Al Gore - Man of Conscience

ib1yysguy said:
Other than calling it "bullshit," did Stringy ever admit that there's a difference between kidnapping someone and bringing them to trial in America and sending them over seas to be tortured? Though both may be objectionable/illegal, they are not the same or morally equivalent.
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We conducted extraordniary renditions under Clinton. They were sent to Egypt for torture.
 
RStringfield said:
We conducted extraordniary renditions under Clinton. They were sent to Egypt for torture.
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Really, you haven't presented anything that provides evidence for that. I will check into it via Clarke's book tonight, but don't kid yourself that as of yet, you've done presented anything other than your claims here.

I find it ironic that someone who disregards actual compelling evidence that Ron Paul is a racist, is acting out on this thread as if something has been proved.

It's telling.
 
Yes, I have. Again, Scheuer covers that.

There is no compelling evidence that Paul is a racist. Even if he did write that article, which he clearly did not, it is quite absurd to equate writing words to actions leading to a torture program. Hey, though, I am sure Gore has heard of Friedman, maybe he even met him, maybe we can blame it on Milton.
 
Beefy said:
This article says we've been doing it since the early 90's.

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/extraordinaryrendition/22203res20051206.html

Same with this one:

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2006_spr/rendition.htm
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I understand that, and I have know that since reading Clarke's book. However, what I have never seen, nor even heard of, is anyone being tortured before our post-9/11 policies. They were rendered before that, here for court trials, and to other countries if they were wanted there already, for trial.

It is still illegal, no question. I do not support it.

But it is also, still, two different things.
 
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