Litmus
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Damn, you old pervs just will NOT stay off my jock.
armed insurrection
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Damn, you old pervs just will NOT stay off my jock.
Crashk
Unite or Die
Asshatzombie said...
"Nothing here is irreversible. And we should reverse course. Get with the program grandpa, your collaboration with the international fascists, which you think will protect the value of your access road lot, has failed. We're not gonna take it anymore. The Greatest Generation, and the Baby Boomers are both out of step with freedom, bothing having been corrupted by the system, and conspiring to sell my generation into bondage. Screw you old geezers. This is now, and our fate is in our hands. Your negativity and "we can't go back" mantra only reveal you as the cynical defeatist conspirator you are. Be gone, betrayer!
And we should just flat out NOT TRADE with nations who have no concept of expressive, religious, or personal freedom, and who use prison/slave labor. And they shouldn't be allowed to artificially suppress their currency to dominate exports. All of this is a sellout job. Screw it all. Note: I still believe in international trade, but a version that eschews barbarity and inhumanity. Business should be placed in a moral context, like many other facets of life."
Wow, very well put AHZ, but take a look at what generation is most vocal about the Bush's war in Iraq, it's the Boomers. Not many college students and not many from the 28-40 age group. The generation of the 60's is still here just not as hairy as we used to be. I really hope people of your generation stand up and save this country from the global fascists. I fear that the generation between yours (18-30) and mine (45-65) is a lost cause. They are the brainwashed Reagan/Limbaugh generation and in my opinion are the enablers of the globalism and slave labor we see now. Remember the 'greed is good' generation of the mid 80's? Thats them.
As far as not trading with countries who use slave labor and that suppress democracy I agree with you 100%. This cuts out the heart of what this country is all about. If you want to hear conservatives around here scream just mention the word tariff. But its one good way of leveling the playing field of trade, it also cuts into the profits of the multi-national corporatists now in power which is why you never hear the word anymore.
As far as armed insurrection, history has proven that armed rabble can never stand up to trained troops, so the way to stop globalism IMO, is to strike and shut down commerce - world wide. If corporate power can organize globally it only makes sense that labor should organize globally. I'm no communist but Marx had it right when he wrote, "The workers have nothing to lose in this but their chains. They have the world to gain. Workers of the world unite!" or - "I consider it important, indeed urgently necessary, for intellectual workers to get together, both to protect their own economic status and, also, generally speaking, to secure their influence in the political field." -- Albert Einstein, on why he joined American Federation of Teachers
"Nothing here is irreversible. And we should reverse course. Get with the program grandpa, your collaboration with the international fascists, which you think will protect the value of your access road lot, has failed. We're not gonna take it anymore. The Greatest Generation, and the Baby Boomers are both out of step with freedom, bothing having been corrupted by the system, and conspiring to sell my generation into bondage. Screw you old geezers. This is now, and our fate is in our hands. Your negativity and "we can't go back" mantra only reveal you as the cynical defeatist conspirator you are. Be gone, betrayer!
And we should just flat out NOT TRADE with nations who have no concept of expressive, religious, or personal freedom, and who use prison/slave labor. And they shouldn't be allowed to artificially suppress their currency to dominate exports. All of this is a sellout job. Screw it all. Note: I still believe in international trade, but a version that eschews barbarity and inhumanity. Business should be placed in a moral context, like many other facets of life."
Wow, very well put AHZ, but take a look at what generation is most vocal about the Bush's war in Iraq, it's the Boomers. Not many college students and not many from the 28-40 age group. The generation of the 60's is still here just not as hairy as we used to be. I really hope people of your generation stand up and save this country from the global fascists. I fear that the generation between yours (18-30) and mine (45-65) is a lost cause. They are the brainwashed Reagan/Limbaugh generation and in my opinion are the enablers of the globalism and slave labor we see now. Remember the 'greed is good' generation of the mid 80's? Thats them.
As far as not trading with countries who use slave labor and that suppress democracy I agree with you 100%. This cuts out the heart of what this country is all about. If you want to hear conservatives around here scream just mention the word tariff. But its one good way of leveling the playing field of trade, it also cuts into the profits of the multi-national corporatists now in power which is why you never hear the word anymore.
As far as armed insurrection, history has proven that armed rabble can never stand up to trained troops, so the way to stop globalism IMO, is to strike and shut down commerce - world wide. If corporate power can organize globally it only makes sense that labor should organize globally. I'm no communist but Marx had it right when he wrote, "The workers have nothing to lose in this but their chains. They have the world to gain. Workers of the world unite!" or - "I consider it important, indeed urgently necessary, for intellectual workers to get together, both to protect their own economic status and, also, generally speaking, to secure their influence in the political field." -- Albert Einstein, on why he joined American Federation of Teachers
Litmus
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im 36, I'm certain we can rally our leaders to enact rational trade policies, but we will have to shout down our parents and be loud people. If we are strict enough about importing slave goods, it will have the defacto effect of implementing labor standards abroad, and if that's not the case, I know not making slave labor supremely profitable will have some effect.
Intellectual workers are generally the most globalist and sick minded, being completely dependant on the government plantation for livelihood.
Economic phd's are taught not to think twice about the fundamentally statist and totalitarian fiat currency/fractional reserve lending debacle.
I really think pressing our own leaders for change is the best option now, easier even than organizing world labor.
Litmus
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Litmus
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So tell me how your approach of denying the problems and being a partisan hack are a part of any solution. You're on board with plan, man, constantly holding up your nihilistic "acceptance" as some sort of positive trait. Quit denying it. Your obfuscations and ridiculousness make it obvious.
Litmus
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SO the only difference between you and me is you feel meaningful change is impossible, and have thus become cynical and envious of potentcy.
doniston
Aint I a cutie? HEH HEH
Not when you continue to act like a Jackass.
doniston
Aint I a cutie? HEH HEH
Actually, I think the difference is that you yell and scream about making the changes (but accomplishes nothing) while we think changes are necessary, but have not yet been able to accomplish them.
uscitizen
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I feel any change that will work and last has to come from the people not the government. The government will follow the peoples lead if the people will do their part. If they do not then they deserve what they get.
Litmus
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Sometimes people enact their will through government. It's called democracy. Why don't you start advocating for policies which allow a future for us workers in general and quit portraying the globalist lie as enlightenment. It's funny, your complicity in the lie is based on "they deserve what they get". Nice of you to damn future generations.
uscitizen
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We have damned ourselves asshat. the fools have damned me as well.
wake up and understand what personal responsibility really is.
Litmus
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You're not wise. it's not over, you're just on the wrong side. Selling everyone else on bad policy you know to be bad, is not heroic. You're an anti-hero.
Litmus
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No you don't do what you can. You pretend democrats aren't involved and when questioned on globalism you present it as enlightenment until someone beats the truth out of you. We can keep doing this if you want. I'm the energizer bunny.