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I watched the entire thing play out and I think you welched.

You're entitled to your opinion, I cancelled the bet. I gave a legitimate reason, and sufficient notice. I didn't "welch" on anything. I certainly wouldn't welch on putting something in a sig line.

I typically dont bet on my own team.

Being it's Auburn, I don't blame ya!

Excuse me Jarhead, I mistook you for someone who had enough balls to back up his big talk. I guess we'll just wait and see who eats who's dust next year.
 
Dixie said:
I watched the entire thing play out and I think you welched.

You're entitled to your opinion, I cancelled the bet. I gave a legitimate reason, and sufficient notice. I didn't "welch" on anything. I certainly wouldn't welch on putting something in a sig line.

I typically dont bet on my own team.

Being it's Auburn, I don't blame ya!

Excuse me Jarhead, I mistook you for someone who had enough balls to back up his big talk. I guess we'll just wait and see who eats who's dust next year.
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When you unilatterally cancell a bet you already made... its called Welching! Id be an idiot to bet with you considering your reputation for welching.
 
Jarod said:
When you unilatterally cancell a bet you already made... its called Welching! Id be an idiot to bet with you considering your reputation for welching.
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No, cancelling a bet for a legitimate reason is done all the time, and is not "welching" on the bet, since the bet is cancelled. A bet has been "welched" on, when it is lost and the debt not paid. That didn't happen, since the bet never took place.

This happened one time, and I stated my legitimate and valid reasons for cancelling the bet. I am not subject to your approval or way of thinking, and it really doesn't matter with regard to the facts of the case. The fact that it only happened once, does not denote something of "reputation" by any definition of the word. I don't have a reputation of welching on bets, and I don't have a reputation of even cancelling bets, it happened only once.

It's okay that you are chicken shit to bet with me, I fully understand! I wouldn't bet either, if I were you! Although, I do think I would be honest enough to say... hey... look, you guys have an awesome coach and will probably beat the living dog crap out of us next year... but that's because I have a confidence you don't have, I am not an Aubie.... I understand, things are different for you.
 
If you agree to a bet, you cant later cancell it, especally when it becomes clear you will loose.... That is welching... not cancelling it.

You have 0 creditability.

If you were in vegas and were delt a bad hand, do you think you can take back your antie?
 
Once a bet is made, it is made. If you lose, you pay up, if you win, you collect.

That's that. If you want to redefine what "betting" is, then you're a retard.
 
As I stated previously, your approval or permission is not needed by me. I made a judgement call, and if you were in the same situation, you would have made a judgement call as well. I agree, cancelling bets is unusual, but it's not unheard of or necessarily unethical or wrong. It depends, like every fucking thing else under the sun, on the situation and circumstances.

I made a bet with the loudmouth to get him to shut up... he didn't shut up... the whole fucking purpose and reason for me making the lousy bet, was to get him to shut up about it... it was worth me losing, not to have to hear his mouth run for 6 months! After 3 months of mouth running, and no indication he planned to stop, even after being warned that I would cancel the bet... I finally pulled the plug and cancelled the bet. Sorry... I hate it! I wish I hadn't had to do it, but principles and ethics take precedent over pinhead betting rules. If you bet me you could win a foot race, and as soon as we shook, I kicked you in the knee and took off... you would have a legitimate reason to cancel our bet... you didn't abide by the rules... you didn't play fair... you took action that caused the bet to be revoked. If you go to Vegas and cheat at blackjack, do you think they will let you keep your earnings? ...hey, a bet is a bet... once it's made, can't take it back...

For the record, I don't give a flying rat's fuck what you think of me, I think I was justified in cancelling the bet made with Maineman, because he violated the terms the bet was made on. This is not subject to your agreement or approval, it's entirely not up to you. This is a scratch-n-win lottery ticket someone voided by not following the directions, there is no cash prize awarded in such cases.... those are the breaks.
 
Its called welching!

No... Welshing is when you've lost a bet and refuse to pay. Cancelling a wager because the rules were broken or someone cheated, is not welshing.
 
Try telling a Vegas Poker dealer you are cancelling the bet because you dont like the cards you were delt.
 
Dixie said:
Its called welching!

No... Welshing is when you've lost a bet and refuse to pay. Cancelling a wager because the rules were broken or someone cheated, is not welshing.
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The bet:

Maineman:
And my wager is still there: we will gain seats in both the Senate and the House in '06.... putting the ball in the net with our eyes wide open.... $100... and you STILL bluster about but refuse to put your money where your loud obnoxious mouth is.

Dixie:
You're on!

That's the bet. Dixie lost, Dixie didn't pay, Dixie welched on the bet. There's no room for your spin machine here Dix. You'll of course make something up to try to get around this obvious, clear-cut bet, but you're not fooling anyone. We all know you have no honor when it comes to this kind of thing.

You owe him $100, you lost, pay the man.

http://www.fullpolitics.com/viewthread.php?tid=4234#pid99106
 
That's the bet. Dixie lost, Dixie didn't pay, Dixie welched on the bet. There's no room for your spin machine here Dix. You'll of course make something up to try to get around this obvious, clear-cut bet, but you're not fooling anyone. We all know you have no honor when it comes to this kind of thing.

You owe him $100, you lost, pay the man.

Beefy, read this again please....

My decision to cancel the bet with Maineman, is not subject to your approval, endorsement, acceptance, or opinion of validity in any way. Any implied statement that I am concerned with, care about, or give any consideration for what you have to say on this matter, is erroneous.


You and Prissy can run off to FP.com and find all sorts of 'incriminating evidence' to post, in order to make a case out of this, but frankly, I don't care. I know why I cancelled the bet, and Maineman knows as well, and you have no input, control, or sanction, in anything pertaining to this matter. You are not a judge, you are not an arbiter, you are nothing but a pinhead with an opinion, like everyone else. I can appreciate that you want to suck Maines balls and get his orgasmic praises bestowed upon you, and I get that you just fuckin' don't like me, but enough is enough.... get a room!


Here's the deal... Just like, if you bet at a casino, and they catch you card-counting, you are not going to be able to keep your winnings, the bet is cancelled... Just like, if you bet on a horse at 300:1 to win, and then sabotaged the gates to open late for his opponents, they wouldn't let your bet stand... Just like, if you played the market with a tip from an inside trader, they wouldn't let your earnings stand... Just like, if I bet you couldn't eat these 12 donuts, but didn't tell you they were laced with laxatives, and you found out... the 'bet' would be OFF!

There are parameters to a bet, any bet! It's not simply a matter of... well, there are your words... you lost! The bet was cancelled well before the event took place, and a legitimate reason was given for the cancellation. I'm dreadfully sorry about that, I know Maine wanted to win the bet, it's why he made it in the first place. I made the bet with full intentions of probably losing, but figured it was worth it to get him to shut up with the challenges.... that didn't work, it became a source of constant bluster and braggadocio for Maineman, and despite several warnings (which no one has researched or posted here), I finally decided he wasn't going to cooperate with the terms of the bet, and I cancelled it. You don't think I considered the ridicule I was going to get for that? I really struggled with it, and attempted to ignore it for several weeks, before I finally put a stop to it by cancelling the bet, it wasn't my first option. If Maine had shut up and just waited his time out, he would have been $100 richer today, I didn't make him run his mouth!

Your respect for my honor not withstanding, I don't owe Maineman a damn thing!
 
Dixie said:
That's the bet. Dixie lost, Dixie didn't pay, Dixie welched on the bet. There's no room for your spin machine here Dix. You'll of course make something up to try to get around this obvious, clear-cut bet, but you're not fooling anyone. We all know you have no honor when it comes to this kind of thing.

You owe him $100, you lost, pay the man.

Beefy, read this again please....

My decision to cancel the bet with Maineman, is not subject to your approval, endorsement, acceptance, or opinion of validity in any way. Any implied statement that I am concerned with, care about, or give any consideration for what you have to say on this matter, is erroneous.


You and Prissy can run off to FP.com and find all sorts of 'incriminating evidence' to post, in order to make a case out of this, but frankly, I don't care. I know why I cancelled the bet, and Maineman knows as well, and you have no input, control, or sanction, in anything pertaining to this matter. You are not a judge, you are not an arbiter, you are nothing but a pinhead with an opinion, like everyone else. I can appreciate that you want to suck Maines balls and get his orgasmic praises bestowed upon you, and I get that you just fuckin' don't like me, but enough is enough.... get a room!


Here's the deal... Just like, if you bet at a casino, and they catch you card-counting, you are not going to be able to keep your winnings, the bet is cancelled... Just like, if you bet on a horse at 300:1 to win, and then sabotaged the gates to open late for his opponents, they wouldn't let your bet stand... Just like, if you played the market with a tip from an inside trader, they wouldn't let your earnings stand... Just like, if I bet you couldn't eat these 12 donuts, but didn't tell you they were laced with laxatives, and you found out... the 'bet' would be OFF!

There are parameters to a bet, any bet! It's not simply a matter of... well, there are your words... you lost! The bet was cancelled well before the event took place, and a legitimate reason was given for the cancellation. I'm dreadfully sorry about that, I know Maine wanted to win the bet, it's why he made it in the first place. I made the bet with full intentions of probably losing, but figured it was worth it to get him to shut up with the challenges.... that didn't work, it became a source of constant bluster and braggadocio for Maineman, and despite several warnings (which no one has researched or posted here), I finally decided he wasn't going to cooperate with the terms of the bet, and I cancelled it. You don't think I considered the ridicule I was going to get for that? I really struggled with it, and attempted to ignore it for several weeks, before I finally put a stop to it by cancelling the bet, it wasn't my first option. If Maine had shut up and just waited his time out, he would have been $100 richer today, I didn't make him run his mouth!

Your respect for my honor not withstanding, I don't owe Maineman a damn thing!
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Aw come on Dix! You know its not that I don't like you. I really do. But when someone cheeseballs a bet, I'm going to call it out. And I have no love lost with maineman, I'm surprised you haven't figured that one out yet. But so it goes for those who put on their blinders every morning as routinely brushing your teeth.

Nice try Dix. You welched on the bet. You made a bet, you lost, you didn't pay. Parameters of betting of course have the implied agreement that if someone cheats, the bet is off. Somehow, I don't see how maineman fixed the midterms to win a lousy $100 from you. He did not cheat.

The parameters of the bet are outlined above. You accepted the bet, lost, and have refused to pay. Your spin job is utterly meaningless. Completely irrelevant.

Pretty good spin job though, about what I expected.

Carry on. I'll bet if you really try, someday you might actually believe that when you make a bet with someone you don't like, you shouldn't have to pay, and mean people might make bad names at you, but they're all wrong, and you're always right.
 
Somehow, I don't see how maineman fixed the midterms to win a lousy $100 from you. He did not cheat.

The bet was cancelled before the midterms took place. It was cancelled because it was made on the condition that Maine shut up, and he refused to. I even did the honorable thing and called his attention to this several times, he acknowledged that, he would abide by this in the future... he didn't... he couldn't help himself... I knew he wouldn't be able to.

I bet if you go search FP.com for "bet" and Dixie and Maine, you'll find an enormous number of posts, and an incredible amount of discussion pertaining to this wager, and none of that is being factored into your judgemental conclusions. If I gave a flying rat's fuck what you thought, I would run off over to FP.com and search out where Maine agreed to this condition, and therefore broke the terms of the wager, but I really don't care. You are free to think whatever you want to about me, you will anyway.

I'm not trying to 'spin' or 'save face' or whatever... I honestly didn't expect to come here and explain my side of any damn thing, and get support or acknowledgement, it doesn't happen in this universe. I just wanted to explain that it was not 'welching' and that I don't 'welch' on bets, nor am I in the practice of, or have the reputation of, cancelling wagers because terms were broken. Most of the people I bet with are honorable, and cancelling the bet isn't ever an issue.
 
Dixie said:
Somehow, I don't see how maineman fixed the midterms to win a lousy $100 from you. He did not cheat.

The bet was cancelled before the midterms took place. It was cancelled because it was made on the condition that Maine shut up, and he refused to. I even did the honorable thing and called his attention to this several times, he acknowledged that, he would abide by this in the future... he didn't... he couldn't help himself... I knew he wouldn't be able to.

I bet if you go search FP.com for "bet" and Dixie and Maine, you'll find an enormous number of posts, and an incredible amount of discussion pertaining to this wager, and none of that is being factored into your judgemental conclusions. If I gave a flying rat's fuck what you thought, I would run off over to FP.com and search out where Maine agreed to this condition, and therefore broke the terms of the wager, but I really don't care. You are free to think whatever you want to about me, you will anyway.

I'm not trying to 'spin' or 'save face' or whatever... I honestly didn't expect to come here and explain my side of any damn thing, and get support or acknowledgement, it doesn't happen in this universe. I just wanted to explain that it was not 'welching' and that I don't 'welch' on bets, nor am I in the practice of, or have the reputation of, cancelling wagers because terms were broken. Most of the people I bet with are honorable, and cancelling the bet isn't ever an issue.
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actually, the bet had no conditions on it when we made it....after a while, you unilaterally said you would not pay if I did not cease mentioning it.

But hell...I knew you'd never pay in the first place.... just like I knew I'd never have to.
 
Dixie said:
Somehow, I don't see how maineman fixed the midterms to win a lousy $100 from you. He did not cheat.

The bet was cancelled before the midterms took place. It was cancelled because it was made on the condition that Maine shut up, and he refused to. I even did the honorable thing and called his attention to this several times, he acknowledged that, he would abide by this in the future... he didn't... he couldn't help himself... I knew he wouldn't be able to.

I bet if you go search FP.com for "bet" and Dixie and Maine, you'll find an enormous number of posts, and an incredible amount of discussion pertaining to this wager, and none of that is being factored into your judgemental conclusions. If I gave a flying rat's fuck what you thought, I would run off over to FP.com and search out where Maine agreed to this condition, and therefore broke the terms of the wager, but I really don't care. You are free to think whatever you want to about me, you will anyway.

I'm not trying to 'spin' or 'save face' or whatever... I honestly didn't expect to come here and explain my side of any damn thing, and get support or acknowledgement, it doesn't happen in this universe. I just wanted to explain that it was not 'welching' and that I don't 'welch' on bets, nor am I in the practice of, or have the reputation of, cancelling wagers because terms were broken. Most of the people I bet with are honorable, and cancelling the bet isn't ever an issue.
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You cannot simply cancel a bet, like the one that was made and clearly outlined above, on conditions that you come up with after the bet is made.

I couldn't bet you, fair and square, that Indianapolis was going to lose and then, prior to the game withdraw the bet without a mutual agreement with you. Period. Even if you were mean to me, even if I didn't like you, even if you insulted me. I could not withdraw the bet.

A bet is a bet Dix.

You made a bet, you lost. You cannot change the terms of a bet after it is made, unless it is mutual. But once you agreed to the bet, you agreed only to the bet. Any condition you create thereafter is totally, absolutely, positively irrelevant, until it is agreed on by your opponent.

So far as I can tell, that never happened. If I'm wrong about that, correct me. If not, you should pay your damned bills.


Pay the man.
 
beefy...thank you for your efforts on my behalf, but anyone would go broke if they made their living winning bets from Dixie.

I never expected him to pay from the very beginning. I knew he was a welcher...and I KNEW that I would not have to pay myself. Trust me...I never made any plans for $100 that I knew I would never get in the first place.

It is a bit humorous to watch him spin and tap dance.... Hell ..that's one of the main reasons I visit this site - to watch that pathetic slanderous racist bigoted redneck asshole tapdance with both his feet in his mouth.

It boosts my ego immensely and reaffirms how glad I am that I am a democrat that lives in the north!
 
beefy...thank you for your efforts on my behalf, but anyone would go broke if they made their living winning bets from Dixie.

I didn't do it on your behalf, in fact it has nothing to do with you. Its a matter of principle. You make a bet, you keep it.


It boosts my ego immensely and reaffirms how glad I am that I am a democrat that lives in the north!

The last thing you need is an ego boost.
 
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