Black Cyclist Arrested After Shooting White Man Who Attacked Him First in Mississippi

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Well what I nice little story about a black man using self defense against racist whites


Just one problem blacknews left out a little tidbit


WHOOPS

Patten said Butler was arrested because investigators learned that after the first altercation with three white men, he had gone to a friend’s house nearby and retrieved a firearm before riding his bike to a location that was near where the first incident took place.


So he left the scene of the life threating altercation so his life was no longer in danger, he went to a house grabbed a gun and went back to the scene.... At that point he was planning on shooting someone ......not self defense
 
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So he left the scene of the life threating altercation so his life was no longer in danger, he went to a house grabbed a gun and went back to the scene.... At that point he was planning on shooting someone ......not self defense
In most parts of the world, you would be right. There is what is called an obligation to retreat. In Stand-Your-Ground states of the USA, there is no obligation to retreat, or to stay retreated.

He had every right to be on that road, and past threats did not take away that right. The whole point of Stand-Your-Ground is to allow him to freely go where he has a right to go.

It is interesting that the alt right supports Stand-Your-Ground until a Black person uses it.
 
So according to the police, a group of white men attacked a Black man for being in a public park that whites in the area did not think Blacks should be allowed to use. The Black man got a gun for his own protection, and returned the public park, where he was attacked by another white man not directly related to the first group of white men.

This might be legal self defense anywhere in the world. If you are a victim of a crime in a certain location, you are not banned from returning to that location. To make that the law would create the perverse outcome that racists could simply attack Blacks in parks to ban them from entering the park.

The police are quite definite that the Black man was not the aggressor in either case, and that they only arrested him because they did not initially know that. The claim that returning to the area made it not self defense is not argued by the police.
 
From the article @volsrock claims says that the Black cyclist is guilty:
[Sheriff] Patten acknowledged that Butler hadn’t broken the law when he retrieved the gun, but he was arrested anyway due to conflicting witness statements and confusion as to who initiated the confrontation that resulted in the shooting.

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The sheriff stated that even though law enforcement knows now — after conducting an investigation that included the Mississippi Bureau of Investigations and the FBI — that Butler wasn’t the aggressor in either confrontation

 
From the article @volsrock claims says that the Black cyclist is guilty:


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So if me and u get into it on the street at your mailbox, u push and punch me. I LEAVE go to my house get a gun for the sole purpose of going back hoping u will still be there so I can get revenge. And you are and again approach me and I blow your head off

That's NOT self defense
 
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Patten said Butler was arrested because investigators learned that after the first altercation with three white men, he had gone to a friend’s house nearby and retrieved a firearm before riding his bike to a location that was near where the first incident took place. Patten acknowledged that Butler hadn’t broken the law when he retrieved the gun, but he was arrested anyway due to conflicting witness statements and confusion as to who initiated the confrontation that resulted in the shooting.

The sheriff stated that even though law enforcement knows now — after conducting an investigation that included the Mississippi Bureau of Investigations and the FBI — that Butler wasn’t the aggressor in either confrontation, his arrest still stands until the district attorney’s office receives the case.

 
In most parts of the world, you would be right. There is what is called an obligation to retreat. In Stand-Your-Ground states of the USA, there is no obligation to retreat, or to stay retreated.

He had every right to be on that road, and past threats did not take away that right. The whole point of Stand-Your-Ground is to allow him to freely go where he has a right to go.

It is interesting that the alt right supports Stand-Your-Ground until a Black person uses it.
He doesn't have a right to go looking for revenge, and that sounds more like what happened here. Butler left the scene of the first incident. He then armed himself and went back to that scene apparently to confront his previous attackers. That isn't "Stand-your-ground." He could have called police after the first incident and let them handle it, but he didn't.
 
I LEAVE go to my house get a gun for the sole purpose of going back hoping u will still be there so I can get revenge.
If someone is breaking into your house, in most of America, you have the right of running up to your bedroom, getting your gun, and then coming back to the livingroom.

In Stand-Your-Ground states, you even have he right to leave your house, and walk around.

More importantly, this was a second attacker. The question of you becomes how long does an attacker have to hide before he is allowed to go outside? Would he be allowed to travel again by bike in a day, a week, a year? Did he have to live the rest of his life in fear without being allowed to leave his house?

And you are and again approach me and I blow your head off
The second attacker attacked the Black man before he defended himself. Again, how long before the victim was allowed to go outside?

He doesn't have a right to go looking for revenge
Proving what was in his head is nearly impossible. We do know that he was attacked, and had the right to defend himself. Whether he wanted to be attacked is impossible to say.

I tend to believe a lot of gun owners want to be attacked. They want to be the hero. That does not make their self defense illegal.

He then armed himself and went back to that scene apparently to confront his previous attackers. That isn't "Stand-your-ground."
Actually, it is Stand-Your-Ground. He was legally allowed to be at the park. Whites should probably stop attacking him.

He could have called police after the first incident and let them handle it, but he didn't.
A lot of whites could have left it to the police to handle, but were not required to. It is amazing that you wait until the victim is Black to complain.
 


Well what I nice little story about a black man using self defense against racist whites


Just one problem blacknews left out a little tidbit


WHOOPS

Patten said Butler was arrested because investigators learned that after the first altercation with three white men, he had gone to a friend’s house nearby and retrieved a firearm before riding his bike to a location that was near where the first incident took place.


So he left the scene of the life threating altercation so his life was no longer in danger, he went to a house grabbed a gun and went back to the scene.... At that point he was planning on shooting someone ......not self defense

Racist propaganda from a site called "black news."

LOL! You are a joke, and your post is fake news.

YOU are the racist
 
According to witness statements, the individual exited a vehicle and confronted Butler. The confrontation escalated into a physical altercation, during which the subject began to assault Butler.

In response, Butler fired several shots, hitting the individual in the chest and also striking the vehicle once.

Both Butler and the gunshot victim fled the scene following the incident.

Butler was later found at his home and taken into custody.



WHOOPS...he fled the scene...there goes his self defense

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In most parts of the world, you would be right. There is what is called an obligation to retreat. In Stand-Your-Ground states of the USA, there is no obligation to retreat, or to stay retreated.

He had every right to be on that road, and past threats did not take away that right. The whole point of Stand-Your-Ground is to allow him to freely go where he has a right to go.

It is interesting that the alt right supports Stand-Your-Ground until a Black person uses it.
He became the aggressor when he got a gun and went looking for them. You cannot do that in Texas and I suspect Mississippi law is similar to ours.
 
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