Billo Discovers Black People Eat In Restaurants
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No, you clearly haven't listened to it.
The "tea" portion of the segment was totally taken out of context. The entire thing is represented as a monologue, and it is presented not as the mocking being done on racists, but as a portion of one whole.
The two segments are at least 14 minutes apart, but they were spliced together to make it appear different than it was. The very meaning of "taken out of context".
This I'd probably agree with. It doesn't change that I am pissed that I believed something presented to me that turned out to be misrepresented. I am sure that if Bill really is the Ass everybody seems to think he is that there would be plenty not taken out of context that could be used to present that case.
I was fully aware from Day one, that O'Reilly - in his mind - was trying to make some profound statement, that he thought was anti-racist. There's been no mystery to me there. I'm not questioning his intent. I'm questioning his words.
Racism can either be intentional or unintentional. Often, the unintentional varety is the most insidious. Because it reflects institutionalized bias. I'm sure that in O'Reilly's mind, what he said wasn't racist. In fact, in HIS heart his intent may have been pure. But, expressing faux shock that black people know how to order from menus, and use silverware in inappropriate is the year 2007. Just like making comments about how one might be amazed that asian-americans are capable of competently driving an automobile.
I listened, stop saying I didn't.
You even admitted the entire part about him going to a black restaurant and being "surprised" was not tongue in cheek, out of context, or anything like that. So give it a rest! He's a racist.
I didn't say that about you. Unless your name is Uscitizen or Cypress, stop projecting.
Bingo.
First, again I will say I never suggested you hadn't listened to it. Some of your statements made it clear you had a grasp on the context of the second comment that was not included in the Media Matters splice job.
Second, I am not embarrassed about thinking O'Reilly's comments were 'racist', only that I took all of them and formed a worse opinion and was mocking him for statements that were specifically taken out of context. I thought, "Wow, not only is he unintentionally racist, but stupid too." only to find out the part that made it 'stupid too' was taken so far out of context later. I was embarrassed for not 'listening' to my original instinct and finding the full context of the thing before mocking a person so that I later found myself to be acting the ass.
Ok, well, try and get over it! Once I fell on my boss and I mean I went flying through the air and straight on him. This isn't that embarrassing.
Well, I'm not so embarrassed after I put forward the facts of what I heard and 'print' a correction.
This is great. The best entertainment I've had all week. It's been a pretty crappy week. The Senate authorizing war on Iran, the war cowards coming out from under their rocks...pretty disgusting all around.
But you can count on Bill to give you a big laugh! He's coming to get ya!
O'Reilly: "f I could strangle these people and not go to hell and get executed ... I would -- but I can't."
On the September 27 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, while discussing media coverage of his recent controversial comments about race, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly asserted: "These people aren't getting away with this. I'm going to go right where they live. Every corrupt media person in this country is on notice, right now. I'm coming after you." He went on to warn: "You smear somebody and you can't back it up, you're gonna get it. ... You go after somebody's family, you go after them and smear them with defamation that you can't back up, I'm coming to your house. I'm coming to your house. You'll have a camera up your nose. OK?" Later during the program, O'Reilly stated that newspapers such as The New York Times and the New York Daily News, "ran up to Harlem and they fed black Americans bogus quotes from Media Matters." Continuing, he said, "Now, the black Americans up there, they didn't listen to The Radio Factor. They didn't know this was coming from Media Matters. ... So, the reporter ... feeds them the quote, and of course they say bad things about me." O'Reilly called these newspapers' actions "the height of racism." Apparently referring to the media who he said "ran up to Harlem and ... fed black Americans bogus quotes from Media Matters," O'Reilly added, "f I could strangle these people and not go to hell and get executed ... I would -- but I can't. ... All I can do is expose them. And I will."
After warning "corrupt media" figures that they are "on notice," O'Reilly stated: "I'm coming after you. And I don't care if it's Bill O'Reilly, [Sen.] Hillary Clinton, [Republican presidential candidates] Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, [Sen.] Barack Obama. Anybody smeared by any media from now on, I'm holding them accountable. I'm going to hunt you down. Got that?" He went on to tell listeners, "[M]y campaign to hold the corrupt media responsible is going to help your life. Because no longer will these smear merchants be allowed to get away with it, as long as I'm in the chair. As long as I'm here, I'm hunting them down. And that means everybody."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270017?f=h_latest
But you can count on Bill to give you a big laugh! He's coming to get ya!
O'Reilly: "f I could strangle these people and not go to hell and get executed ... I would -- but I can't."
On the September 27 edition of his nationally syndicated radio show, while discussing media coverage of his recent controversial comments about race, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly asserted: "These people aren't getting away with this. I'm going to go right where they live. Every corrupt media person in this country is on notice, right now. I'm coming after you." He went on to warn: "You smear somebody and you can't back it up, you're gonna get it. ... You go after somebody's family, you go after them and smear them with defamation that you can't back up, I'm coming to your house. I'm coming to your house. You'll have a camera up your nose. OK?" Later during the program, O'Reilly stated that newspapers such as The New York Times and the New York Daily News, "ran up to Harlem and they fed black Americans bogus quotes from Media Matters." Continuing, he said, "Now, the black Americans up there, they didn't listen to The Radio Factor. They didn't know this was coming from Media Matters. ... So, the reporter ... feeds them the quote, and of course they say bad things about me." O'Reilly called these newspapers' actions "the height of racism." Apparently referring to the media who he said "ran up to Harlem and ... fed black Americans bogus quotes from Media Matters," O'Reilly added, "f I could strangle these people and not go to hell and get executed ... I would -- but I can't. ... All I can do is expose them. And I will."
After warning "corrupt media" figures that they are "on notice," O'Reilly stated: "I'm coming after you. And I don't care if it's Bill O'Reilly, [Sen.] Hillary Clinton, [Republican presidential candidates] Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, [Sen.] Barack Obama. Anybody smeared by any media from now on, I'm holding them accountable. I'm going to hunt you down. Got that?" He went on to tell listeners, "[M]y campaign to hold the corrupt media responsible is going to help your life. Because no longer will these smear merchants be allowed to get away with it, as long as I'm in the chair. As long as I'm here, I'm hunting them down. And that means everybody."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270017?f=h_latest
He was probably "taken out of context" by media matters! I think he's innocent! Free Bill O' Reilly!
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Methinks you were aiming for a different thread.