Are we better off with a discredited FBI?

moon2012 said:
It doesn't surprise me at all that a degenerate prosemite, such as yourself, should applaud the assassination of journalists. Do you have any other fetishes that you'd like to dump in the thread ?
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I'd be quite happy to watch "Palestinian" sympathizers die in excruciating agony. Does that count?
 
domer76 said:
Putin IS laughing his ass off. By assisting in Trump's election, he got EXACTLY what he intended.

1)Being coddled by a guy he has dirt on
2)Disruption of our institutions

Putin's useful idiot and the Trumptards delivered.
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You have evidence Putin helped Trump win or are you just making crap up again.
 
This is a very good question. Suppose the FBI is doing terrible stuff to us behind the scenes. Do we as citizens want to know about it so they can change or do we keep it quiet to preserve the institution?

If we answer that we want to keep it quiet then havent we effectively said they are above the law?
 
Darth Omar said:
You have evidence Putin helped Trump win or are you just making crap up again.
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Your particular stance prevents you from paying attention.

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tsuke said:
This is a very good question. Suppose the FBI is doing terrible stuff to us behind the scenes. Do we as citizens want to know about it so they can change or do we keep it quiet to preserve the institution?

If we answer that we want to keep it quiet then havent we effectively said they are above the law?
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But Trump hurts their feelings. They don't feel safe.
 
Thing1 said:
I'm isolating this part - it's that much of a disconnect.

Questioning our institutions is not bad. It's what we should do.

A daily, organized onslaught of discrediting our institutions, deciding guilt based on a whisper of "evidence," and condemning them w/ the broadest brush possible, with the 24x7 cooperation of a major news network?

Sorry - that ain't cool. Please stop mischaracterizing what I'm saying. It sounds desperate.
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3) Before and after Steele was terminated as a source, he maintained contact with DOJ via then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, a senior DOJ official who worked closely with Deputy Attorneys General Yates and later Rosenstein. Shortly after the election, the FBI began interviewing Ohr, documenting his communications with Steele. For example, in September 2016, Steele admitted to Ohr his feelings against then-candidate Trump when Steele said he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not, being president.” This clear evidence of Steele’s bias was recorded by Ohr at the time and subsequently in official FBI files— but not reflected in any of the Page FISA applications.

a) During this same time period, Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump. Ohr later provided the FBI with all of his wife’s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS. The Ohrs’ relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the FISC.


Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

AND:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.



AND:

4) According to the head of the counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, corroboration of the Steele dossier was in its “infancy” at the time of the initial Page FISA application. After Steele was terminated, a source validation report conducted by an independent unit within FBI assessed Steele’s reporting as only minimally corroborated. Yet, in early January 2017, Director Comey briefed President-elect Trump on a summary of the Steele dossier, even though it was—according to his June 2017 testimony—“salacious and unverified.” While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.


That's a wrap.
 
Thingy has become a full fledged supporter of a socialist authorial police state.

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Thing1 said:
I'm isolating this part - it's that much of a disconnect.

Questioning our institutions is not bad. It's what we should do.

A daily, organized onslaught of discrediting our institutions, deciding guilt based on a whisper of "evidence," and condemning them w/ the broadest brush possible, with the 24x7 cooperation of a major news network?

Sorry - that ain't cool. Please stop mischaracterizing what I'm saying. It sounds desperate.
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Just change a few words and you've got what we've been going through for the last 13 months....

A daily, organized onslaught of discrediting our institutions PRESIDENT, deciding guilt based on a whisper of "evidence," and condemning him w/ the broadest brush possible, with the 24x7 cooperation of almost all major news networks and their unsupported, anonymous, lies ?

Sorry....that ain't cool.....
 
PraiseKek said:
3) Before and after Steele was terminated as a source, he maintained contact with DOJ via then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, a senior DOJ official who worked closely with Deputy Attorneys General Yates and later Rosenstein. Shortly after the election, the FBI began interviewing Ohr, documenting his communications with Steele. For example, in September 2016, Steele admitted to Ohr his feelings against then-candidate Trump when Steele said he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not, being president.” This clear evidence of Steele’s bias was recorded by Ohr at the time and subsequently in official FBI files— but not reflected in any of the Page FISA applications.

a) During this same time period, Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump. Ohr later provided the FBI with all of his wife’s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS. The Ohrs’ relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the FISC.


Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

AND:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.



AND:

4) According to the head of the counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, corroboration of the Steele dossier was in its “infancy” at the time of the initial Page FISA application. After Steele was terminated, a source validation report conducted by an independent unit within FBI assessed Steele’s reporting as only minimally corroborated. Yet, in early January 2017, Director Comey briefed President-elect Trump on a summary of the Steele dossier, even though it was—according to his June 2017 testimony—“salacious and unverified.” While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.


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