APP - Atlas Shrugged: stupid book

so is Jamie Dimon Swamp creature or innovator?

I want someone to tell me Jamie dimon is an innovator helping humanity so I can laugh in their dumb lying libertarian face.
 
Is totalarianism through fake currency an innovation?

if you think so you don't understand innovation.
 
Damocles said:
Seriously, the only thing you have demonstrated here is that you have an opinion about subjects on which you are ignorant. You don't know the premise, the concepts, what the book says, even the players in the book. Complete ignorance. Maybe you think you are being "deep"... I'm not sure what you are doing here. I advise you to read the book before making bold arguments based on a paragraph long book report you've read.
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rich people are the victims yep.

smart.
 
martin said:
by a woman
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yes.

still a shit book that attempts make rich people the victims.

they're not all noble inventors folks.

the richest of the rich are rich from various combinations of monarchy, crony capitalism, fascism, fake money scams, corruption, lies and violence.

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inventors get fleeced and abused too, by the parasite class, the board room.
 
Lao Tse said:
rich people are the victims yep.

smart.
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Many rich people are the antagonists, takers. Reardon has to give up his patent to the actual Oligarchs.

Innovators are the victims of government theft. Government theft takes place in the book as a form of fascism where the government is choosing who wins and loses.

Someone, whose name rhymes with AssHatZombie, didn't read the book, just read some angry leftist commentary on it and got excited.

As for "global libertarians getting angry that Trump is winning"... You are just making stuff up now. Nobody is "angry", nor is there a global group of libertarians, the idea actually makes me chuckle. If libertarians were any good at building large coalitions they would win elections.
 
Damocles said:
Many rich people are the antagonists, takers. Reardon has to give up his patent to the actual Oligarchs.

Innovators are the victims of government theft. Government theft takes place in the book as a form of fascism where the government is choosing who wins and loses.

Someone didn't read the book, just read some angry leftist commentary on it and got excited.

As for "global libertarians getting angry that Trump is winning"... You are just making stuff up now. Nobody is "angry", nor is there a global group of libertarians, the idea actually makes me chuckle. If libertarians were any good at building large coalitions they would win elections.
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yes.

many rich people are the antagonists.

libertarians these days pretend that any rich person is an inventor, though most of them are parasites.

globalist libertarians are angry that trump is winning.

the big con of neocon/libertarian is that mom and pop businesses have the same legislative needs of multinational corporate conglomerates.
 
Lao Tse said:
yes.

many rich people are the antagonists.

libertarians these days pretend that any rich person is an inventor, though most of them are parasites.

globalist libertarians are angry that trump is winning.

the big con of neocon/libertarian is that mom and pop businesses have the same legislative needs of multinational corporate conglomerates.
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Yet you said they were the "victims" of the book, pretended that they were Oligarchs rather than innovators... and when it is pointed out that the Oligarchs were the bad guys you pretend that you "knew it all along"...

Your argument in this thread simply suggests you have never read the book you denigrate and base your opinion on someone's leftist footnotes. Ignorance doesn't serve you well here.
 
Damocles said:
Yet you said they were the "victims" of the book, pretended that they were Oligarchs rather than innovators... and when it is pointed out that the Oligarchs were the bad guys you pretend that you "knew it all along"...

Your argument in this thread simply suggests you have never read the book you denigrate and base your opinion on someone's leftist footnotes. Ignorance doesn't serve you well here.
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ok. on pretending about innovators,

is Jamie dimon an innovator or a parasite/oligarch?
 
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Lao Tse said:
ok. on pretending about innovators,

is Jamie dimon an innovator or a parasite/oligarch?
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Jamie Dimon was not in the book. This thread is about a work of fiction and how you hated it because "oligarchs" were the "victims"...

In this case, some idiot wrote an article about how he "mirrored" Reardon, but he didn't. Reardon wasn't a banker that took government money to prop up his bank... While some oligarchs might have a good idea now and then, being a bank propped up by the government would have put that company and its CEO right in the middle of the "takers"...

What do you think? Is Dimon an innovator, or is he a taker?
 
Damocles said:
Jamie Dimon was not in the book. This thread is about a work of fiction and how you hated it because "oligarchs" were the "victims"...

In this case, some idiot wrote an article about how he "mirrored" Reardon, but he didn't. Reardon wasn't a banker that took government money to prop up his bank... While some oligarchs might have a good idea now and then, being a bank propped up by the government would have put that company and its CEO right in the middle of the "takers"...

What do you think? Is Dimon an innovator, or is he a taker?
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confusing innovator and takers is your topic.

which is Jamie dimon?

don't pull that off topic shit on me, buddy.

that's pathetic.
 
Lao Tse said:
confusing innovator and takers is your topic.

which is Jamie dimon?

don't pull that off topic shit on me, buddy.

that's pathetic.
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Says the guy who took this off topic. I answered. Literally and directly then tried to continue the conversation by asking a question of you.

This is what I said:
In this case, some idiot wrote an article about how he "mirrored" Reardon, but he didn't. Reardon wasn't a banker that took government money to prop up his bank... While some oligarchs might have a good idea now and then, being a bank propped up by the government would have put that company and its CEO right in the middle of the "takers"...
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Which answered your question. Directly.

Then I asked:

What do you think? Is Dimon an innovator, or is he a taker?
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Damocles said:
Says the guy who took this off topic. I answered. Literally and directly then tried to continue the conversation by asking a question of you.

This is what I said:


Which answered your question. Directly.

Then I asked:
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it's not a direct answer, but whatever... you're getting there.
dimon is a taker.

so we agree.

so why are so many libertarians pretending any trust fund baby has a right to oppress an entire African nation with his gem mines, = Elon musk by the way.
 
Lao Tse said:
it's not a direct answer, but whatever... you're getting there.
dimon is a taker.

so we agree.

so why are so many libertarians pretending any trust fund baby has a right to oppress an entire African nation with his gem mines, = Elon musk by the way.
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It was direct response, since the thread is about the book I put it in that context. You now claim that there are myriad libertarians in some global cartel all speaking with one voice about how much Dimon is like Reardon....

Where are all these "libertarians" saying this? Since you want to change the topic to Jamie Dimon rather than your ignorance of the book you haven't read, please link us up to all these "libertarians" who are "so many" (How many? Was it three? One? Was there that one article you read that you attribute to "so many"?).
 
Damocles said:
It was direct response, since the thread is about the book I put it in that context. You now claim that there are myriad libertarians in some global cartel all speaking with one voice about how much Dimon is like Reardon....

Where are all these "libertarians" saying this? Since you want to change the topic to Jamie Dimon rather than your ignorance of the book you haven't read, please link us up to all these "libertarians" who are "so many" (How many? Was it three? One? Was there that one article you read that you attribute to "so many"?).
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it wasn't a direct response.


now put the principles of the book in a modern context.

most libertarians are now sold out banker shills who do equate statist fascism with innovation, it;s just globalist now.

they pretend all rich people are innovatore when they clearly are not.

this my experience with libertarians even you.

you've become a globalist banker shill.

maybe its from being a marine or whatever. of course you would be.
 
Damocles said:
It was direct response, since the thread is about the book I put it in that context. You now claim that there are myriad libertarians in some global cartel all speaking with one voice about how much Dimon is like Reardon....

Where are all these "libertarians" saying this? Since you want to change the topic to Jamie Dimon rather than your ignorance of the book you haven't read, please link us up to all these "libertarians" who are "so many" (How many? Was it three? One? Was there that one article you read that you attribute to "so many"?).
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what should the libertarian response to banker bailouts be?
 
Lao Tse said:
it wasn't a direct response.


now put the principles of the book in a modern context.

most libertarians are now sold out banker shills who do equate statist fascism with innovation, it;s just globalist now.

they pretend all rich people are innovatore when they clearly are not.

this my experience with libertarians even you.

you've become a globalist banker shill.

maybe its from being a marine or whatever. of course you would be.
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So, you have no link to "all these libertarians" saying these things is what I am hearing. They are all in your imagination. And you cannot even keep to the topic of your own thread in APP.... Thread drift isn't supposed to be a thing up in APP...
 
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