Beer Bellies Banned?

charver said:
Don't get me wrong, our government will tacitly go along with it all, don't want to rock the boat and all that. We just couldn't impliment it.

Things like executing minors or the mentally ill wouldn't be acceptable though.
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Really? It's legal in the US to execute minors? Please, pull up a document showing a single execution of a minor since that was illegalized by the supreme court (they struck it down in respect to one of our constitutional provisions), and the mentally ill aren't executed but put into mental establishments. At least we don't hold citizens in prison for 90 days.
 
Watermark said:
Really? It's legal in the US to execute minors? Please, pull up a document showing a single execution of a minor since that was illegalized by the supreme court (they struck it down in respect to one of our constitutional provisions), and the mentally ill aren't executed but put into mental establishments. At least we don't hold citizens in prison for 90 days.
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We also don't have special places in a park to speak out...
 
AnyOldIron II said:
The UK really could be falling apart, though, with the SNP being elected.

I wouldn't worry too much. 75% of Scots don't want independence, because they realise how quickly Scotland would become a third world country. The population of Scotland is tiny, a couple of million, which is dwarfed by England's.
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Luxembourg and Ireland have many times less of a population than Britian and are quite much better off than you are financially, actually. I guess you guys just think they're too liberal? Have to impose your authoritarian lack of ANY civil rights on them?
 
It is unlikely to change. Precedent is very important in SCOTUS rulings, even with the current group it would be very difficult to even get them to hear the case.
 
Watermark said:
Really? It's legal in the US to execute minors? Please, pull up a document showing a single execution of a minor since that was illegalized by the supreme court (they struck it down in respect to one of our constitutional provisions), and the mentally ill aren't executed but put into mental establishments. At least we don't hold citizens in prison for 90 days.
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If that was incorrect i apologise.

There have been cases of mentally ill chaps being bumped off though, it must be true it was on the tv.

btw - we don't have 90 days either.
 
Damocles said:
It is unlikely to change. Precedent is very important in SCOTUS rulings, even with the current group it would be very difficult to even get them to hear the case.
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I think you're right that it would be hard to get them to hear the case, but, I have no confidence that the ruling would be the same today. So, it's a pretty fickle system.
 
Watermark said:
Really? It's legal in the US to execute minors? Please, pull up a document showing a single execution of a minor since that was illegalized by the supreme court (they struck it down in respect to one of our constitutional provisions), and the mentally ill aren't executed but put into mental establishments. At least we don't hold citizens in prison for 90 days.
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We haven't executed mentally ill people here Water?
 
one of those nuts, was that it was anti-American or some BS to be looking to foreign law to guide our own.

Most of the US legal and political system is based on foreign documents / ideas...
 
Scotland is far more liberal than England in general, Darla.

In what way?

Scotland introduced the smoking ban long before England for example....
 
AnyOldIron II said:
one of those nuts, was that it was anti-American or some BS to be looking to foreign law to guide our own.

Most of the US legal and political system is based on foreign documents / ideas...
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I know, but they don't. We have this whole French thing here. All you have to do is call something French, or say, ohhh the French do that, are you trying to make this France? And you will have millions of angry rednecks on your ass screaming "why don't you move to France if you love the French so much you sissy?"

I can't explain it, you have to be here to know. It's a really weird thing.
 
Darla said:
We haven't executed mentally ill people here Water?
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Eh...

It would depend. If they were defined by the court as mentally ill they couldn't be executed. But I don't think all mentally ill people are given that option, though. Juries prefer an emotional vengeance to any perceived forgiveness in practically any case.

I'd just rather have no executions at all, like in the UK.
 
Watermark said:
Eh...

It would depend. If they were defined by the court as mentally ill they couldn't be executed. But I don't think all mentally ill people are given that option, though. Juries prefer an emotional vengeance to any perceived forgiveness in practically any case.

I'd just rather have no executions at all, like in the UK.
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Me too.
 
AnyOldIron II said:
one of those nuts, was that it was anti-American or some BS to be looking to foreign law to guide our own.

Most of the US legal and political system is based on foreign documents / ideas...
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Probably, being that practically all political philosophers were French at the time. There was Tom Locke. But he was British AND a founding father.
 
Luxembourg and Ireland have many times less of a population than Britian and are quite much better off than you are financially, actually. I guess you guys just think they're too liberal? Have to impose your authoritarian lack of ANY civil rights on them?

Much better off? Are you sure, when we have the 4th / 5th largest economy in the world?

Lack of any civil rights? We virtually invented the idea. Imagine the US Bill of Rights without the Magna Carta?

Our unwritten constitution has enshrined civil rights to the extent that the comparison between the English notion of personal freedom has been contrasted to continental tyranny since the Civil war...
 
Probably, being that practically all political philosophers were French at the time. There was Tom Locke. But he was British AND a founding father.

Yup, French and British philosophers like Rousseau, Locke and Paine....
 
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