Appears MAGA’s immigration armageddon has hit the point of diminishing returns

Grokmaster said:
Try specifying "ILLEGAL" in the next "poll":
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Undocumented = illegal.

Meanwhile, support for allowing undocumented immigrants to become U.S. citizens has risen to 78%, up from 70% last year. This is also back to the level of support seen in 2019 (81%) while slightly lower than in 2016 (84%). Approval is higher still, albeit statistically unchanged, for offering individuals brought to the U.S. illegally as children a pathway to citizenship, with support holding above 80%.
 
Earl said:
Poll the parents of Laken Riley and the families of hundreds of thousands of the victims’ families of other violent crimes by these illegal terrorists.
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^^^
MAGAts only care about murders committed by illegals, not the 20,000+ annual murders committed by Americans nor the 50,000 suicides.
 
archives said:
Wait a minute, you actually thought when asked the question people were responding just to legal immigration? That their responses to Trump’s handling of immigration meant just his dealings with already legalized immigrants? Their disdain for continuing the Wall was just as it relates to legal immigration?
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The question was not specific to illegal immigration. Even a five year old would know the difference. Details matter.

Now I recognize that they don’t to leftists but they do.

Don’t play coy with me
 
I would say legal immigration is good for the county. I would have said it back then too. I will say it now, said it then, will say it in the future...

And if I were in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, I willonhavewe say it in the pastnowfuture.
 
Damocles said:
I would say legal immigration is good for the county. I would have said it back then too. I will say it now, said it then, will say it in the future...

And if I were in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, I willonhavewe say it in the pastnowfuture.
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Agreed. It's why our nation needs immigration reform. Even GW recognized it 20 years ago with both a better work visa program and more enforcement of overstays.

I'd toss in locking up owners of businesses who hires, rents to or otherwise supports/entices illegal immigrants. This means they also need the tools to identify the legal from the illegal.
 
archives said:

“Surge in U.S. Concern About Immigration Has Abated”​

“WASHINGTON, D.C. — Americans have grown markedly more positive toward immigration over the past year, with the share wanting immigration reduced dropping from 55% in 2024 to 30% today. At the same time, a record-high 79% of U.S. adults say immigration is a good thing for the country.”

“The same poll finds many more Americans disapproving than approving of President Donald Trump’s handling of immigration”

“When asked if immigration is generally a good thing or bad thing for the country, a record-high 79% of U.S. adults call it a good thing; a record-low 17% see it as a bad thing.”

“Support is also lower today for deporting all undocumented immigrants, with 38% now favoring this as the administration is attempting it, down from 47% last year when it was a Trump campaign promise. Meanwhile, support for allowing undocumented immigrants to become U.S. citizens has risen to 78%“

“Perhaps because of Americans’ opposition to immigration policies that Trump has enacted to remove undocumented immigrants from the U.S., their evaluation of his work on immigration is mostly negative.”

https://news.gallup.com/poll/692522/surge-concern-immigration-abated.aspx

Trump and Murdoch will have to find another Laken Riley tragedy to pimp
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GOP members are now claiming that detaining U.S citizens is 'not a problem'.
 
Teflon Don said:
The question was not specific to illegal immigration. Even a five year old would know the difference. Details matter.

Now I recognize that they don’t to leftists but they do.

Don’t play coy with me
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“details matter? “details a matter” is rather ironic coming from a Red Hatter given they portray all immigrants as illegal

And Gallop isn’t the only one:

www.pewresearch.org

Americans Have Mixed to Negative Views of Trump Administration Immigration Actions

The public is split over local law enforcement helping deportation efforts, and majorities disapprove of suspending asylum applications.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org
www.reuters.com

Trump's approval on immigration falls to lowest level of his term, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds

Americans took a dour view of heavy-handed tactics.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
archives said:
“details matter? “details a matter” is rather ironic coming from a Red Hatter given they portray all immigrants as illegal

And Gallop isn’t the only one:

www.pewresearch.org

Americans Have Mixed to Negative Views of Trump Administration Immigration Actions

The public is split over local law enforcement helping deportation efforts, and majorities disapprove of suspending asylum applications.
www.pewresearch.org www.pewresearch.org
www.reuters.com

Trump's approval on immigration falls to lowest level of his term, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds

Americans took a dour view of heavy-handed tactics.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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Nobody portrays all immigrants as illegal. Stop lying
 
archives said:
Wrong again, as the source shows, the majority do not support Trump’s current immigration efforts nor continuing his wall
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Wrong on so many levels.

1. The source is a biased opinion, a mere wish that the majority actually wanted Trump's policy opposed
2. Trump doesn't have any immigration effort
3. Everybody except for you wants the wall
4. The majority voted for Trump to deport violent criminals and nothing indicates that that sentiment has somehow changed.
 
archives said:
Stating the facts is never inappropriate
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Here's a fact you....

America was founded as a White, Christian nation in 1776.

The "Declaration of Independence" was the work on an Englishman - a political philosopher named John Locke. Locke was one of Enlightenment most brilliant political theorists. He was also a devout, almost Puritanical Protestant. His political works were deeply rooted in his faith and in Scripture.

The original US Constitution and Bill of Rights was grounded upon the ideals and principles set down in the "Declaration."

The result was one of the most unbelievably effect systems of Government in the 6000 - year history of civilisation.

The "Republican experiment" was an exceptional success for 200 years. Tragically, America was betrayed in 1965 when LBJ opened her borders to mass coloured immigration from across the Third World.

The American Founders intended the new Republic would be a nation of White, North-Western, European people ( Or, as it is put these days, of Germanic people: English, Scottish, Irish Scandinavian, German, etc).

The "Declaration of Independence" and the "US Constitution/Bill of Rights" that it gave rise to were a product of the Western culture of these Germanic people - a culture that is rooted in Christian faith and reason (rationality)

America's potential has been crippled - and her future clouded - by the presence of increasing number of coloured/non-Christian immigration (both legal and illegal).

The mass, "multicultural" importation of legal/illegal immigrants is the deadliest , and most rapid-acting, weapon in the arsenal of the Global cultural Marxists. You saw this for yourselves during the "open-border" Biden administration.

White (Germanic people) are Westerners, by which I mean their culture is Western Culture. And Western Culture is objectively SUPERIOR to any other racial/ethnic culture. No one denies this, except modern day Marxists (of one type or another). Ideally, America should deport all of Her non-Germanic/Christian population back to their racial/ethnic/genetic homelands. But I do not this it is possible to actually do this in America today (?)


Dachshund - the Wonder Hound

DLM - DACHSHUND LIVES MATTER !!!
 
Dachshund said:
Here's a fact you....

America was founded as a White, Christian nation in 1776.

The "Declaration of Independence" was the work on an Englishman - a political philosopher named John Locke. Locke was one of Enlightenment most brilliant political theorists. He was also a devout, almost Puritanical Protestant. His political works were deeply rooted in his faith and in Scripture.

The original US Constitution and Bill of Rights was grounded upon the ideals and principles set down in the "Declaration."

The result was one of the most unbelievably effect systems of Government in the 6000 - year history of civilisation.

The "Republican experiment" was an exceptional success for 200 years. Tragically, America was betrayed in 1965 when LBJ opened her borders to mass coloured immigration from across the Third World.

The American Founders intended the new Republic would be a nation of White, North-Western, European people ( Or, as it is put these days, of Germanic people: English, Scottish, Irish Scandinavian, German, etc).

The "Declaration of Independence" and the "US Constitution/Bill of Rights" that it gave rise to were a product of the Western culture of these Germanic people - a culture that is rooted in Christian faith and reason (rationality)

America's potential has been crippled - and her future clouded - by the presence of increasing number of coloured/non-Christian immigration (both legal and illegal).

The mass, "multicultural" importation of legal/illegal immigrants is the deadliest , and most rapid-acting, weapon in the arsenal of the Global cultural Marxists. You saw this for yourselves during the "open-border" Biden administration.

White (Germanic people) are Westerners, by which I mean their culture is Western Culture. And Western Culture is objectively SUPERIOR to any other racial/ethnic culture. No one denies this, except modern day Marxists (of one type or another). Ideally, America should deport all of Her non-Germanic/Christian population back to their racial/ethnic/genetic homelands. But I do not this it is possible to actually do this in America today (?)


Dachshund - the Wonder Hound

DLM - DACHSHUND LIVES MATTER !!!
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And here’s a bigger one:

Jesus taught that the second greatest commandment is to "love your neighbor as yourself". This means treating others with the same level of care, respect, and consideration that you would want for yourself. This teaching is found in Matthew 22:39 and is considered a cornerstone of Christian ethics.

Appears you missed that one, guess you are not as Christian as you thought
 
IBDaMann said:
Wrong on so many levels.

1. The source is a biased opinion, a mere wish that the majority actually wanted Trump's policy opposed
2. Trump doesn't have any immigration effort
3. Everybody except for you wants the wall
4. The majority voted for Trump to deport violent criminals and nothing indicates that that sentiment has somehow changed.
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IBDaMann said:
Wrong on so many levels.

1. The source is a biased opinion, a mere wish that the majority actually wanted Trump's policy opposed
2. Trump doesn't have any immigration effort
3. Everybody except for you wants the wall
4. The majority voted for Trump to deport violent criminals and nothing indicates that that sentiment has somehow changed.
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Oh, I see, condemning the source without offering any proof makes it “wrong”
So every time he bloviates about how he is handling immigration he ain’t talking about immigration, got it
Proven wrong in all the studies I provided
Except nonpartisan measurements of what Americans are thinking now

Do you have any proof of anything you claim or is it true you are making it up as you go along
 
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