 1877 which granted land to Indians and made them citizens.


And every Indian born within the territorial limits of the United States to whom allotments shall have been made under the provisions of this act, or under any law or treaty, and every Indian born within the territorial limits of the United States who has voluntarily taken up, within said limits, his residence separate and apart from any tribe of Indians therein, and has adopted the habits of civilized life, is hereby declared to be a citizen of the United States, and is entitled to all the rights, privileges, and immunities of such citizens, whether said Indian has been or not, by birth or otherwise, a member of any tribe of Indians within the territorial limits of the United States without in any manner affecting the right of any such Indian to tribal or other property.



AI is not plenty for the internet since AI is often wrong. It doesn't verify facts. It only looks for how often something was said.
OK then provide me a case about Indian citizenship that prove AI wrong.
 
And the 18th amendment - (For anyone that hasn't yet realized how big of an idiot @Into the Night is.)

After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.
Annnnd you still don't know what 'jurisdiction' means.
 
So the 14th also grants them citizenship to the state they live in. Which brings us back to why didn't that apply to native American born within the territorial limits of the US? (Prior to 1924.)
The 14th amendment did apply to native Americans born outside the reservations that owned land that was taxed. (See the Dawes Act of 1877.)

If we go back to the Senate Judiciary report of 1870, we see the same thing expressed. Indians that paid taxes were citizens and subject to the jurisdiction of the US so their children were born citizens. Indians that lived on the reservations and had treaties with the US were not subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

In 1870, the Senate Judiciary committee was asked to address the question of whether the 14th amendment applied to Indians. The report says this:
From a perusal of these statutes it is manifest that Congress has
never regarded the Indian tribes as subject to the municipal jurisdiction
of the United States
.

[snip]

In the opinion of your committee, the Constitution and the treaties,
acts of Congress, and judicial decisions above referred to, all speak the
same language upon this subject, and all point to the conclusion that
the Indians, in tribal condition, have never been subject to the jurisdic-
tion of the United States in the sense in which the term jurisdiction is .
employed in the fourteenth amendment . to the Constitution. The Gov-
ernment has asserted a political supremacy over the Indians, and the
treaties and laws quoted from present these tribes as "domestic, de-
pendent nations," separated from the States of the Union within whose
limits they are located, and exempt from the operation of State laws;
 
OK then provide me a case about Indian citizenship that prove AI wrong.
I just did. The fact that you completely ignored the Dawes Act says what about you? This is from 1877 and 1877 is prior to 1924.


And every Indian born within the territorial limits of the United States to whom allotments shall have been made under the provisions of this act, or under any law or treaty, and every Indian born within the territorial limits of the United States who has voluntarily taken up, within said limits, his residence separate and apart from any tribe of Indians therein, and has adopted the habits of civilized life, is hereby declared to be a citizen of the United States, and is entitled to all the rights, privileges, and immunities of such citizens, whether said Indian has been or not, by birth or otherwise, a member of any tribe of Indians within the territorial limits of the United States without in any manner affecting the right of any such Indian to tribal or other property.
 
Were you unable to understand when I explained this to you earlier? The 14th amendment continues the idea that Indians are not citizens by making them a separate class.

14th Amendment​


Section 1​


All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Section 2​


Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.
Indians are citizens of their tribe, their confederation (if they have one), and of the United States.
They are NOT citizens of the State the tribe or confederation happens to be located in.

Their jurisdiction is their tribe and their confederation (if they have one) and of the United States.

Illegal aliens cannot vote (legally), so they have no representation in the United States and are not to be counted as a 'person' in the census.
 
I just did. The fact that you completely ignored the Dawes Act says what about you? This is from 1877 and 1877 is prior to 1924.


And every Indian born within the territorial limits of the United States to whom allotments shall have been made under the provisions of this act, or under any law or treaty, and every Indian born within the territorial limits of the United States who has voluntarily taken up, within said limits, his residence separate and apart from any tribe of Indians therein, and has adopted the habits of civilized life, is hereby declared to be a citizen of the United States, and is entitled to all the rights, privileges, and immunities of such citizens, whether said Indian has been or not, by birth or otherwise, a member of any tribe of Indians within the territorial limits of the United States without in any manner affecting the right of any such Indian to tribal or other property.
You just nullified your own argument.
 
The 14th amendment did apply to native Americans born outside the reservations that owned land that was taxed. (See the Dawes Act of 1877.)

If we go back to the Senate Judiciary report of 1870, we see the same thing expressed. Indians that paid taxes were citizens and subject to the jurisdiction of the US so their children were born citizens. Indians that lived on the reservations and had treaties with the US were not subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

In 1870, the Senate Judiciary committee was asked to address the question of whether the 14th amendment applied to Indians. The report says this:
From a perusal of these statutes it is manifest that Congress has
never regarded the Indian tribes as subject to the municipal jurisdiction
of the United States
.

[snip]

In the opinion of your committee, the Constitution and the treaties,
acts of Congress, and judicial decisions above referred to, all speak the
same language upon this subject, and all point to the conclusion that
the Indians, in tribal condition, have never been subject to the jurisdic-
tion of the United States in the sense in which the term jurisdiction is .
employed in the fourteenth amendment . to the Constitution. The Gov-
ernment has asserted a political supremacy over the Indians, and the
treaties and laws quoted from present these tribes as "domestic, de-
pendent nations," separated from the States of the Union within whose
limits they are located, and exempt from the operation of State laws;
The 14th amendment does not apply to Indians. It applies to the federal government (part of it also applies to State governments).
 
In Panama, you can even be born on a Panamanian flagged ship to be born Panamanian.

Panama!!! Yep, they're breaking down the doors to get into that country aren't they halfwit.

boy-meets-world-laughing.gif


All persons born in Canada become Canadian citizens at birth.

WRONG!
  1. Exceptions to Automatic Citizenship: There are a few exceptions to automatic birthright citizenship in Canada. For example, if a child is born to foreign diplomats or representatives of a foreign government, they are not eligible for Canadian citizenship under birthright principles. Additionally, if one or both parents are in Canada as tourists or temporary residents, and they do not have a permanent resident status, the child may not acquire automatic Canadian citizenship.

You're such a dumb fuck. No wonder you voted for Kamala. :laugh:

Guess how many other countries have citizenship at birth. Hint - it isn't none like you tried to claim because you are so tied to your cult.

I'm betting that you'll find some misinformation web site to tell you what you want to hear as you did above, dumb fuck. :rofl2:
 
I find it interesting that you think the USSC ruling that overturned the lower court's national injunction stopping Trump's EO preventing birthright citizenship was just a lot of words that say absolutely nothing.

I find it more interesting that low IQ, uneducated dotards like you think the Constitution grants birthright citizenship. :rofl2:
 
And the 18th amendment - (For anyone that hasn't yet realized how big of an idiot @Into the Night is.)

After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.
:lolup: Doesn't know he is the biggest idiot. :laugh:
 
The courts are who decide the issue of birthright citizenship.

WRONG again dumb fuck. That is up to the Constitution and the legislature. States do not have jurisdiction over our borders or foreign policy.

If you had a brain and an education, you would know this. Nothing says moron louder than a smarmy dumb fuck.

They require actual evidence and court cases in support of a position.

Pointless off topic blather.
 
Panama!!! Yep, they're breaking down the doors to get into that country aren't they halfwit.

boy-meets-world-laughing.gif




WRONG!
  1. Exceptions to Automatic Citizenship: There are a few exceptions to automatic birthright citizenship in Canada. For example, if a child is born to foreign diplomats or representatives of a foreign government, they are not eligible for Canadian citizenship under birthright principles. Additionally, if one or both parents are in Canada as tourists or temporary residents, and they do not have a permanent resident status, the child may not acquire automatic Canadian citizenship.

You're such a dumb fuck. No wonder you voted for Kamala. :laugh:



I'm betting that you'll find some misinformation web site to tell you what you want to hear as you did above, dumb fuck. :rofl2:
Your the idiot that claimed There is no nation in the world that gives visitors babies automatic citizenship.

Is Panama a country? Yes/no
Does Panama have birthright citizenship that makes the babies of visitors citizens? Yes/No
Is your claim that There is no nation in the world that gives visitors babies automatic citizenship true? Yes/No
 
The 14th amendment did apply to native Americans born outside the reservations that owned land that was taxed. (See the Dawes Act of 1877.)

If we go back to the Senate Judiciary report of 1870, we see the same thing expressed. Indians that paid taxes were citizens and subject to the jurisdiction of the US so their children were born citizens. Indians that lived on the reservations and had treaties with the US were not subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

In 1870, the Senate Judiciary committee was asked to address the question of whether the 14th amendment applied to Indians. The report says this:
From a perusal of these statutes it is manifest that Congress has
never regarded the Indian tribes as subject to the municipal jurisdiction
of the United States
.

[snip]

In the opinion of your committee, the Constitution and the treaties,
acts of Congress, and judicial decisions above referred to, all speak the
same language upon this subject, and all point to the conclusion that
the Indians, in tribal condition, have never been subject to the jurisdic-
tion of the United States in the sense in which the term jurisdiction is .
employed in the fourteenth amendment . to the Constitution. The Gov-
ernment has asserted a political supremacy over the Indians, and the
treaties and laws quoted from present these tribes as "domestic, de-
pendent nations," separated from the States of the Union within whose
limits they are located, and exempt from the operation of State laws;
And why was the Dawes act even needed. You sure are dumb. If the 14th applied to Native Americans there would be no need for the Dawes Act or the Snyder Act. And paying taxes would have ZERO affect on whether or not a person was a citizen or not.
 
Your the idiot that claimed There is no nation in the world that gives visitors babies automatic citizenship.

Is Panama a country? Yes/no
Does Panama have birthright citizenship that makes the babies of visitors citizens? Yes/No
Is your claim that There is no nation in the world that gives visitors babies automatic citizenship true? Yes/No
And that has ZERO effect on US law so what difference does it make really? Get back to the real issues at hand.
 
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