APP - American Conservatives are Embarrassing

midcan5

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"By an accident of birth, I fall into the White Guy category. To keep this on a positive note, let’s call it my brand. And that means that if other people with my outward characteristics do dumb-ass things, it reflects on my brand." Scott Adams

White conservative Americans have become an embarrassment. I know that's not politically correct, but face it folks we are starting to look like a nation of idiots. Think about that for a minute. Our white conservative Congress is voting again to repeal healthcare, you know healthcare that is slavery. Texas Governor Greg Abbott wants to make America Somalia, no need to obey federal laws - articles of Confederation redux. Kansas Governor Brownback bought into the insane idea idea that reducing taxes brings forth magic. Now the state is a mess. Kansas is just one state run by a white conservative republican. Was Brownback alive in 2008 and 2009 or was he lost in some imaginary supply side universe. Laffer is so appropriate a name.

What's the matter with white America is the question of the day. Recently a group of white militia conservatives took over a garage sized nature center in Oregon because they have the mental acuity of a spoiled five year old. Give children guns and they soon think they are warriors. Reminds you of a five year old who won't come in for dinner. One wonders what the idiots will do when tourist season arrives, maybe they'll give 'take over nation' demonstrations one garage at a time. If another American had asked for this land it would be welfare, how is it America belongs to the select few white Americans? The nation's Indians should tell them they're way late.

Then we have Maine Governor Paul LePage, of course everyone knows racism is alive and well in America, that is except white Americans, they think they are colorblind, try really hard to forget their narratives. Didn't a Marxist Kenyan president change all that. One can only wonder at the level of insanity when a woman becomes president. She is white, will that help? Are you kidding me. Anyone watch the Benghazi hearing. If hate required a face there were plenty of opportunities. Can you spell just plan nuts. And Deez even got some votes.

Anyone watching the republican debates would marvel at the level of dialogue, when it isn't the same reduce taxes on corporations and the wealthy and the economic genie will appear, they are upping each other like some chest pumping pretend wrestler, bomb em all. Bomb em all, bomb em all, is it fear, paranoia, everything has become Munich. Have any of them served in the military, had they maybe a rational thought would arrive.

Have you seen the crowds at Trump rallies, cheering the blond platitude, an inherited real-estate developer, now the darling of white conservative America. Trump engages in so much hyperbole, historians and sane media journalists now require therapy. While Nazi references are badly overused by these conservative republicans, recently a Muslim woman stood up and was escorted to door, that wasn't the proper sign of allegiance to a mountebank wearing a trite slogan. Remember the Gay soldier. Booing in this crowd is a substitute for thought.

And this comedy of white conservative sloganeering would just be funny until someone like Governor Rick Snyder poisons the people of Flint, Michigan to save a buck. Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker isn't just dumb, he wants all the citizens of Wisconsin on an equal level. Why fund education when anyone who isn't as extreme as you is just not conservative enough. How many teachers does Governor Rick Perry want to fire, he can't remember that either. And then there is Rick Scott. Any need to go on.

Have you noticed none of the republican governors support education. This would be funny until you look at the warriors in Oregon, or the tea party signs to keep government out of their medicare, or poisoned water, add tornadoes and floods which only matter if you happen to be in one. Education is power, it is feared by the powerful for it focuses attention on cause rather than aimless finger pointing. Pay close attention to Governors and candidates who listen the likes of the Koch brothers or Sheldon Adelson.

"If we held the White House, taxes would be lower, spending slowed and the military strengthened...." Governor Nikki R. Haley of South Carolina responds to the SOTU. She forgot 'freedom.' If a listener read history they know how often these same words are used, and they'd know too how meaningless they are. Can you spell voodoo or oligarchy.

Idiocy mixed with fear is so dangerous a mindset, anyone find those WMDs or witness the wonderful spread of democracy in the Middle East? If you have, let the rest of America know. So long as big money buffoons, corporate lobbies, think tanks that do anything but think exist, militiamen armed with AK15s isn't a reality show, it is reality.

It would give solace to the sane American if after President Obama's term, sanity in America returned, but given the House under 'missing a heart Ryan' is still voting to end slavery, aka healthcare, no hope is in sight. It has to be clear now, elect a conservative white governor and your state gets dumber, you lose healthcare, your environment is polluted, and your state goes into massive debt. All the while they throw out, weakness, appeasement, surrender, Chamberlain, again and again, is there any hope white America.

If anyone has an idea on how sane white Americans, who still believe in a land of promise, inclusion, fairness, and accomplishment can separate themselves from dumb white America. Please, please let America know. By the way, suggested forehead tattoos, would help but people do occasionally change. Imagine for a minute the Donald's audience cheering bigotry, slogans waving, 'make America great again', Palin rambling, dissenting Americans booed, and you witness the absurd theater white conservative republicans have created. And so it goes....

Source Information:

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/136879450111/working-on-the-white-guy-brand
http://www.alternet.org/story/150392/the_8_worst_governors_in_america
http://www.salon.com/2016/01/14/tha...ulous_you_and_the_conservative_movement_look/
http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/156038
https://aeon.co/opinions/why-bullshit-is-no-laughing-matter


Reading

'Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked the Middle Class' by Ian Haney López
'The Rhetoric of Reaction: Perversity, Futility, Jeopardy' Albert O. Hirschman
'Invisible Hands: The Businessmen's Crusade Against the New Deal' Kim Phillips-Fein
'It's Even Worse Than It Looks: How the American Constitutional System Collided With the New Politics of Extremism' by Thomas E. Mann, Norman J. Ornstein
'Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong' by James W. Loewen
'Idiot America: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free' by Charles P. Pierce
'Liberty Under Siege: American Politics, 1976-1988' by Walter Karp
'Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming' by Naomi Oreskes, Erik M. M. Conway
'American High: The Years of Confidence, 1945-1960' by William L. O'Neill
'A Bubble in Time: America During the Interwar Years, 1989-2001' by William L. O'Neill
'Coming Apart: An Informal History of America in the 1960s' by William L. O'Neill


'The American conservative has become a sort of trained bumpkin, they outsource their work and pay them nothing and he unconsciously blames government when she doesn't blame some racial or ethnic group. Years of training have made them puppets. One could say corporate puppets, the corporations play them like children. Has the conservative always been this naive a tool of others? Maybe they have, for power knows all you need to do is have an enemy to occupy them. When it isn't government it's progress, or for some conservatives it's another human being of difference. I guess when one's mind is empty of education or history, it gives comfort to know satan caused all that is wrong. Satan can be whatever the powers that be tell them. No need to name names' mc5


And I give you this idiot to add to the point. http://www.sltrib.com/home/3441922-155/story.html
 
'Can America's political discourse get any cruder?'

"Forgotten by the fevered crowd was the supposedly bedrock conservative principle that people are responsible for their own actions, and that it's time to stop blaming society."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/neil-macdonald-sarah-palin-1.3416452


Conservatives must now face the monster they have created after sixty years of disparaging government, why all of a sudden would they think their idea of government is better than another. Nations deteriorate from the inside, the destruction of America started in earnest with Ronald Reagan and the rise of oligarchy. Sixty years on, an education that excluded diversity, reality, science, history, and every other American value has had great impact. Mirrors are obviously missing at the National Review and other conservative locations. The scary thing is, Trump and Cruz could actually be more extreme and they'd still appeal to the conservative American. Doubters check Iowa voting. The apologetics begin.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-potemkin-village-of-conservatism/
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/movement-conservatism-vs-trump/
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/millman/talking-trumps-chances/
 
Embarrassing or even criminal?

"This Was Done, Like So Many Things These Days, So the Rich Could Get a Big Tax Break. When Governor Snyder took office in 2011, one of the first things he did was to get a multi-billion dollar tax break passed by the Republican legislature for the wealthy and for corporations. But with less tax revenues, that meant he had to start cutting costs. So, many things – schools, pensions, welfare, safe drinking water – were slashed. Then he invoked an executive privilege to take over cities (all of them majority black) by firing the mayors and city councils whom the local people had elected, and installing his cronies to act as “dictators” over these cities. Their mission? Cut services to save money so he could give the rich even more breaks. That’s where the idea of switching Flint to river water came from. To save $15 million! It was easy. Suspend democracy. Cut taxes for the rich. Make the poor drink toxic river water. And everybody’s happy."

'Except those who were poisoned in the process. All 102,000 of them. In the richest country in the world.'

http://michaelmoore.com/10FactsOnFlint/
 
To post threads about how certain ideological groups are embarrassing to America, because it's unlikely to result in any untoward discourse.
 
Midcan is trolling and I think that skirts the purpose of APP.

You know what's embarrassing? Pooping yourself in the check out line at Wallmart. Now that's embarrassing.

Having different political beliefs from someone else is not.

A troll, oh I'm so hurt....hahahaha. Pooping and beliefs, so large a difference. Well someone uses another word in OP linked below, take your pick.

“I love the poorly educated.” Donald Trump

'Trump's rise proves we're full of loud, illiterate and credulous people — and he's a mirror of them'

"I hate to have to say it, but the conclusion stares us in the face: We’re a stupid country, full of loud, illiterate and credulous people. Trump has marched straight to the nomination without offering anything like a platform or a plan. With a vocabulary of roughly a dozen words – wall, Mexicans, low-energy, loser, Muslims, stupid, China, negotiate, deals, America, great, again – he’s bamboozled millions of Americans. And it’s not just splenetic conservatives supporting Trump or your garden-variety bigots (although that’s the center of his coalition), it’s also independents, pro-choice Republicans, and a subset of Reagan Democrats."

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/24/ame...ph_makes_it_official_were_a_nation_of_idiots/


"What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried?" Abraham Lincoln Source: February 27, 1860 Cooper Union
 
A troll, oh I'm so hurt....hahahaha. Pooping and beliefs, so large a difference. Well someone uses another word in OP linked below, take your pick.

“I love the poorly educated.” Donald Trump

'Trump's rise proves we're full of loud, illiterate and credulous people — and he's a mirror of them'

"I hate to have to say it, but the conclusion stares us in the face: We’re a stupid country, full of loud, illiterate and credulous people. Trump has marched straight to the nomination without offering anything like a platform or a plan. With a vocabulary of roughly a dozen words – wall, Mexicans, low-energy, loser, Muslims, stupid, China, negotiate, deals, America, great, again – he’s bamboozled millions of Americans. And it’s not just splenetic conservatives supporting Trump or your garden-variety bigots (although that’s the center of his coalition), it’s also independents, pro-choice Republicans, and a subset of Reagan Democrats."

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/24/ame...ph_makes_it_official_were_a_nation_of_idiots/


"What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried?" Abraham Lincoln Source: February 27, 1860 Cooper Union

If only people would get behind those who consider themselves the Wizards of Smart. Those educated at the BEST schools and only believe the RIGHT things. What a wonderful world it would be. How dare these people have their own beliefs in how they think the country should be run.
 
If only people would get behind those who consider themselves the Wizards of Smart. Those educated at the BEST schools and only believe the RIGHT things. What a wonderful world it would be. How dare these people have their own beliefs in how they think the country should be run.

That makes no sense, there may be something there but it is hidden to all. Please clarify.

PS please stop censoring freedom of speech in America, allow everyone to chime in on your threads, and maybe then you'd learn clarity.
 
That makes no sense, there may be something there but it is hidden to all. Please clarify.

PS please stop censoring freedom of speech in America, allow everyone to chime in on your threads, and maybe then you'd learn clarity.

I apologize if the sarcasm was lost on you. You see the left doesn't think it is enough to just disagree. They actually see themselves as more virtuous and intellectually superior.

PS

Nobody is being censored
 
I apologize if the sarcasm was lost on you. You see the left doesn't think it is enough to just disagree. They actually see themselves as more virtuous and intellectually superior.

PS Nobody is being censored

You do realize that kind of thinking can excuse anything at all. Oh and when others are banned from participating in a public conversation that is censorship. If circle jerks turn you on, please do it off line.
 
You do realize that kind of thinking can excuse anything at all. Oh and when others are banned from participating in a public conversation that is censorship. If circle jerks turn you on, please do it off line.

You keep using that word but I don't think it means what you think it means
 
You keep using that word but I don't think it means what you think it means

What word?

raise your hand if you care that midcan is embarassed.......

Childish but telling.

'Are conservatives ever right?'

"The question isn’t meant to suggest that liberals are never wrong. But reviewing the last few decades of conservative policy initiatives—or their objections over that timespan to policies they hate—shows a consistent pattern of failure: predictions never pan out, and intended results turn to catastrophic flops."

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/politics/2014/11/conservative-nonsense-political-history
 
Censorship is the suppression and control of information, banning others from the conversation on a 'public forum' is censorship. I'm not sure why that confuses you? You have every right to your speech but when you control the conversation you are limiting speech. JPP has always protected free and open speech, it is one of the reasons I still come back. Other sites actually ban you, as 'redstates' and 'debate policy' have banned me. Conservatives want speech control but such control is un-American.
 
Censorship is the suppression and control of information, banning others from the conversation on a 'public forum' is censorship. I'm not sure why that confuses you? You have every right to your speech but when you control the conversation you are limiting speech. JPP has always protected free and open speech, it is one of the reasons I still come back. Other sites actually ban you, as 'redstates' and 'debate policy' have banned me. Conservatives want speech control but such control is un-American.

Sorry, but I cannot allow you to be so casual with the language in your effort to make a political point that does not exist.

First of all, you have no rights on this board. It is a privately run board. Your and my existence is at the sole pleasure of the board owner. As such, we have no 1st Amendment rights on this board.

Secondly, consider a thread in which you are thread banned a conversation that I wish you to not be part of. It is no different than in your personal life. Do you think you have a right to be a part of any conversation you choose? If two parties are engaging in a political discussion and wish to do so without you, are you being censored? It is ludicrous to suggest you are.

Lastly, and most importantly your own definition of censorship refutes your claim that you are being censored by me. Just because you are not able to post your opinions in my thread does not mean you are forbidden to post your opinions about that topic. You are free to start your own thread about the topic and post whatever you feel like. I cannot control that, nor would I even want to. So you see, even on this board, I have ZERO control over what you post other than my own threads.

Do you somehow think that your right to express your thoughts supersede my rights to choose whether I want to hear them or not? Are you so enamored with your own feelings of self importance that you cannot fathom the idea that some people just don't care what you think about a given issue? I think you should take this as a moment of self reflection and realize that you aren't that important and what you have to say is not that profound.

I thread ban you for many reasons

1) You remind me a left wing Dixie. Lots of words signifying nothing
2) You are boring
3) And this is the most important one of all. I know it annoys you.

Have a blessed censorship free day
 
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