Blackburn: "Can you provide a definition for the word 'woman'?"

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christiefan915 said:
Rebecca M. Jordan-Young (born 1963),[SUP][1][/SUP] is an American feminist scientist and gender studies scholar.[SUP][2][/SUP] Her research focuses on social medical science, sex, gender, sexuality, and epidemiology.[SUP][3][/SUP] She is an Associate Professor of Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies at Barnard College.[SUP][2][/SUP]
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Hmmmm. Ummmmm, what part of that says she is a medical Doctor? Take the time to look up her degrees and qualifications. I did. Just a bunch of fluff. The kind democrats always fall for.
 
christiefan915 said:
Jackson: "I'm not a biologist." Too bad the Jackson-hating RWs think they are.

"[Rebecca]Jordan-Young, [a scientist and gender studies scholar at Barnard College whose work explores the relationships between science and the social hierarchies of gender and sexuality].said she sees Jackson's answer, particularly the second half, reflecting the necessity of nuance. While traditional notions of sex and gender suggest a simple binary – if you are born with a penis, you are male and identify as a man and if you are born with a vagina, you are female and identify as a woman – the reality, gender experts say, is more complex.

"There isn't one single 'biological' answer to the definition of a woman. There's not even a singular biological answer to the question of 'what is a female,'" Jordan-Young said.

There are at least six different biological markers of “sex” in the body: genitals, chromosomes, gonads, internal reproductive structures, hormone ratios and secondary sex characteristics. None of the six is strictly dichotomous, Jordan-Young said, and the different markers don’t always align.

Sarah Richardson, a Harvard scholar, historian and philosopher of biology who focuses on the sciences of sex and gender and their policy dimensions, said Jackson's answer accurately reflects legal practice. While U.S. law remains an unsettled arena for the conceptualization and definition of sex, it frequently grounds sex categorization in biological evidence and reasoning. But like Jordan-Young, Richardson emphasized that biology does not offer a simple or singular answer to the question of what defines a woman.

"As is so often the case, science cannot settle what are really social questions," she said. "In any particular case of sex categorization, whether in law or in science, it is necessary to build a definition of sex particular to context."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...theres-no-simple-answer/ar-AAVsjzf?li=BBnb7Kz
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If you have a vagina, you're a woman.
 
Sailor said:
Hmmmm. Ummmmm, what part of that says she is a medical Doctor? Take the time to look up her degrees and qualifications. I did. Just a bunch of fluff. The kind democrats always fall for.
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Only a medical doctor knows the different biological markers of gender?
 
evince said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphroditus

In Greek mythology, Hermaphroditus or Hermaphroditos (/hərˌmæfrəˈdaɪtəs/ (audio speaker iconlisten); Ancient Greek: Ἑρμαφρόδιτος, romanized: Hermaphróditos, [hermapʰróditos]) was a child of Aphrodite and Hermes. According to Ovid, he was born a remarkably handsome boy whom the naiad Salmacis attempted to rape and prayed to be united with forever. A god, in answer to her prayer, merged their two forms into one and transformed him into a hermaphrodite, he being considered the origin of the name.[1] Their name is compounded of his parents' names, Hermes and Aphrodite.[2] He was one of the Erotes.

The knowledge has been around awhile you uneducated fools
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Here's one real-life example.

The Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine points out that one of the first modern cases came from the 1936 Olympics, hosted by Adolf Hitler. An American named Stella Walsh, commonly called “Stella the Fella”, crushed the competition. She always changed by herself and had muscle tissue and facial features that resembled a man. The Olympic committee did an examination during which the members found that Stella was, in fact, both male and female. Sort of. She had ambiguous genitalia and it was impossible to determine her biological sex. This remained a secret until Stella’s death in 1980 when “she was shot and killed in the cross-fire of an armed bank robbery in Los Angeles”.

Here's a link with her story. https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/69911/how-olympic-sprinter-stella-walsh-nearly-lost-her-medals-because-her-autopsy
 
evince said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex_people_in_history


Ambiguous genitalia in history


Learn about the world before you pretend you know about things


You will look less stupid
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How many people are born born hermaphrodites, deshy? Do you know? I do.

I used to look look at this "woman" every day after day after school. Had a nice-shaped bottom. Tall, Blonde, tight blue jeans. My black friend laughed and said "Hey, that's a morphadite!" It had a girlfriend and everything.

It had the booty of a woman, though. I never tried to mess with it. Looked okay from where I stood.

How many are born hermaphrodites, deshy?
 
christiefan915 said:
Agreed that a vagina is one of the six different biological markers of sex, but not the only one.
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This is a definite marker........

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A karyotype is an individual's collection of chromosomes.

"Today, we have genetics and DNA that allows us to examine karyotype. We know, without question, that humans are not just born male and female. There are at least six biological sexes that can result in fairly normal lifespans. (There are actually many more than six but they result in spontaneous abortion as the body knows the fetus won’t be viable so it is flushed out of the system in a natural process meant to minimize the amount of nutrients and metabolism devoted to growing non-viable offspring.")

The Six Most Common Karyotypes

The six biological karyotype sexes that do not result in death to the fetus are:


  • X – Roughly 1 in 2,000 to 1 in 5,000 people (Turner’s )
  • XX – Most common form of female
  • XXY – Roughly 1 in 500 to 1 in 1,000 people (Klinefelter)
  • XY – Most common form of male
  • XYY – Roughly 1 out of 1,000 people
  • XXXY – Roughly 1 in 18,000 to 1 in 50,000 births

When you consider that there are 7,000,000,000 alive on the planet, there are almost assuredly tens of millions of people who are not male or female. Many times, these people are unaware of their true sex. It’s interesting to note that everyone assumes that they, personally, are XY or XX. One study in Great Britain showed that 97 out of 100 people who were XYY had no idea. They thought they were a traditional male and had few signs otherwise. Even today, we irrationally, and rather stupidly, think of someone as a “man” if they look masculine and as a “woman” if the look feminine. It’s entirely arbitrary and can lead to some significant misunderstandings of how the world actually works.

https://www.joshuakennon.com/the-six-common-biological-sexes-in-humans/
 
christiefan915 said:
Jackson: "I'm not a biologist." Too bad the Jackson-hating RWs think they are.

"[Rebecca]Jordan-Young, [a scientist and gender studies scholar at Barnard College whose work explores the relationships between science and the social hierarchies of gender and sexuality].said she sees Jackson's answer, particularly the second half, reflecting the necessity of nuance. While traditional notions of sex and gender suggest a simple binary – if you are born with a penis, you are male and identify as a man and if you are born with a vagina, you are female and identify as a woman – the reality, gender experts say, is more complex.

"There isn't one single 'biological' answer to the definition of a woman. There's not even a singular biological answer to the question of 'what is a female,'" Jordan-Young said.

There are at least six different biological markers of “sex” in the body: genitals, chromosomes, gonads, internal reproductive structures, hormone ratios and secondary sex characteristics. None of the six is strictly dichotomous, Jordan-Young said, and the different markers don’t always align.

Sarah Richardson, a Harvard scholar, historian and philosopher of biology who focuses on the sciences of sex and gender and their policy dimensions, said Jackson's answer accurately reflects legal practice. While U.S. law remains an unsettled arena for the conceptualization and definition of sex, it frequently grounds sex categorization in biological evidence and reasoning. But like Jordan-Young, Richardson emphasized that biology does not offer a simple or singular answer to the question of what defines a woman.

"As is so often the case, science cannot settle what are really social questions," she said. "In any particular case of sex categorization, whether in law or in science, it is necessary to build a definition of sex particular to context."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...theres-no-simple-answer/ar-AAVsjzf?li=BBnb7Kz
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So she's not the first black woman to be nominated to SCOTUS, then, huh.


I'm not a veterinarian but I can sure as fuck tell you what a dog is.
 
Lionfish said:
Hell, I'm even a biologist but I am enjoying the alt lefties here tell us about all the various gender choices given to us at birth.
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I suppose you meant "I'm not even a biologist..." but even us unscientific types can learn about karyotypes and biological markers without making it political.
 
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