Being An American, Obsolete Term?

1) It is merely a national symbol for a failed and morally bankrupt state.

2) It represents treason and contempt for liberty. Everyone who lived under it, and everyone who has ever flown it since, hates freedom with every fiber of their being.

3) The Confederates were all a bunch of faggots, just like the Nazis.
 
cawacko said:
Sharing that story was playing the race card? I guess I have a different definition but fair enough.

I offered my opinions on what I've observed in my experiences with different demographics I face in where I live and where I work. If you disagree with me that is your prerogative.
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Very well then, let's move on.
 
Threedee said:
1) It is merely a national symbol for a failed and morally bankrupt state.

2) It represents treason and contempt for liberty. Everyone who lived under it, and everyone who has ever flown it since, hates freedom with every fiber of their being.

3) The Confederates were all a bunch of faggots, just like the Nazis.
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Too extreme - it is rather like the way that the Scots feel nostalgia for the morally bankrupt Stuart dynasty, with its Old and Young Pretender and its attempt to go back to a stinking past. Sensible people don't connect it with politics nowadays, and eventually the Southerners will get through to the same position.
 
iolo said:
Too extreme - it is rather like the way that the Scots feel nostalgia for the morally bankrupt Stuart dynasty, with its Old and Young Pretender and its attempt to go back to a stinking past. Sensible people don't connect it with politics nowadays, and eventually the Southerners will get through to the same position.
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By the way, back then when the southerners (southrons) showed the world what they were made of, the great brunt of the British people along with the press had great sympathy for the confederate cause in America. It was your government who supported Lincoln's war on the south, not your people.

The first war for American independence was supposed to be about the freedom of self determination. For the British people and their press, the second war clearly displayed America's hypocrisy over the first.
 
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philly rabbit said:
By the way, back then when the southerners (southrons) showed the world what they were made of, the great brunt of the British people along with the press had great sympathy for the confederate cause in America. It was your government who supported Lincoln's war on the south, not your people.

The first war for American independence was supposed to be about the freedom of self determination. For the British people and their press, the second war clearly displayed America's hypocrisy over the first.
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There was an inherent contradiction between the rights of states and the rights of humans, I suppose. Many of my wife's family went over to fight slavery, and the reason so many black southerners have 'Welsh' names is the high proportion of our people serving as Union Army chaplains and preaching to liberated congregations thereafter. Obviously people will remember wars in which their people fought and died, and it is unreasonable to get cross about that. All I say is that it can't be seriously to do with current politics, because it is so double-edged.
 
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