Another appalling distraction from the issues

Darth Hussein Omar said:
If Trump wins it will be inspite of the media. Ironically, Hillary herself may be his best hope. It would take something big enough that the media would be forced to talk about it.
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I wouldn't count on an October surprise. Clinton has all kinds of negatives.
But Trump won't shut up long enough for those to be focused on
 
Thing1 said:
Part of the job of President is knowing the ramifications of the words you use.

No one wants America to be doing damage control for its leader every other day.
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You mean like "what difference at this point does it make"?
 
christiefan915 said:
Why just the "2nd amendment people", whatever that's supposed to mean? Why not all conservative voters?

Btw, Trump doesn't do "issues." He does fulminations, lol.
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A) she does deserve to die a traitors death, that bitch has blood on her hands and if elected will likely not live to see a second term.
B) 2nd amendment supporters are going to be the ones fighting in the courts and at the ballot boxes to keep their 2nd amendment rights, obviously.
 
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anatta said:
it'swhat happens when you lose control of your message. Do you see Clinton saying ANYTHING spontaneous?
The few times she does to excuse her emails she steps in it. The difference is the press is servile to Clinton, and hostile to Trump.
Clinton knows to stay on message.

Only way out, is to start acting lie a traditional candidate ; after all Trump has the spontaneity down,
he needs to learn to stay relentlessly on message
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Do you still hold out hope that will ever happen??
 
Bill said:
LOl, welcome to the club.:)
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it stinks. I love the idea of 3rd partys and if I thought I was building something towards the future -i'd be Ok with that.

But it's an essentially meaningless vote.
Johnson and Stein and the Green and Libertarians will fade into the mist
 
I believe we would be better off w/ a parliamentary system (like all the other democracies) as opposed to a two corp duopoly
 
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Bill said:
I believe we would be better off w/ a parliamentary system (like all the other democracies) as opposed to a two corp duopoly
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normally I wouldn't agree (in theory) but this stale assed worthless crap we call our political system should be blown up into smithereens.
I'm in.
 
christiefan915 said:
Why just the "2nd amendment people", whatever that's supposed to mean? Why not all conservative voters?

Btw, Trump doesn't do "issues." He does fulminations, lol.
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It was clear enough for me, there is a whole industry in the US dedicated to preventing gun control and asserting the primacy of the 2nd amendment.
 
anatta said:
I wouldn't count on an October surprise. Clinton has all kinds of negatives.
But Trump won't shut up long enough for those to be focused on
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It's a double edged sword with Trump: when he's not giving them something to attack him with they conjure it up. And *none of it* is an issue. The anti-Trump and pro-Hillary media hacks manufacture outrage to deflect from the issues.

But yeah, I see little hope of an October surprise. What would it take to sink Hillary lol? Seriously.

There's good evidence she colluded with the Russians on a uranium deal that enriched the Clinton Slush Fund. And she did it as Sec State[!]. There's an excellent chance her extreme recklessness with top secret information got an Iranian asset killed. Her private server scandal would have landed the average American in federal prison---and all but the partisan hacks know it. That didn't do it. The list goes on.

None of it matters. It's all about Trump maybe implying this or that or maybe offending a minority group, depending on how you interpret what he said. Meanwhile, Hillary skates right on by.

There'll be no October surprise. I can't imagine what it would be.
 
I don't know what the stupid slob meant.


So here, I just wrote this down today. Hillary wants to raise taxes -- it's a comparison. I want to lower them. Hillary wants to expand regulations, which she does bigly. Can you believe that? I will reduce them very, very substantially, could be as much as 70 to 75 percent. Hillary wants to shut down energy production. I want to expand it. Lower electric bills, folks! Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick --if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know. But I'll tell you what, that will be a horrible day, if -- if -- Hillary gets to put her judges in.
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He is trying to do some fear mongering. Hillary has no chance or seeming intent to try to abolish the second amendment. IDK, maybe if she could wave a wand but I am sure she realizes she does not have the political capital in the real world.

I don't doubt she will appoint judges that show deference to the state's gun control schemes.

His explanation is actually somewhat plausible because the gun rights advocates would crush any attempt to abolish the 2nd amendment and may well be able to influence Hillary's judicial picks. But then that does not really fit with his fear mongering. Was he walking it back?
 
Hasa Diga Eebowai said:
I don't know what the stupid slob meant.




He is trying to do some fear mongering. Hillary has no chance or seeming intent to try to abolish the second amendment. IDK, maybe if she could wave a wand but I am sure she realizes she does not have the political capital in the real world.

I don't doubt she will appoint judges that show deference to the state's gun control schemes.

His explanation is actually somewhat plausible because the gun rights advocates would crush any attempt to abolish the 2nd amendment and may well be able to influence Hillary's judicial picks. But then that does not really fit with his fear mongering. Was he walking it back?
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You're not suggesting Trump invented fear mongering, right lol?

Painting you're opponent in threatening terms is standard political fare. Remember republicans pushing granny down the cliff and poisoning the water---starving the school children and ad nauseum?
 
anatta said:
Olympic reset is this last chance, and the press is not going to help out
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Why should the press "help out" when the message Trump is sending out is for gun nuts to assassinate Hillary if she's elected?

Shouldn't that type of outlandish hyperbole be exposed?
 
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