Are we better off with a discredited FBI?

[PostmodernProphet]

Really ? Which dumbfuck should I have been aiming at ?

obviously the "he" in the post that started this discussion......Gotcha......

 

[Teflon Don]

it's only overblown to biased fucks like yourself. I think you really don't see how far down the hole you've gone in your trump derangement syndrome.

I notice not one liberal here has been able to retort anything. That's because you can't. The corruption is plain is day, all you can do is say it doesn't matter. That's really sad.

We are at an impasse and we'll just be wasting each others time to day going back and forth. You deny reality. I can't argue with someone that can't agree to basic facts.

And no one is afraid of the trump investigation. I talk to conservatives day in day out literally no one is concerned in the slightest. Nothing there. All the corruption is with you guys.

It is interesting isn’t it.

Look at the language liberals have been using since this came out including our little friend Thingy

They haven’t claimed that EVERYTHING was done properly.

They haven’t claimed there was ZERO misconduct.

No they say things like it is “overblown” and “it besmirched a beloved institution”

I do enjoy this new found love for the FBI nd DOJ that liberals have. Remember John Ashcroft?

 

[Teflon Don]

Wow!

Alongside your avatar, it indicates you are a member of the staff of this forum.

Obviously you have no respect for the forum of which you are a staff member. I can understand that, because you have no respect for yourself.

What amazes me is that the forum is willing to tolerate you as one of its representatives.

Grind always abides

He enjoys the same free speech privileges as the rest of us. Being a mod does not strip him of that.

JPP isn’t for everyone.

 

[Teflon Don]

Yeah...you are really a class guy. No wonder someone of your caliber thinks highly of someone like Donald Trump.

Anyway...the abomination in the Oval Office is doing his best to discredit vital institutions necessary to the stability of the Republic. We citizens should be doing our best to hold him in check. We ought not to let him think of himself the way you apparently think of yourself...able to conduct himself however he wishes...and subject to "arbitrary moral standards."

The FBI is vital to the stability of the Republic? Really?

Can you point to that part of the US Constitution that authorizes a national investigative agency?

 

[Teflon Don]

Ok, let’s judge Mueller’s investigation on its merits, thus far lol.

Thus far, Mueller gets a C- for scoring a couple process crime indictments THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO with his mandate.

And I’m being generous.

The delicious irony is that, thus far, all the corruption has been exposed on the fricking investigators!

Like I said in another thread, Putin has to be laughing his ass off. And not at or because of Trump.

And let’s not forget that the only confirmed collusion with Russians to impact the election occurred with the DNC, Hillary Clinton and the FBI

That is a fact

 

[NOVA]

I'd also add that Trump's admin has a much longer list of demotions and defections from his 1st year.

I suppose that means it is corrupt, as well?

Thingy bitches incessantly about 'whataboutism' and then he resorts to it just like in this post....
.....not once in this thread, HIS thread, does he address the facts presented in
this memo....lying to a FISA judge to get permission to wire tap or start spying on a citizen is against the law.....whether the lying is direct or by omission....
that, in itself, is enough to warrant further investigation on those lying to a FISA judge.....

The fact that the dossier was a product of the DNC and Hillary and paid for by them is relevant and pertinent information that the FISA judge NEEDS to know....
It don't even matter if the dossier was used as the main reason or as a minor side reason to get FISA permission....

Hannity, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and nobody else is relevant to this......

 

[domer76]

So you think it's okay for the FBI to overturn election results? A coup by the FBI is fine by you?

Did they? Where's the coup?

 

[domer76]

Awww your coup attempt was exposed you fascist little piggy, too bad so sad.

Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

AND:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.



AND:

4) According to the head of the counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, corroboration of the Steele dossier was in its “infancy” at the time of the initial Page FISA application. After Steele was terminated, a source validation report conducted by an independent unit within FBI assessed Steele’s reporting as only minimally corroborated. Yet, in early January 2017, Director Comey briefed President-elect Trump on a summary of the Steele dossier, even though it was—according to his June 2017 testimony—“salacious and unverified.” While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.


The Obama/Clinton DOS is next.

 

[domer76]

No the FBI and DOJ are.

Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

AND:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.



AND:

4) According to the head of the counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, corroboration of the Steele dossier was in its “infancy” at the time of the initial Page FISA application. After Steele was terminated, a source validation report conducted by an independent unit within FBI assessed Steele’s reporting as only minimally corroborated. Yet, in early January 2017, Director Comey briefed President-elect Trump on a summary of the Steele dossier, even though it was—according to his June 2017 testimony—“salacious and unverified.” While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.


Jigs up scumbag.

 

[domer76]

It absolutely does:

Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

AND:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.



AND:

4) According to the head of the counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, corroboration of the Steele dossier was in its “infancy” at the time of the initial Page FISA application. After Steele was terminated, a source validation report conducted by an independent unit within FBI assessed Steele’s reporting as only minimally corroborated. Yet, in early January 2017, Director Comey briefed President-elect Trump on a summary of the Steele dossier, even though it was—according to his June 2017 testimony—“salacious and unverified.” While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Even so, you are saying that questioning our institutions is bad. Is unamerican.

I'm isolating this part - it's that much of a disconnect.

Questioning our institutions is not bad. It's what we should do.

A daily, organized onslaught of discrediting our institutions, deciding guilt based on a whisper of "evidence," and condemning them w/ the broadest brush possible, with the 24x7 cooperation of a major news network?

Sorry - that ain't cool. Please stop mischaracterizing what I'm saying. It sounds desperate.

 

[domer76]

Your deepstate coup plotters are exposed you fascist little piggy.

Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

AND:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.



AND:

4) According to the head of the counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, corroboration of the Steele dossier was in its “infancy” at the time of the initial Page FISA application. After Steele was terminated, a source validation report conducted by an independent unit within FBI assessed Steele’s reporting as only minimally corroborated. Yet, in early January 2017, Director Comey briefed President-elect Trump on a summary of the Steele dossier, even though it was—according to his June 2017 testimony—“salacious and unverified.” While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.


That's a wrap fucktard.

 

[Русский агент]

Individual investigative journalists have become targets for assassins, both character and physical. Israel has set the precedent.

Hopefully you'll be targeted soon, although they probably only go after those who are effective. Harmless poseurs like you are a waste of resources, I suppose.

 

[Русский агент]

It is interesting isn’t it.

Look at the language liberals have been using since this came out including our little friend Thingy

They haven’t claimed that EVERYTHING was done properly.

They haven’t claimed there was ZERO misconduct.

No they say things like it is “overblown” and “it besmirched a beloved institution”

I do enjoy this new found love for the FBI nd DOJ that liberals have. Remember John Ashcroft?

Did liberals concern themselves with the credibility of government agencies when they lauded the leakers of the Pentagon papers?

 

[moon]

Hopefully you'll be targeted soon, although they probably only go after those who are effective. Harmless poseurs like you are a waste of resources, I suppose.

It doesn't surprise me at all that a degenerate prosemite, such as yourself, should applaud the assassination of journalists. Do you have any other fetishes that you'd like to dump in the thread ?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I wish we had a thread about the discredited FBI instead of about Palestinian hate for Israel....

 

[domer76]

Ok, let’s judge Mueller’s investigation on its merits, thus far lol.

Thus far, Mueller gets a C- for scoring a couple process crime indictments THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO with his mandate.

And I’m being generous.

The delicious irony is that, thus far, all the corruption has been exposed on the fricking investigators!

Like I said in another thread, Putin has to be laughing his ass off. And not at or because of Trump.

Putin IS laughing his ass off. By assisting in Trump's election, he got EXACTLY what he intended.

1)Being coddled by a guy he has dirt on
2)Disruption of our institutions

Putin's useful idiot and the Trumptards delivered.

 

[Русский агент]

Tomorrow will be better.

Why? Will you shuffle off the mortal coil during the night? Discovering that'd be the best part of waking up.

 

[Русский агент]

Putin IS laughing his ass off. By assisting in Trump's election, he got EXACTLY what he intended. 1)Being coddled by a guy he has dirt on 2)Disruption of our institutions Putin's useful idiot and the Trumptards delivered.

Any evidence of the above?

Didn't think so.

 

[domer76]

3) Before and after Steele was terminated as a source, he maintained contact with DOJ via then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, a senior DOJ official who worked closely with Deputy Attorneys General Yates and later Rosenstein. Shortly after the election, the FBI began interviewing Ohr, documenting his communications with Steele. For example, in September 2016, Steele admitted to Ohr his feelings against then-candidate Trump when Steele said he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not, being president.” This clear evidence of Steele’s bias was recorded by Ohr at the time and subsequently in official FBI files— but not reflected in any of the Page FISA applications.

a) During this same time period, Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump. Ohr later provided the FBI with all of his wife’s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS. The Ohrs’ relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the FISC.


Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

AND:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.



AND:

4) According to the head of the counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, corroboration of the Steele dossier was in its “infancy” at the time of the initial Page FISA application. After Steele was terminated, a source validation report conducted by an independent unit within FBI assessed Steele’s reporting as only minimally corroborated. Yet, in early January 2017, Director Comey briefed President-elect Trump on a summary of the Steele dossier, even though it was—according to his June 2017 testimony—“salacious and unverified.” While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.


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