Baby killers cause Komen to cave

apple0154 said:
It's not about outside intervention. It's about living inside another person's body. It's about living in a liquid atmosphere. It's about changes in blood flow. It's about veins atrophying.
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And the baby living in the womb, is doing so by outside intervention.
 
Lefties! You have got to stop trying to say that a fetus is not a human being. You sound stupid. At the point of conception, the zygote is genetically human. It has 23 pairs of large linear nuclear chromosomes (22 pairs of autosomes and one pair of sex chromosomes). It is a living creature from that point. By denying that, you sound barbaric. I am pro-choice. I believe that up to point in gestation, a woman's right to terminate, overrides the state's interest in preserving life. The vast majority of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks, and ALMOST all occur within the first 20 weeks. Late term abortions are rare. I digress. Your refusing to acknowledge that a fetus is a growing, developing human life is every bit as insane as the righties comparing a 12 week fetus to a born child. Stop fucking doing it. It makes you look ghoulish and uncaring. Tell a woman who is 14 weeks pregnant that she is not pregnant with a baby and I will come to help pull her foot out of your ass.
 
apple0154 said:
Skin cells replicate. They are not human beings.

Ball's on your side.
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No, skin cells do not replicate. The human body replicates skin cells as old ones die. Skin cells, therefore, are not a living organism.

Once the sperm penetrates the egg, a successful fertilization produces a living human organism. The act of this organism replicating cells, makes it a living thing...organic. It is scientifically and biologically impossible for it to be inorganic and NOT a living human organism. If there is no successful fertilization, there is no organism produced and no process to abort... the cells decay and are discarded by the body. In ALL other cases, a living human organism is produced. It may only be a living human organism for a micro-second... it may be a living human organism which one day accepts the prize as oldest living human being of all time... we don't know. It doesn't matter. It will ALWAYS be a living human organism until it dies, and nothing can change that.
 
Socrtease said:
Lefties! You have got to stop trying to say that a fetus is not a human being. You sound stupid. At the point of conception, the zygote is genetically human. It has 23 pairs of large linear nuclear chromosomes (22 pairs of autosomes and one pair of sex chromosomes). It is a living creature from that point. By denying that, you sound barbaric. I am pro-choice. I believe that up to point in gestation, a woman's right to terminate, overrides the state's interest in preserving life. The vast majority of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks, and ALMOST all occur within the first 20 weeks. Late term abortions are rare. I digress. Your refusing to acknowledge that a fetus is a growing, developing human life is every bit as insane as the righties comparing a 12 week fetus to a born child. Stop fucking doing it. It makes you look ghoulish and uncaring. Tell a woman who is 14 weeks pregnant that she is not pregnant with a baby and I will come to help pull her foot out of your ass.
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As a lefty, I don't say that and neither do a lot of liberals I know. Mostly we look at it as a woman's (or a couple's) personal moral choice that others have no business sticking their noses into.

I'd appreciate if righties (not you) stopped calling women who've had abortion "murderers". If they hope to convert people over to their position, it would help to deep-six the inflammatory rhetoric.
 
christiefan915 said:
As a lefty, I don't say that and neither do a lot of liberals I know. Mostly we look at it as a woman's (or a couple's) personal moral choice that others have no business sticking their noses into.

I'd appreciate if righties (not you) stopped calling women who've had abortion "murderers". If they hope to convert people over to their position, it would help to deep-six the inflammatory rhetoric.
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What about people paying their tax dollars to fund abortions? Why should they have to pay for something they are so fundamentally opposed to? You can't really tell people it's none of their business, but they are going to pay for it anyway.

I'd appreciate it if lefties stopped calling a fetus a clump of cells, or arguing that a human life is not a human life. I think there is room for a rational and reasonable dialogue if we can ever get to the point of acknowledging what abortion is. That's why those on the right call it "murder" ...because technically speaking, it kinda is. The left wants to remain in this delusional funk... where they completely ignore biological fact and insist that a living human organism is anything BUT. Admit what the hell it is, admit what we are doing, then we can have a grown-up conversation about when it may or may not be appropriate to take the life of another human.
 
christiefan915 said:
As a lefty, I don't say that and neither do a lot of liberals I know. Mostly we look at it as a woman's (or a couple's) personal moral choice that others have no business sticking their noses into.

I'd appreciate if righties (not you) stopped calling women who've had abortion "murderers". If they hope to convert people over to their position, it would help to deep-six the inflammatory rhetoric.
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How about converting the other types of murderers?
 
Dixie said:
What about people paying their tax dollars to fund abortions? Why should they have to pay for something they are so fundamentally opposed to? You can't really tell people it's none of their business, but they are going to pay for it anyway.

I'd appreciate it if lefties stopped calling a fetus a clump of cells, or arguing that a human life is not a human life. I think there is room for a rational and reasonable dialogue if we can ever get to the point of acknowledging what abortion is. That's why those on the right call it "murder" ...because technically speaking, it kinda is. The left wants to remain in this delusional funk... where they completely ignore biological fact and insist that a living human organism is anything BUT. Admit what the hell it is, admit what we are doing, then we can have a grown-up conversation about when it may or may not be appropriate to take the life of another human.
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I understand perfectly about tax dollars going for something people are opposed to, because I'm fundamentally opposed to my tax dollars paying for wars. Unfortunately our system doesn't allow us to pick and choose.

It's also murder when our weapons kill countless innocents for the reason du jour (WMD, al-Qaeda, dictators, oil) so let's not pretty that up by calling it "collateral damage" and other terminology used to dehumanize life and justify the deaths.
 
christiefan915 said:
I understand perfectly about tax dollars going for something people are opposed to, because I'm fundamentally opposed to my tax dollars paying for wars. Unfortunately our system doesn't allow us to pick and choose.
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No, but our system does allow us to have a political voice and right to lobby for a change of policy, I recall quite a bit of that during the war, I don't recall anyone telling you to mind your own business and stay out of it.

It's also murder when our weapons kill countless innocents for the reason du jour (WMD, al-Qaeda, dictators, oil) so let's not pretty that up by calling it "collateral damage" and other terminology used to dehumanize life and justify the deaths.
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It's not often you hear a pinhead try to compare WAR with ABORTION. With the precision of modern weaponry, and the skill of the modern soldier, MOST of the people killed by our weapons are BAD PEOPLE who deserve to die. In any event, the total of all people killed, both good and bad, from Afghanistan and Iraq, pales in comparison to the number of human lives sucked into a collection jar. Each year, nearly a million abortions take place.... a million people each year, for the past 40 years. That's 10 times worse than Hitler or Pol Pot.
 
Dixie said:
What about people paying their tax dollars to fund abortions? Why should they have to pay for something they are so fundamentally opposed to? You can't really tell people it's none of their business, but they are going to pay for it anyway.

I'd appreciate it if lefties stopped calling a fetus a clump of cells, or arguing that a human life is not a human life. I think there is room for a rational and reasonable dialogue if we can ever get to the point of acknowledging what abortion is. That's why those on the right call it "murder" ...because technically speaking, it kinda is. The left wants to remain in this delusional funk... where they completely ignore biological fact and insist that a living human organism is anything BUT. Admit what the hell it is, admit what we are doing, then we can have a grown-up conversation about when it may or may not be appropriate to take the life of another human.
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Is "Onanism" murder? There are potential resources for procreation, going to waste. Is menstruation murder? All those eggs, being unused, and denying potential life to so many.
It's not viable, unless it's able to survive outside of the womb. Therefore, it is not a human being, with rights. It is a fetus, "potential human life", at a stage, when any number of things can go wrong, underdeveloped, at the whim of the incubator...the mother. And none of your business.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Yes I do.
A human being is expelled from the womb and brought into this world.
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A lot more happens that simply a fetus being expelled. Going from a liquid environment to a gaseous one. Change in blood flow direction. Atrophy of veins....Check out the changes sometime. You might learn something.
 
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