Another Tea Party lie exposed!

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
And you've based this statement of yours on what? Some BS spewed out by the Koch Brothers or Roger Ailes' media? Read the article and do your own homework, you willfully ignorant neocon/teabagger parrot!

Let me see, I base this on what's happened at the company I work for, information from other company's I do business with, TV, radio, etc.

Facts?

Yeah, real facts that can be documented...not some drivel from some delusional "Father Knows Best" freak. Seems you don't deal with documented facts, just what you can pull out of your ass. Typical.

 

[Liberty]

You grew up in the one of the most heavily government subsidized eras in this county's history....the Post WW2 era. GI bills, student loans, etc. You also grew up in an era where black folk where fighting against discrimination in the job market, the housing market, Jim Crow laws, etc. As for a true "free market", just do a little research as to what happened to a guy named Tucker and his car design.

A matter of fact, a matter of history.....minus your simple assed "Father Know's Best" fantasy.

Hey dude,

We haven't had a free market in over 100 years. I know that's news to you, but what the ****.

And just because some bad things have happened over the life of this country, doesn't mean that free market is to blame. Our government has ignored a lot of our constitution for over a hundred years, and marxism doesn't make things better, or right. It's our doom if we don't get rid of it.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
You grew up in the one of the most heavily government subsidized eras in this county's history....the Post WW2 era. GI bills, student loans, etc. You also grew up in an era where black folk where fighting against discrimination in the job market, the housing market, Jim Crow laws, etc. As for a true "free market", just do a little research as to what happened to a guy named Tucker and his car design.

A matter of fact, a matter of history.....minus your simple assed "Father Know's Best" fantasy.

Hey dude,

We haven't had a free market in over 100 years. I know that's news to you, but what the ****.

And just because some bad things have happened over the life of this country, doesn't mean that free market is to blame. Our government has ignored a lot of our constitution for over a hundred years, and marxism doesn't make things better, or right. It's our doom if we don't get rid of it.

Once again, as the chronology of the posts shows, YOU make a statement that I shred with some simple fact based reference, but YOU don't have the cojones to admit error, so you merely shift the subject.
Reaganomics is the closest thing to "free market"....and THAT has been a royal fuck up. What we are living is the results of what a "free market" would look like....and dopes like you just can't stand to face reality. So you blow smoke and convoluted mantras to try and ease your mental pain.

Grow the fuck up, will ya please?

 

[Liberty]

WTF are you babbling about? Obviously, you cannot/ will not deal with the FACTS I put forth here, so you parrot the same old drivel that the Koch brothers and Walmart preach to you.

Think, you stupid SOB, THINK! If the gov't (local or fed) grants Walmart a tax break on property, then they can move right into a town, usurp the local stores with lower prices and not pay their workers a decent wage. Maximum profit to the owners, and everyone else is screwed.

Look it up stupid, or don't you have the guts?

Screw the Koch brothers. They're a couple of nationalist socialist. Grow up and realize that libertarians don't support, or think like them. You just show how stupid you are when you try to pin them next to us.

And screw Walmart. The only thing I like about walmart is "they don't let unions have a say in their business". I never shop there. Most of the peop[le working at walmarts around my city look like they couldn't get a job anywhere else but Walmart.

 

[Liberty]

Yeah, real facts that can be documented...not some drivel from some delusional "Father Knows Best" freak. Seems you don't deal with documented facts, just what you can pull out of your ass. Typical.

You asked.

 

[tekkychick]

You grew up in the one of the most heavily government subsidized eras in this county's history....the Post WW2 era. GI bills, student loans, housing loans, etc. You also grew up in an era where black folk where fighting against discrimination in the job market, the housing market, Jim Crow laws, etc. As for a true "free market", just do a little research as to what happened to a guy named Tucker and his car design.

A matter of fact, a matter of history.....minus your simple assed "Father Know's Best" fantasy.

Very well said. Thanks

 

[Liberty]

Once again, as the chronology of the posts shows, YOU make a statement that I shred with some simple fact based reference, but YOU don't have the cojones to admit error, so you merely shift the subject.
Reaganomics is the closest thing to "free market"....and THAT has been a royal fuck up. What we are living is the results of what a "free market" would look like....and dopes like you just can't stand to face reality. So you blow smoke and convoluted mantras to try and ease your mental pain.

Grow the fuck up, will ya please?

Reagon wasn't a free market guy, dude. At all. Got it.

Why do you use him as an example? Your youth shows clearly that you education is lacking.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Reagon wasn't a free market guy, dude. At all. Got it.

Why do you use him as an example? Your youth shows clearly that you education is lacking.

Sorry chump, but your BS and smoke blowing isn't cutting it here. I have provided FACTS to back up my initial posts, ZAPPA backed me up on a point as well with fact based references. All you've done is put forth some addled brain fantasy with a false condescending attitude because what? You're old? Naa-unnh son, I PROVED how your "version" of history doesn't jibe with reality. And as the chronology of the posts shows, what YOU can't disprove you merely avoid.

So unless you've got something knew to add, like an HONEST discussion of the FACTS put forth, I'll just sit back and watch you flail away with your antiquated attempts at insults. Carry on.

 

[NOVA]

Oh my God, it's that asshole who's stuck in some "Father Knows Best" fantasy from the 1950's! Clarabell? Jeezus gramps, get with the times.

FYI: The Tea Party dupes, like the Libertarian lunkheads and the neocons, all spout off some version of reaganomics...a "free market" utopia where ownership/inheritance and investor class rules and workmanship is left to their mercy.

In your fucked up world, Walmart is the model AND is to be defended it's "right" to treat it's workers as it sees fit.....so long as you ignore the FACT as to the piss poor pay and work rules it uses to make obscene profits for it's owners. And NO ONE claimed that Trader Joe's was paying an unfair wage at one time per se.....READ THE DAMNED ARTICLE, YOU TWIT!

If you don't like Clarabell, how about Bozo...maybe Dink or Doink...........no matter the name, you're a clown.....so,... is your op about Reagonomoics...or are you against a free market ? Make up you fuckin' mind already, pick a topic
and stick to it....
No one forces you to work at any job....take your pick...take the job that suits you....THATS the free market.....
Not enough pay, fuckin' quit....get a better job if someone will hire you.....THATS the free market....
Boss don't like you ?...No benefits ?...Overworked ?...Quit...see it you qualify for more pay, more benefits, and recess times....THATS the free market.

Thousands of companies pay good, solid wages....I never heard the Tea Party bitch about them or any company for that matter....
You claimed the Tea Party lied and immediately started on a story about Trader Joe....I just wanted to know what they said about TJ that was a lie.
Obviously, you can't express exactly wtf you mean to in writing.

 

[Taichiliberal]

If you don't like Clarabell, how about Bozo...maybe Dink or Doink...........no matter the name, you're a clown.....so,... is your op about Reagonomoics...or are you against a free market ? Make up you fuckin' mind already, pick a topic
and stick to it....
No one forces you to work at any job....take your pick...take the job that suits you....THATS the free market.....
Not enough pay, fuckin' quit....get a better job if someone will hire you.....THATS the free market....
Boss don't like you ?...No benefits ?...Overworked ?...Quit...see it you qualify for more pay, more benefits, and recess times....THATS the free market.

Thousands of companies pay good, solid wages....I never heard the Tea Party bitch about them or any company for that matter....
You claimed the Tea Party lied and immediately started on a story about Trader Joe....I just wanted to know what they said about TJ that was a lie.
Obviously, you can't express exactly wtf you mean to in writing.

Sorry gramps, but reaganomics was all about deregulation....the "free market" for corporatist. TFB if you don't like it, because it's a matter of history and a matter of fact.

Read Zappa's post, it explains what Tea Party toadies had to do with this crap. And then look at my post regarding salary comparisons.

Then STFU and grow up and deal with reality, not Ozzie and Harriet.

 

[NOVA]

Sorry gramps, but reaganomics was all about deregulation....the "free market" for corporatist. TFB if you don't like it, because it's a matter of history and a matter of fact.

Read Zappa's post, it explains what Tea Party toadies had to do with this crap. And then look at my post regarding salary comparisons.

Then STFU and grow up and deal with reality, not Ozzie and Harriet.

I think your entire op is bullshit.....the difference in the wage scale is so minor , its irrelevant.

Trader Joe Wages......Avg.
Crew Member -$13.13/hr
Crew - Hourly-$12.50/hr
Part Time Crew Member - $12.04/hr
Cashier - Hourly $9.81/hr


Walmart-Arkansas- Start - Rate
Cashier Hourly Rate $7.46 - $10.69
Sales Associate $7.69 - $11.40
Pharmacy Technician $8.52 - $14.27
Retail Sales Associate $7.86 - $12.72

 

[monty1]

Beat the drum and hold the phone, the commies are invading America and taking over businesses. They just better not start paying women and blacks the same as whites. That would call for getting out the guns!

 

[NOVA]

Beat the drum and hold the phone, the commies are invading America and taking over businesses. They just better not start paying women and blacks the same as whites. That would call for getting out the guns!

Still beatin' that dead horse ?

 

[Taichiliberal]

I think your entire op is bullshit.....the difference in the wage scale is so minor , its irrelevant.

Trader Joe Wages......Avg.
Crew Member -$13.13/hr
Crew - Hourly-$12.50/hr
Part Time Crew Member - $12.04/hr
Cashier - Hourly $9.81/hr


Walmart-Arkansas- Start - Rate
Cashier Hourly Rate $7.46 - $10.69
Sales Associate $7.69 - $11.40
Pharmacy Technician $8.52 - $14.27
Retail Sales Associate $7.86 - $12.72

What's irrelevant are you attempts to LIE about what is being sourced, Bravo.

Reality check:

Walmart:

Sales Associate - 374 Walmart Stores Salaries $8.85/hr

Assistant Manager 324 Walmart Stores Salaries $44,049

Pharmacist 314 Walmart Stores Salaries $118,531

Assistant Store Manager 282 Walmart Stores Salaries $44,624

Programmer Analyst 273 Walmart Stores Salaries $66,326

Guest Service Team Member - Cashier - 251 Walmart Stores Salaries $8.49/hr


Wal Mart Cashier - Hourly 180 Walmart Stores Salaries $8.53/hr

Department Manager - Hourly 151 Walmart Stores Salaries $11.20/hr

Pharmacy Manager 142 Walmart Stores Salaries $126,140

Overnight Stocker - Hourly 133 Walmart Stores Salaries $9.64/hr
Cashier Associate - Hourly 110 Walmart Stores Salaries $8.71/hr

Associate - Hourly 107 Walmart Stores Salaries $9.23/hr

Customer Service Manager (CSM) - Hourly 100 Walmart Stores Salaries $10.29/hr

Graduate Pharmacist 93 Walmart Stores Salaries $71,267

Senior Programmer Analyst 88 Walmart Stores Salaries $73,830

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Trader Joe's

Crew Member - Hourly 148 Trader Joe's Salaries $13.17/hr

Crew - Hourly 76 Trader Joe's Salaries $12.50/hr


Part Time Crew Member - Hourly 22 Trader Joe's Salaries $12.04/hr


Crew Member 15 Trader Joe's Salaries $26,333

Sign Artist - Hourly 11 Trader Joe's Salaries $16.42/hr

Mate 8 Trader Joe's Salaries $55,238


Part-time Crew Member - Hourly 8 Trader Joe's Salaries $12.29/hr

Assistant Manager 6 Trader Joe's Salaries $69,667


Captain 6 Trader Joe's Salaries $95,667


Crew 5 Trader Joe's Salaries $28,400


Sales Associate - Hourly 4 Trader Joe's Salaries $11.76/hr


Sales Associate 4 Trader Joe's Salaries $33,500

Trader Joe's Supervisor - Hourly 4 Trader Joe's Salaries $18.70/hr

Merchant 4 Trader Joe's Salaries $70,750


Store Manager 4 Trader Joe's Salaries $109,050