Billionaires Are Warping Our Political System

[maineman]

clearly, you remain willfully ignorant. I have said nothing here that was knowingly false. I have not lied.

And please forgive me if I assumed your positive opinion of the Koch brothers.... I just assumed that a righty like you would believe in the same things that they believed in.

 

[Truth Detector]

clearly, you remain willfully ignorant.

This claim coming from a repugnant hyper partisan ignoramus stuck on stupid is the definition of irony.

I have said nothing here that was knowingly false. I have not lied.

Yes you did dumbass:

Originally Posted by maineman View Post
You happen to believe in the goodness and altruism of conservative donors.

The above is a lie. But again, you're too painfully stupid and dishonest to comprehend it.

And please forgive me if I assumed your positive opinion of the Koch brothers....

You didn't assume it, you made it up like the lying asshole that you are while trying to deflect away from the thread topic like the dishonest dunce you are.

I just assumed that a righty like you would believe in the same things that they believed in.

What would a lying leftist dumbass like you know about what "righty’s" think? Hell, dishonest morons like you only see and hear what they want to see and hear so that they can remain blissfully ignorant and stupid.

I am amused that morons like you think that you can fabricate strawman claims about those who disagree with your repugnant ignorance and lump them in this broad category you made up.

There is nothing "altruistic" about efforts by billionaires and companies to influence politicians, which is what a moron like you think as evidenced by your stupid claims earlier.

Like I stated earlier, but to no avail because you're and ignorant dumbass, the issue isn't with billionaires and corporations trying to influence politics, it is about the culture of corruption that pervades in Washington built on an abomination like the current tax code and a good old boy network that pays back favored sons with subsidies and tax breaks.

But since when did dishonest lying leftist assholes like you care about reality, the truth or the facts? You would prefer to remain “willfully” ignorant. You really are THAT stupid.

 

[maineman]

are you saying that you don't actually believe that the Koch brothers have altruistic motives for their giving? What do you think their motives are?

Like I said... it certainly wasn't a LIE when I said you felt their motives were altruistic.... I honestly believed that would be the case. I am surprised to hear you say that it is not.

and I have plenty of experience with righties.... my kid brother happens to be one.... we talk all the time.

 

[maineman]

and if you DON'T feel the Koch brothers have upstanding altruistic motives for attempting to influence our political system, can you point me to some of your posts denouncing the Koch brothers for their intrusion? And if there are no such posts, could you please explain why not?

 

[Truth Detector]

are you saying that you don't actually believe that the Koch brothers have altruistic motives for their giving?

Do you ever comprehend anything that you read, or do you just feel compelled to make up your own version because you are such an incredibly dishonest dunce.

I was really clear; their motives are irrelevant. Because the corrupting influence resides in Washington DC built on a tax code that is an abomination filled with preferences and special treatment and how politicians wield power and influence.

What part of this do you continue to not comprehend? Or are you, once again, just being a dishonest hyper partisan dimwit?

What do you think their motives are?

I am not concerned with speculating what their motives could possibly be; the problem isn’t the Koch brothers or other billionaire’s spending money. It resides with politicians in Washington who become corrupted by the desire to use the tax code and subsidies to consolidate their political power and re-election efforts.

Like I said... it certainly wasn't a LIE when I said you felt their motives were altruistic....

Yes it was an outright fabrication and lie in a dishonest effort to deflect and obfuscate the debate; but again, you’re too stupid to comprehend much beyond the talking points you have been spoon-fed.

I honestly believed that would be the case. I am surprised to hear you say that it is not.

You’re lying again; it was a dishonest attempt to deflect and obfuscate.

and I have plenty of experience with righties.... my kid brother happens to be one.... we talk all the time.

Anecdotal bullshit is the refuge for ignoramuses.

 

[maineman]

do you speculate about what George Soros' motives might be? Do you have any idea what they are? Do you approve of his support for liberal causes any more or less than you approve of the actions of the Koch brothers?

and when you call me fat, or insult my wife, that is NOT anecdotal?

 

[maineman]

and I understand that you don't think that billionaires on either side of the political spectrum are the problem....

why then do you persist in posting in this thread about tax code overhaul when that's not what the OP is about?

Start your own thread about tax code overhaul.

Remember back when Steve Forbes ran for the GOP presidential nomination on that idea? He certainly swayed the GOP rank and file with that argument and won the nomination handily.... oh wait... that was in an alternate universe.... my bad.

 

[Truth Detector]

do you speculate about what George Soros' motives might be?

I didn’t speculate; that is something you apparently do a lot of because you are a poorly informed and a dishonest hyper partisan leftist hack.

What part of “their motives are irrelevant“ did you have difficulty comprehending?

Do you have any idea what they are?

What part of “their motives are irrelevant“ did you have difficulty comprehending?

Do you approve of his support for liberal causes any more or less than you approve of the actions of the Koch brothers?

What part of “their motives are irrelevant“ did you have difficulty comprehending?

This thread based its premise specifically targeting Republican billionaires as trying to influence American politics which, after numerous attempts to get you to admit it because you are such a dishonest hyper partisan hack, and half a dozen posts, you finally acknowledged it as being false.

What more is there to debate?

and when you call me fat, or insult my wife, that is NOT anecdotal?

When I call you fat and insult your wife I am throwing back the smarmy stupidity you erupt with.

When I am debating something serious, I try not to use anecdotal bullshit to support claims that are dishonest and false; which is what you and Jarod do a lot.

And, when a smarmy low life lying leftist attempts to defend his stupidity with anecdotal bullshit and strawman claims, it indicates they have reached a high level of desperation and stupidity.

Usually when someone gets called out for saying false and dishonest things, they quit and move on. But not a retard like you, you go on and on and on like a broken record stuck on stupid.

 

[Truth Detector]

and I understand that you don't think that billionaires on either side of the political spectrum are the problem....
why then do you persist in posting in this thread about tax code overhaul when that's not what the OP is about?

You really are too stupid and dishonest to comprehend the “why” aren’t you shit-for-brains?

I want you to think about it, read the post again, and then get back to me when you can have an honest coherent clue. (HINT: it was in response to your moronic “altruistic” claims and explaining where the REAL problem lies)

You really have no peer when it comes to being a dishonest lying leftist hyper partisan hack.

Start your own thread about tax code overhaul.

What a painfully stupid comment. Do you work at it, or does stupidity come naturally to you? I am think it is the latter.

Remember back when Steve Forbes ran for the GOP presidential nomination on that idea? He certainly swayed the GOP rank and file with that argument and won the nomination handily.... oh wait... that was in an alternate universe.... my bad.

You really are too stupid for prime time you ignorant clueless hyper partisan leftist hack.

Once again we see a dunce desperately wanting to engage in the never ending circle of stupidity with his off topic antics for no better reason than to remove any doubt what a dishonest lying hyper partisan buffoon he is.

Yay you! And you wonder why I would rather just point at idiots like you and laugh; stunning.

 

[maineman]

your contention is that it is a corrupt government fueled by a corrupt tax code. I understand that is your contention. I understand that you think it should be glaringly obvious to every intelligent American that YOUR solution to that problem would be the PERFECT way to fix it.

I got it.

How are you doing in your efforts to sell that bottle of snake oil to the voting public? How are you doing in your efforts to sell it to the GOP primary voters?

At some point... when you realize that nobody else thinks your idea is really all that smart - or feasible.... you might want to reconsider how smart YOU are for continuing to advance it.

just sayin'

 

[NOVA]

you're too fucking stupid to even try to carry on a conversation with.

I don't lie. I say things you don't agree with but that does not make them LIES. I am not saying something I KNOW to be false as I am saying it. I am stating what I believe to be true. If you disagree, prove me wrong... don't just call me dishonest when I am NOT dishonest and pride myself in my integrity. When you call ME a liar, when I never lie, that DOES make you a liar.

" I am stating what I believe to be true.".....???

Funny how that works, huh ?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

again.... prove it. You can't.

I CAN prove that you have so little of a life that you are envious of mine and that you opine about my personal life and that of my family like some total creep....

But you are a liar, LIAR, and now matter how much you deny it; it just means that you're adding to your lies.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

LMAO; you type like a whiney little grade schooler. That is on par with your IQ.

It's probably the alcohol that he uses to escape from his fears.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

It is IRONIC that I point out that you spew shit that you just make up from your vivid imagination? How so?

Do you know what the word IRONIC even means little boy?

It means you attempting to deny that you lie, which in itself is a lie.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

again.... you don't know the meaning of many words, it seems. LYING, LIES, LIAR, being three I can think of right off the top of my head. A lie is a statement that is made knowing it is not true. You continually describe statements that you disagree with or statements that arouse your anger as being lies.... you don't know what the word even means.

You're an idiot who ONLY knows how to toss out insults from a very small list.

So you finally admit that you're a liar.

 

[maineman]

So you finally admit that you're a liar.

false.

go find one that I wrote and show me....

you can't.

but, don't let that stop you from your sick envious fantasies about my life, my house, my upholstery choices, how many wives I've had, how many my father had, how our marriages ended... all that stupid shit you obsess on because your own life is so fucking pathetic.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

false.

go find one that I wrote and show me....

you can't.

but, don't let that stop you from your sick envious fantasies about my life, my house, my upholstery choices, how many wives I've had, how many my father had, how our marriages ended... all that stupid shit you obsess on because your own life is so fucking pathetic.

Anyone with cognitive ability saw your lying and your attempts to try to hide your lies; so you can keep denying it all you want, but doing so just adds to your lies.

Since when is paying attention to what you post, an obsession?

 

[maineman]

Anyone with cognitive ability saw your lying and your attempts to try to hide your lies; so you can keep denying it all you want, but doing so just adds to your lies.

Since when is paying attention to what you post, an obsession?

did I post anything about my house? And clearly.... my family life, and the life of my parents is something you feel compelled to obsess about. As for you, I could give a fuck. If I found out you lived in India, or on the dark side of Mercury, I would be completely nonplussed.

As for my supposed lies, you are like a fucking broken record.... you keep talking about them, but you just can't ever quite get to that point where you can come up with any examples of them....

just pathetic, envious, sorry, obsessive rantings from an internet loser.

get a life. really.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

did I post anything about my house? And clearly.... my family life, and the life of my parents is something you feel compelled to obsess about. As for you, I could give a fuck. If I found out you lived in India, or on the dark side of Mercury, I would be completely nonplussed.

As for my supposed lies, you are like a fucking broken record.... you keep talking about them, but you just can't ever quite get to that point where you can come up with any examples of them....

just pathetic, envious, sorry, obsessive rantings from an internet loser.

get a life. really.

Yes you did post a lot of things about your house.
You are the one who posts waaaaaaaaaaaaay to much information, regarding your family and life; so if you want to accuse someone of anything, it should be yourself.

And they aren't "supposed" lies, they are lies and you told them.

 

[MAGA MAN]

Yes you did post a lot of things about your house.
You are the one who posts waaaaaaaaaaaaay to much information, regarding your family and life; so if you want to accuse someone of anything, it should be yourself.

And they aren't "supposed" lies, they are lies and you told them.

Remember the pictures of his "fine federalist" house in Maine? What a dump. Overgrown trees and shit coming out of the foundation, rotting windows, sagging porches and doors, a vacant dirt lot across the street. It was pathetic. I could only imagine the stench and filth inside.