An interview with Musk and what DOGE is doing

[T. A. Gardner]

Can you tell us who this " Left " is?
I know no Independent / Dem that isn't for cutting waste and fraud, if you are talking about the FAR FAR left, please make that clear to people.
As I said I know no one that doesn't want waste and fraud cut, but again you don't take down a third of the forest with a bulldozer when a hand saw would do the job. going in and just cutting and cutting BEFORE you find the waste and fraud can hurt a lot of people that count on government programs to survive.

Sure.

The Left politically in general want to establish a society where outcomes are equal and government is paternal / maternal in nature. In terms of equality, the Left wants to use government to force people who do and make more to support those who have and do less so that everyone in society has an equal amount of material goods. They seek to do the same in terms of things like education level and access, social and emotional outcomes, etc.
To do so, the Left will use a vast and invasive, usually highly authoritarian government to ensure these outcomes occur. Homogeneity and stability of society is more important to them than personal innovation and growth. Members of society, for the most part, can lead an almost child-like existence with little personal responsibility or effort put into their life.

The difference between the far Left, and a less virulent Left, is only a matter of degree. The Left, in general, will ignore some level of graft, corruption, and criminalization of society accepting that as normal while striving to make society, as a whole, more homogenous. That is, they recognize that people as they exist are not yet the equivalent of worker bees or ants, and that they cannot as a result eliminate all the bad in a society. They see it as the price they pay for having the vast majority of society "fair and equal."

 

[Tbird19482]

Sure.

The Left politically in general want to establish a society where outcomes are equal and government is paternal / maternal in nature. In terms of equality, the Left wants to use government to force people who do and make more to support those who have and do less so that everyone in society has an equal amount of material goods. They seek to do the same in terms of things like education level and access, social and emotional outcomes, etc.
To do so, the Left will use a vast and invasive, usually highly authoritarian government to ensure these outcomes occur. Homogeneity and stability of society is more important to them than personal innovation and growth. Members of society, for the most part, can lead an almost child-like existence with little personal responsibility or effort put into their life.

The difference between the far Left, and a less virulent Left, is only a matter of degree. The Left, in general, will ignore some level of graft, corruption, and criminalization of society accepting that as normal while striving to make society, as a whole, more homogenous. That is, they recognize that people as they exist are not yet the equivalent of worker bees or ants, and that they cannot as a result eliminate all the bad in a society. They see it as the price they pay for having the vast majority of society "fair and equal."

Again I do NOT know one person that doesn't want WASTE AND FRAUD found and cut.
But going in and cutting a lot of programs FIRST then after hurting a lot of poor, and low income workers then go start to look for fraud and waste is NOT the way to do it.
You look for fraud and waste FIRST then cut it not the other way around.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Again I do NOT know one person that doesn't want WASTE AND FRAUD found and cut.
But going in and cutting a lot of programs FIRST then after hurting a lot of poor, and low income workers then go start to look for fraud and waste is NOT the way to do it.
You look for fraud and waste FIRST then cut it not the other way around.

You have a Leftist view of this. You want a massive social-welfare state to help the less capable and unproductive whereas I see that as a form of waste. Giving handouts to losers doesn't make them winners, it makes them better off losers. It's just a form of "participation trophy." What you are doing is incentivizing mediocrity and sloth.

Aside from that, DOGE is finding fraud, waste, and abuse first then cutting it. The cuts they're making are not random or universal.

 

[Tbird19482]

You have a Leftist view of this. You want a massive social-welfare state to help the less capable and unproductive whereas I see that as a form of waste. Giving handouts to losers doesn't make them winners, it makes them better off losers. It's just a form of "participation trophy." What you are doing is incentivizing mediocrity and sloth.

Aside from that, DOGE is finding fraud, waste, and abuse first then cutting it. The cuts they're making are not random or universal.

IF you say so.

 

[Tbird19482]

You have a Leftist view of this. You want a massive social-welfare state to help the less capable and unproductive whereas I see that as a form of waste. Giving handouts to losers doesn't make them winners, it makes them better off losers. It's just a form of "participation trophy." What you are doing is incentivizing mediocrity and sloth.

Aside from that, DOGE is finding fraud, waste, and abuse first then cutting it. The cuts they're making are not random or universal.

and NO they went in and cut FIRST then started looking for waste and fraud where have you been hiding under a rock?

 

[AProudLefty]

You have a Leftist view of this. You want a massive social-welfare state to help the less capable and unproductive whereas I see that as a form of waste. Giving handouts to losers doesn't make them winners, it makes them better off losers. It's just a form of "participation trophy." What you are doing is incentivizing mediocrity and sloth.

Aside from that, DOGE is finding fraud, waste, and abuse first then cutting it. The cuts they're making are not random or universal.

What losers?

 

[Tbird19482]

What losers?

I guess he thinks the hard working low income workers, the disabled on SSI. and the over all poor people are losers.

 

[FastLane]

Too funny! AProudLefty has finally become desperate enough that he is going to try his hand at fear-mongering and panic-peddling.

@JPP - please let me know if this terror super-spreader is working on you.

Nope

 

[FastLane]

Too funny! AProudLefty has finally become desperate enough that he is going to try his hand at fear-mongering and panic-peddling.

@JPP - please let me know if this terror super-spreader is working on you.

Yes DOGE cut a few folks then hired them back it taught them a lesson. If they cut someone they later find that they need they can hire them back.

 

[martin]

Elections have consequences.

Seldom as shitty as now.

 

[Into the Night]

Can you tell us who this " Left " is?

You...and other Democrats.

I know no Independent / Dem that isn't for cutting waste and fraud,

Blatant lie (denial).

if you are talking about the FAR FAR left, please make that clear to people.

A long time ago in galaxy far, far away...

As I said I know no one that doesn't want waste and fraud cut, but again you don't take down a third of the forest with a bulldozer when a hand saw would do the job. going in and just cutting and cutting BEFORE you find the waste and fraud can hurt a lot of people that count on government programs to survive.

What are YOU hallucinating NOW, Tball???

 

[Into the Night]

While you didn't say a word to anyone about fraud, waste, and abuse. Now you're hear lighting your hair on fire about fraud, waste, and abuse. How rich.

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

Spoken like a true cultist.

Buzzword fallacy. Mantra 1e. That won't work, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

Instructed?

Too funny.

Mindlessly echoing what Democrats told you to say is YOUR PROBLEM, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

If Musky is ending fraud, why didn't he charge the criminals who are doing it? He could recover the money stolen and take the perps to court. That is how you fix that. It is not close to what Musk is doing. He lies, Trumpys buy.

Elon won't be filing the criminal charges, Sybil. He's just conducting the audits.

 

[Nordberg]

You have a Leftist view of this. You want a massive social-welfare state to help the less capable and unproductive whereas I see that as a form of waste. Giving handouts to losers doesn't make them winners, it makes them better off losers. It's just a form of "participation trophy." What you are doing is incentivizing mediocrity and sloth.

Aside from that, DOGE is finding fraud, waste, and abuse first then cutting it. The cuts they're making are not random or universal.

DOGE says they are finding waste and fraud. Have they started one court case to punish a person guilty of fraud? That is why you do with fraudsters. Why isn't he doing that? Easy, he says he is finding it and people like you buy it 100 percent. He is just slashing workers to justify another huge tax cut for people like him. You are fooled so easily.

 

[IBDaMann]

If Musky is ending fraud, why didn't he charge the criminals who are doing it?

Elon isn't charged with ending fraud, Nordberg, he's charged with finding it.

He could recover the money stolen and take the perps to court. That is how you fix that. It is not close to what Musk is doing.

Nordberg, Pam Bondi is the Attorney General, not Elon, although it's easy for leftists to get them confused.

 

[IBDaMann]

Seldom as shitty as now.

... for the DNC, absolutely; for America, the results are astronomically positive.

 

[Hume]

Watch the embedded video and for those opposed to Trump and Musk trying to eliminate fraud, waste, and abuse, try to refute it.

Elon Musk goes behind-the-scenes at DOGE, unveils biggest source of fraud

DOGE chair Elon Musk expressed that his team of about 100 employees starts identifying alleged spending waste and fraud by following the money.

www.foxbusiness.com

Fuck Musk. Fuck Trump.