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Whoa! I agree w/ you. One for the books.

History will record this as a strange time, when there was a mad political scramble to try to "identify" this correctly. The dude was just a friggin' loon, and what he did was as horrible as human actions get.

Don't you think it makes a difference to the Trumpeteers? Don't you think it is important that he is an Islamic terrorists so they can push their hate of all things Muslim?

I know I just classify him as a very disturbed man who killed and wounded gay people, as do you, but to Trumpsteers, it's important that Donald is right about Muslims
 
Right wing terrorism.

Poor Zappas. Labels only matter when it is a Christian or someone on the right.

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His actions were guided by lunacy. It's really not that hard to see. "Guided by jihadism" - I don't even think you understand what that means.

Yeh that's right!! I live in a Europe infested with Jihadist cunts wanting to blow shit up, but you know better than me!! :palm:

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Exactly!

And we could shut up the never ending drumbeat from the Right clamoring for some kind of "Holy War", we might be able to point out the guy was plain ol, friggen nuts!

YOU HAVE TO BE NUTS TO REGISTER AS A DEMOCRAT
 
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Let's all get real honest.
This was an act of a madman,
a homicidal maniac.
This individual had been debriefed by the F.B.I. 3 times.
Slip through the cracks much?
 
Let's all get real honest.
This was an act of a madman,
a homicidal maniac.
This individual had been debriefed by the F.B.I. 3 times.
Slip through the cracks much?

Keep telling yourself that the next time an Islamic 'madman' commits an atrocity. Here is a video of another 'madman' attempting to kill many people at Glasgow airport, he was a doctor by the way!! I fucking guarantee that you know nothing about it!!

 
Let's all get real honest.
This was an act of a madman,
a homicidal maniac.
This individual had been debriefed by the F.B.I. 3 times.
Slip through the cracks much?

YOU FORGOT THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT ATTRIBUTES:
1. MUSLIM
2. REGISTERED DEMOCRAT
 
Let's all get real honest.
This was an act of a madman,
a homicidal maniac.
This individual had been debriefed by the F.B.I. 3 times.
Slip through the cracks much?

so what's the difference between a common criminal -
and the guy who's last act before killing a bunch of people is calling 9-11 and declaring for Baghdadi?
 
What the fuck is the matter with people on the Left in the US?
I think it's to deflect how shitty his ME war policy has been. Red lines to nowhere in Syria, Destruction of Libya ( n Africa and ME), backing the wrong bunch in Egypt ( Morsi et all)
A really crappy Iran deal, and Russian reset into the region..
Not a good record at all +it's combined with the rise of Islamic jihadists mass murders .
 
I think it's to deflect how shitty his ME war policy has been. Red lines to nowhere in Syria, Destruction of Libya ( n Africa and ME), backing the wrong bunch in Egypt ( Morsi et all)
A really crappy Iran deal, and Russian reset into the region..
Not a good record at all +it's combined with the rise of Islamic jihadists mass murders .

They live in a protective PC bubble that just can't be penetrated by any kind of reality. They are seemingly more concerned about gender benders using toilets, and safe spaces than Islamic Jihadism.
 
Please. I live in NY. I am in Manhattan a couple of times a week, either by LIRR and then the NYC subway, or sometimes I drive which means the Midtown tunnel or the 59th St Bridge. All prime targets. I don't live in a bubble.

I'm just not a pussy.

I mean, Tom obviously needs someone to change his diapers he's shit his pants so many times today alone. Anatta, whatever, I have him on ignore, but he's an anti-Muslim bigot. If it's not fear driving that I can't imagine what it would be.

Are these the men who are supposed to win wars? We better change our laws and make sure if we need a draft, we start drafting women. Someone with some balls is going to have to get involved if we want to win anything.
 
They live in a protective PC bubble that just can't be penetrated by any kind of reality. They are seemingly more concerned about gender benders using toilets, and safe spaces than Islamic Jihadism.
can you say Islamic jihadism? is that currently PC?
Where can I get an updated guide to PC verboten words?
 
so what's the difference between a common criminal -
and the guy who's last act before killing a bunch of people is calling 9-11 and declaring for Baghdadi?

Not sure of relevance but;
you are comparing apples to concrete blocks.
One is lazy, prefers stealing to working but is likely quite sane.
To commit even one cold blooded murder is an act of deep depravity, total insanity.
To shoot hundreds with intent to kill is an act of complete insanity.

I am sorry but there is no way to compare them.

Note that phoning in for Allah is irrelevant in considering the individual's insanity. The reason the distinction is of utmost importance is that this thread is about cutting through the bullshit; getting to the root cause of the shooting.
Those who would ignore the mental illness aspect of mass shooters and instead target the availability of guns do so at the peril of all of us.
Stay with me, this is the point at which even very intelligent libs start shaking their heads and stop reading.

Regardless of what prompts each madman, regardless of what method of delivering death (the Alfred A. Murrah building bombing, the 9-11, The Paris bombings, Flight 105 Lockerbie etc, Sarin gas, koolaid, one had to be insane enough to deprive many other people of their lives.
Targeting guns instead of prompting a watershed change in the availability, quantity, quality and effectiveness of mental health care will only delay a gun version but have no affect whatsoever upon a bomber or poisoner or arsonist or saboteur.

As to delaying a shooting at best, no more can be hoped for. The world is full of guns. Their incidence cannot be prevented. This topic can be expounded upon but the post is long now.

The only way to cure this is through a quantum leap in mental health care.
 
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Please. I live in NY. I am in Manhattan a couple of times a week, either by LIRR and then the NYC subway, or sometimes I drive which means the Midtown tunnel or the 59th St Bridge. All prime targets. I don't live in a bubble.

I'm just not a pussy.

I mean, Tom obviously needs someone to change his diapers he's shit his pants so many times today alone. Anatta, whatever, I have him on ignore, but he's an anti-Muslim bigot. If it's not fear driving that I can't imagine what it would be.

Are these the men who are supposed to win wars? We better change our laws and make sure if we need a draft, we start drafting women. Someone with some balls is going to have to get involved if we want to win anything.
^ poster child for PC idiocy. Male bashing. Using correct terminology is now politically incorrect and one is labeled a "bigot". in short...mindlessness run amok.

and.... a really dumb feminist comment about "winning wars"..women are integral to the military - there is no needed draft.
 
Not sure of relevance but;
you are comparing apples to concrete blocks.
One is lazy, prefers stealing to working but is likely quite sane.
To commit even one cold blooded murder is an act of deep depravity, total insanity.
To shoot hundreds with intent to kill is an act of complete insanity.

I am sorry but there is no way to compare them.

Note that phoning in for Allah is irrelevant in considering the individual's insanity.
well I give you credit for actually presenting a p.o.v.
it's bogus..but a construct at least.

Look at the last part where you dismiss declaring for Baghdadi ..why would a common criminal do this?
Or would religious fervor ( misguided as it may be) make this last act before the shooting all important as motivator?
 
Please. I live in NY. I am in Manhattan a couple of times a week, either by LIRR and then the NYC subway, or sometimes I drive which means the Midtown tunnel or the 59th St Bridge. All prime targets. I don't live in a bubble.

I'm just not a pussy.

I mean, Tom obviously needs someone to change his diapers he's shit his pants so many times today alone. Anatta, whatever, I have him on ignore, but he's an anti-Muslim bigot. If it's not fear driving that I can't imagine what it would be.

Are these the men who are supposed to win wars? We better change our laws and make sure if we need a draft, we start drafting women. Someone with some balls is going to have to get involved if we want to win anything.

No comparison whatsoever between New Yorkers & Brits.

Tea & crumpets. Those guys are soft.
 
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