Taft2016
Verified User
Probably because it's a ridiculous question.
"Any means"? You mean like if each Republican member of Congress hijacked a jet fighter and lead an attack on the White House? No, I would not approve of that.
Are any Reasonable Conservatives willing...
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Probably because it's a ridiculous question.
"Any means"? You mean like if each Republican member of Congress hijacked a jet fighter and lead an attack on the White House? No, I would not approve of that.
Liberty
Libertarian Minded
I wouldn't say that. I said it wouldn't come to that. So I did answer your question.
But you are okay with shutting down the government? Putting 800,000 Americans on unpaid leave?
Liberty
Libertarian Minded
Well actually, in my opinion, the dems are responsible for that.
And I'm not losing any sleep over the gov't shut down. I heard that the golf courses were full of gov't workers this morning, so I don't think that the so called 800,000 you speak of are really upset with a paid vacation.
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They might not be reimbursed, this do nothing Congress has to approve that workers get paid.
StormX
Banned
Sure, why not. Its been done before by both sides and look we are all still here. The world did not end.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Democrats spend way too much damn time looking for 'reasonable' republicans.
Strap on some balls and take on whomever stands in your way.
That's what they do .. and don't give a rats ass about 'reasonable' democrats.
If democrats don't like what the republicans are doing, then it seems like the republicans are executing their best option right now.
Liberty
Libertarian Minded
I think they always have gotten paid for shut downs. I still worry much more about the millions of people losing their jobs, getting their hours cut, and/or losing great insurance to get thrown over to Obamacare. Just because of Obamacare.
Don't you?
I don't buy it, employers lying, I have asked you for proof which you have failed to supply.
Liberty
Libertarian Minded
As I said before, It's what I hear from conservative news. That's why I also say, "it's my opinion based on what I've heard".
If it were true, would you be OK with that? Millions of people being affected like that.
It isn't true because it hasn't gone into effect, yet, it is sleazy employers using it as an excuse.
Millions of people are signing up for healthcare and will have coverage they haven't had before.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
What Obama/Romney/Heritage Foundation/NRACare does is invite millions of Americans into an already broken system without ever addressing where its broken.
That is not reform.
Boris The Animal
It's Just Boris!
And total government takeover is?
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
Funny how so few people get that point. Changing HOW healthcare is paid for does nothing to address the rising costs of health care.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
'Total takeover of government' is the language of lemmings.
Medicare exists today. Is that total takeover of government?
Simple question.
Boris The Animal
It's Just Boris!
It is because it forces more people to depend on big daddy government to wipe their asses they should be doing themselves.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
That's true .. unless it has built in mechanisms specific to costs.
Medicare has such mechanisms and would not require a mandate, or the collapse of private insurance.
Liberty
Libertarian Minded
I guess that's possible, but even if it is, Obamacare has set everything in motion.
As for these people getting what they never have had before, that's great. But what about the people who had great healthcare provided, and 100% paid for by their employer, being thrown to the exchanges to pay for healthcare that's no where near as good as what they had. What if such people don't qualify for financial help and they're living from paycheck to paycheck. This is an extreme burden.
I could go on, and on with what I feel are true examples, but my question is "is this ok with you"?
Yes, but other parts of the Affordable Care do just that.