Black NFL players send Goodell a memo demanding racial justice!! NFL is 70% black

cawacko said:
Oakland just went through this with the Raiders. No city loves a team more than Oakland does the raiders. Yet the city wasn't willing to give in to what mark Davis wanted. Now the team is off the Vegs.
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Oakland, San Diego and St. Louis all feel the loss of their teams. What are they going to do about it?

Since 1982, the six markets abandoned by NFL teams all regained a team eventually, always with better stadiums than the last NFL team there had and often with more public money. Houston, Cleveland, Baltimore and St. Louis built new stadiums with the help of public money after being ditched by the Oilers, Browns, Colts and Cardinals. To attract the Raiders back to Oakland in 1995, the city and county put up $200 million in bonds to help renovate the Oakland Coliseum.

“After losing their estranged NFL teams, frustrated former NFL mid-markets have systematically overpaid in stadium subsidies several times over what they had offered to pay before their breakup with the fickle and footloose NFL cartel,” Vanderbilt University sports economist John Vrooman wrote in an e-mail.

After 21 years without an NFL team in Los Angeles, the return of the Rams worked out differently —*with a $2.6 billion new stadium plan that will be privately financed and shared by the Rams and Chargers. Both teams left for this lucrative new venue after failing to get acceptable, publicly subsidized upgrades in their old markets.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...es-san-diego-st-louis-rams-chargers/99701878/

What I'm suggesting to you is that there is obviously something missing in the analysis that is not quantified.
 
cawacko said:
Cities/states can chose to spending their tax money as they see fit.

The bolded above is from my post. I'm not telling people what to do.
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What I'm demonstrating to you is that there is quite obviously something missing from your analysis.

Something more than just dollars and cents.
 
blackascoal said:
Oakland, San Diego and St. Louis all feel the loss of their teams. What are they going to do about it?

Since 1982, the six markets abandoned by NFL teams all regained a team eventually, always with better stadiums than the last NFL team there had and often with more public money. Houston, Cleveland, Baltimore and St. Louis built new stadiums with the help of public money after being ditched by the Oilers, Browns, Colts and Cardinals. To attract the Raiders back to Oakland in 1995, the city and county put up $200 million in bonds to help renovate the Oakland Coliseum.

“After losing their estranged NFL teams, frustrated former NFL mid-markets have systematically overpaid in stadium subsidies several times over what they had offered to pay before their breakup with the fickle and footloose NFL cartel,” Vanderbilt University sports economist John Vrooman wrote in an e-mail.

After 21 years without an NFL team in Los Angeles, the return of the Rams worked out differently —*with a $2.6 billion new stadium plan that will be privately financed and shared by the Rams and Chargers. Both teams left for this lucrative new venue after failing to get acceptable, publicly subsidized upgrades in their old markets.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...es-san-diego-st-louis-rams-chargers/99701878/

What I'm suggesting to you is that there is obviously something missing in the analysis that is not quantified.
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Hey I get the argument about why cities want sports teams. It's the same reason I supported public subsidies previously. My argument today is cities can still want sports teams but force teams to pay for the stadiums.
 
cawacko said:
Hey I get the argument about why cities want sports teams. It's the same reason I supported public subsidies previously. My argument today is cities can still want sports teams but force teams to pay for the stadiums.
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I agree with that argument, though not possible in current American capitalist society where the only loyalty is to the dollar .. where owners hold all the cards.

One city won't agree to the owners demands, another will.
 
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Megan Rapinoe of the US Women's National Team kneels during the National Anthem before a September 15, 2016, match against Thailand in Columbus, Ohio.
 
blackascoal said:
Irrespective of what you think or how sound your arguments may or may not be, in the case of the Atlanta stadium, you are arguing against what the taxpayers of Atlanta have already decided.

Atlantans are loving it regardless of what you or I think.

Obviously there is some emotional / spiritual / community benefit to this that is not quantified in your analysis.
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The price list you posted earlier is the exception...not the rule. Are those prices going to hold for several years? I also wonder what the ticket prices are. In most other markets, after the taxpayer foots the bill for the stadium, the ticket prices are outrageous, as well as the food/drink prices.
 
Teflon Don said:
That has nothing to do with the anthem which was your point. Feel free to move the goalpost however, we are after all talking about football
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It has everything to do with the anthem. This country is a disgrace in many aspects. The anthem represents our policies and our society. But nuance isn't your strong suit.
 
Althea said:
It has everything to do with the anthem. This country is a disgrace in many aspects. The anthem represents our policies and our society. But nuance isn't your strong suit.
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Only to America haters like you, but to many it is much more than that.

But hey, let good ole Colin and his boys keep denigrating it. I am sure it will work out really well for them
 
blackascoal said:
You're more intelligent than I am. :rofl2: I can't read or write? :palm:

You are a moron. A racist piece of shit moron with a miserable fucking life that you demonstrate on this board every single day.

But it's all good because besides being a moron, you're also powerless. Just a moron with a keyboard. Too dumb to matter.

Your fear of everything you cannot control is indicative of the pain in all you racist morons. :0) I love it.

Here's something else you cannot control Jethro .. the browning of America. :shock: Nothing you can do about that either.

Don't like black people? Who gives a fuck?

Don't think I can read or write? Who gives a fuck about what a racist blip on my screen thinks about?

Don't like black athletes and real sports .. the WWE awaits you.

All you have to offer are the wailings of a shrinking dying breed of racist morons. :0)

Demonstrate the courage of your convictions and walk right up to a black football player and tell him how dumb you think he is. I'll read about you.
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I don't think anyone would confuse BAC with a happy person.
 
Althea said:
The price list you posted earlier is the exception...not the rule. Are those prices going to hold for several years? I also wonder what the ticket prices are. In most other markets, after the taxpayer foots the bill for the stadium, the ticket prices are outrageous, as well as the food/drink prices.
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Good questions.

Falcons to offer lowest concession prices in major team sports in 2017

Atlanta Falcons fans might encounter sticker shock when they attend their first game in Mercedes-Benz Stadium next year. That's because the team announced Monday that it will offer what will amount to the lowest concession prices at the major-sports-team level.

A bottomless soda, which will come with free and unlimited refills, will cost $2 -- the same cost as a bottle of water, popcorn and a pretzel. A slice of pizza, peanuts and fries will be $3 each, while a cheeseburger will cost $5. A chicken tenders basket will cost $6.

"We'll be able to feed a family of four at our games for $27," said Steve Cannon, CEO of the AMB Group, the family of businesses owned by Arthur Blank that includes the Falcons, Atlanta United and the new stadium that will open in 2017. "That's 60 to 70 percent cheaper than our competitors."

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Unlike most teams, selling concession rights in exchange for guaranteed cash, Blank -- who had often talked about making concession prices match those offered to patrons at Augusta National for the Masters -- didn't make that deal. Instead, his company forged an operator relationship with Levy Restaurants that comes with a flat management fee. That allowed the team creativity to make the drastic change.

Cannon said the stadium will have premium food items as well, as deals are currently being negotiated with Atlanta's top chefs and restaurateurs. He said that those prices also will match what the items cost in the outside world without additional markup.

The prices will be the same for concerts and other events in the stadium, including the 2018 College Football Playoff Title Game and the 2020 Final Four.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...s-major-team-sports-new-mercedes-benz-stadium

Management says they are committed to keeping concession prices low, and they know how to do it.

Atlanta Falcons tickets among the most affordable in the NFL
https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta...alcons-tickets-among-the-most-affordable.html

No Single-Game Tickets At Falcons Stadium
Focus is on value in personal seat licenses for Mercedes-Benz Stadium, plan SRO options
http://www.venuestoday.com/news/detail/no-single-game-tickets-at-falcons-stadium

Arthur Blank is considered one of the best owners in the NFL.

Is Arthur Blank the Only Good Owner in the NFL?
The Atlanta Falcons’ new stadium is going to be beautiful. And if all goes to plan, it’s also going to help a depressed community that’s heard big talk before.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/is-arthur-blank-the-only-good-owner-in-the-nfl
 
Althea said:
It has everything to do with the anthem. This country is a disgrace in many aspects. The anthem represents our policies and our society. But nuance isn't your strong suit.
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The most disgraceful thing about america is the ubiquitous and brazen racism of affirmative action. And YOU support that. You think white men should be denied jobs and scholarships because of their race.!!!
 
blackascoal said:
Falcons to offer lowest concession prices in major team sports in 2017

A bottomless soda, which will come with free and unlimited refills, will cost $2 -- the same cost as a bottle of water, popcorn and a pretzel. A slice of pizza, peanuts and fries will be $3 each, while a cheeseburger will cost $5. A chicken tenders basket will cost $6.
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My gawd. $5 for a cheeseburger and that's a LOW price??? Now i see how the players get $20 million a year for a job of no social value.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
She's flatchested and has a man's face. Something wrong with you?
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See that blue on her shoulder?

It's called a sports bra, which tends to make one look flat-chested.

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If you think she has a man's face, my question is what is wrong with you?

Back to my original question about republicans and women who don't need you.
 
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