Air Traffic Controllers Warned US Army Helicopter Ahead Of Crash

The technicians who maintain the radar, communications, and nav-aids require 5-6 years to become proficient.

There is a long lag time for controllers and technicians in the pipe line.



Does the FAA hire people with disabilities?

“The Biden FAA specifically recruited and hired individuals with 'severe intellectual' disabilities, psychiatric issues and complete paralysis over other individuals who sought to work for the FAA,” an accompanying White House fact sheet said.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
"Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" -- that Jesus guy you pretend to follow
Click to expand...
:magagrin:
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You might appreciate this video. It's a preliminary analysis of what happened.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzQe6W7vcu4&t=3s&ab_channel=PilotDebrief
Click to expand...
Good presentation of facts. The most salient point he made was about relative motion. With all the lights in the sky and ground, as the aircraft were headed toward each other, there'd be little to no relative motion to discern what it was other than just another bright light.

One of the displays he presented showed PAT 25 at 300'. The news this morning said the max altitude for that helicopter route was 200', but didn't say if they had permission to fly higher. Altitude separation is obviously important, but in this case, lateral separation was critical. A CRJ700 passing over a UH-60 at 100' would create a lot of wake turbulence. I've had near midairs with less than 50' vertical and lateral separation but always with similar aircraft, not an airliner. The video mentioned wake turbulence as part of the sequencing of traffic into DCA and those aircraft are usually a couple miles apart.
 
Earl said:
When staffing is not adequate, controllers are forced to work long hours and control more aircraft.

Those who have not experienced the stress that ATC’s experience will never understand.

Biden/Harris are responsible for the staffing crisis.

Again, it requires 2-3 years to bring a new controller up to speed, more at a Level 5 airport (gateway) or an ARTCC.
Click to expand...
What you say is true but this might be an odd case. Helicopters by nature, are not very well equipped at observing the sky above. We probably do not have all the tower communication. We do not know if it was flying using night vision which can be disorienting in a well lit environment? It might be that the chopper pilot confused the controller's request with the other plane that was nearby. Did the collision system auto shut down at low altitude?

All questions that need to be answered before casting blame on anyone.
 
.

Doppler radar, as a basic velocity sensor, provides information that is ideally suited for use in the automatic control of a helicopter both in hovering and directional flight. This capability was recognized in the early stages of Doppler radar development.

The VOR at ATL is a Doppler VOR.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top