American Suicide Bombers

AssHatZombie said:
Dutch Uncle said:
What you read into my posts isn't my problem. Cite the quote where you claim I did this and I'll 'splain it to you, Lucy.

So that's the attraction for you? Not that I'm judging. If you and Pilecki want to exchange handys, that's on you.
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words mean things, dipshit. stand behind your implications and stop being a twatty fuckstick.
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So you can't do it. Figures. Dude, I know times are hard right now and that you are worried, but habitually drinking so early in the day is going to do more harm than good.
 
Dark Soul said:
Stay home if you're scared. My life hasn't changed one bit.
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Agreed anyone that is concerned about being at risk should stay home. If people want out they should go out. Your life hasn't changed because your wife works and you polish your cars. It's clear you didn't say "Our life hasn't changed" with her being a doctor.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed anyone that is concerned about being at risk should stay home. If people want out they should go out. Your life hasn't changed because your wife works and you polish your cars. It's clear you didn't say "Our life hasn't changed" with her being a doctor.
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I work supporting the construction industry; deemed essential by our Democrat Governor. My lovely wife's career is essential as well. Unlike many, we chose wisely.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Hyperbole or reality? You decide. In this well-reasoned opinion piece, the author makes the argument that the morons (my word) protesting state protective measures are the moral equivalent of a suicide bomber.

"The Post reported Sunday far-right militias, led by three brothers, have used Facebook to organize “anti-quarantine protests” at state capitols around the country. Tens of thousands have joined their Facebook group, giving the impression that a “populist libertarianism” sentiment is emerging more than opinion surveys would suggest.
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"This activity is being amplified by the president, who appeared last week on Twitter to encourage armed resistance to state-based initiatives aimed at containing the novel coronavirus pandemic with orders to stay home. The “protests” were in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and others swing states Donald Trump needs to win reelection.

"Meanwhile, the Pew Center, which is the gold standard for measuring public opinion, released a new survey in which 66 percent of Americans fear their state governments will lift restrictions “too quickly.” Sixty-five percent said “Trump’s initial response” to the COVID-19 pandemic was “too slow.” Moreover, 73 percent said the worst is yet to come. (Implicit is the widespread doubt of Washington’s ability to face the challenge.)

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"To be sure, “silent majority” is what fascists have said for decades when they need to contravene a rapidly changing view on, say, an overseas war going south. “Silent majority” is what a literal minority invokes to smash a literal majority in the face. Even so, Nixon’s words should resonate right now when 41,000 Americans are dead from COVID-19. “If a vocal minority, however fervent its cause, prevails over reason and the will of the majority, this nation has no future as a free society,” Nixon said. Individuals can’t be truly free. In the collective, however, can be found the meaning of freedom.

"In this sense, the protesters have it backwards. They believe (or pretend to believe; more on that in a moment) that government coercion is the opposite of individual freedom. Stay-at-home orders infringe their liberty. If they want to risk getting sick—or dying—that’s their right. No government has the authority to tell them otherwise.

"This thinking ignores the fact that one person’s right to liberty ends with another person’s right to security, and that all governments are charged with balancing all of those rights for everyone’s sake. (Whether a government is striking the right balance is usually reflected by the majority view.) For this reason, coercion is not the opposite of freedom during a pandemic. Coercion, at least for now, is in the service of freedom. Only when everyone is acting in everyone else’s interest can this crisis be overcome."

https://stoehr.substack.com/p/trumps-armed-and-infectious-insurgents
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No worries. Just protect yourself and count the days.

[h=1]A man who called COVID-19 a 'political ploy' on Facebook died from the virus. His family canceled his funeral livestream after 'misguided anger' from strangers.[/h]
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Jack said:
If the rest of us are 'social distancing' and practicing proper hygiene, how can they 'infect' us?
Trumpet, try to look at the Big Picture. This is an opportunity to improve the overall gene pool.
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Darwin would be taking a victory lap.
 
Dark Soul said:
I work supporting the construction industry; deemed essential by our Democrat Governor. My lovely wife's career is essential as well. Unlike many, we chose wisely.
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As you seem compelled to keep reminding everyone. Now remind those who forgot about how many cars you have. ;)
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's an excellent opportunity for medical, psychological and sociological studies by pure observation. The different states are providing the laboratories.
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Well that would be great, so long as the lab rats stay out of reach of innocents.
 
Dark Soul said:
Two will be for sale very soon, the Corvette and the Jag. Your envy of my life and good fortune amuses me greatly.
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Old lady gave you the ultimatum, huh? You're the envious type, not me. I'm more of the "Jesus Fucking Kerrist! I'm glad I'm not fucking 30 anymore. What an asshole!" type.
 
Althea said:
Interesting. So he doesn't think people were training dogs before he came up with 'his' theory?
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Although I know of dog studies, I'm not sure if he worked with them. Mostly rats and Pigeons because they were easier to control for genetic factors. Obviously the implication and interest here, which he and others studied, is how those behaviors compared to human beings. A lot of them do. :)
 
Phantasmal said:
That’s my concern, essential workers, families at home. It would be nice to have testing.
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That's coming sooner than a cure or a vaccine. Still, testing doesn't protect, it only informs. Anyone can contract the disease and pass it to almost every person they know before showing symptoms. Sure, tests will start to pick that up identifying the area as a hotspot, but everyone infected will still have the disease.

I was chatting with my millennial sister. She and her husband had done very well for themselves at under 40 but this shutdown has hammered them very hard. He could lose his business, and she her job because both of their businesses are very people-oriented and deemed non-essential.

Both she and her husband are very liberal even compared to other liberals but now she's talking more like a conservative, "We can't stay shut down. We need to get back to work." I told her I agreed. She said they'd rather work and pay the fines than lose their business. I told her that if enough businesses opened, legal or not, the city or state wouldn't have the resources or will to prosecute everyone...especially since they were not paying for those businesses. This wasn't eminent domain, which also requires fair compensation. The point that idiots had cut taxes so low and increased their spending so much that our nation couldn't even pay its bills before COVID-19 was addressed as was Trump is now just printing money. Almost 3 Trillion dollars worth....and we aren't done yet even if the throttle was full open again. I told her the nation would have to bite the bullet and kiss 3M-9M dead Americans if a cure or vaccine wasn't found, but we are witnessing a watershed moment in American history. We can't stop what is happening now just like we couldn't stop the planes on 9/11. What is done is done. Like then, what will happen after the crisis is over will be millions of Americans screaming "WTF?" at their representatives. "How did we let this happen? Why weren't we prepared? We were warned last fall and you did nothing for six months! Why?" Stuff like that and the result will be our nation changes course just like we did in the years following 9/11.

The good news is that Millennials might end up being revered as this century's "Greatest Generation". What made the "Greatest Generation" great was adversity and "adversity breeds character"; the triple whammy of WWI, the Great Depression and WWII, all within 30 years. The most Millennials don't remember or never knew a world without "A War on Terror". Most were young adults just starting their lives when the Great Recession hit preceded by the Housing Mortgage and Bank crises. We're still exiting the aftermath when we elect a fucking moron as President who cuts even more taxes and raises spending to record heights. Now he's just printing money, which could cause another Depression. Still, "Greatest Generation" is an awesome label!
 
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