Once again, the words were not “who’s to know”. The words were “I don’t know.”
Best if you quit changing them.
Apostates versus converts
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Best if you quit changing them.
I see nothing positive coming from this exchange.
Here’s the book the podcast referenced.
Altemeyer B., Hunsberger B. (1997). Amazing conversions: Why some turn to faith & others abandon religion. Prometheus.
I don’t make shit up, Nancy.
Recently, I’ve watched many podcasts where Biblical scholars are asked questions outside their areas of expertise. PhDs with entire careers in their disciplines. But, when asked a question on a matter they are not familiar with, “I don’t know” is not only acceptable, but preferable. The same goes for any discipline.
Why does that even have to be explained to you?
We’ll have to agree there. You can’t seem to grasp what those 3 words mean.
Okay, you won't drop it.
I ask my doctor what time the restaurant opens. He says, I don't know.
PROFOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I see you trying to get me put you on ignore. That would be a shame.
It looks like you need to resort to absurdity.
Do what you fucking want. I won’t notice one way or another.
bye asshole
I don't think I know anybody who was deconverted by a long soul searching process of research and reflection.
But obviously they must have found a representative population.
We are taught religion before we have critical ability to judge truth.
Once people become adults, they evaluate the religious teaching.
If you cannot see that your explanation of why you choose to identify as an atheist is laughable, THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM. It seems a great deal more likely that the reason you do choose to identify as an atheist is because you have one of two BELIEFS. Either you BELIEVE there are no gods...or you BELIEVE it is more likely that their are no gods than that there is at least one god.
It has nothing to do with any jury analogy.
Read what I wrote above again.
Bullshit. Instead you are trying to pretend there is a logical reason for not doing so.
I have written extensively on this topic for decades...perhaps from before you were even born.
Your problem is that some people accept your bullshit, where I do not.
See my first comment in this reply.
I don't know...but here you are responding to a random thought passing through my mind.
If wishes were horses, even the poor would ride.
Quite of few of them when I’m looking around for NT stuff. And, they can cite scripture like nobody’s business.
I try to stick with the academics, but some of them are also deconverts.
The book reviews seem to indicate the author focused on rare and exceptional conversion and deconversion cases, and limited the study to 18-22 year olds at Canadian universities, an impressionable age where peer pressure remains very strong
I think the usual case tends to occur for someone who is slightly religious becoming more religious, or slightly religious becoming more atheist - and for intangible reasons, rather than through tortuous soul searching. My brother was fairly ambivalent about religion, until he started regularly attending Methodist service in his 40s.
The exceptional cases undoubtedly make for more interesting reading through.
I do know that in my end of the woods, Idaho, the deconversion from Mormonism is significant. And often very difficult for many because of the strong sense of community it fosters. In small town Eastern Idaho and small town Utah, exceptionally high percentage of Mormons. Huge extended families, as well.
